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[Courtnehh]

We frequently play perilous games with a level 1 or 2, you can do so much work at level 8 as an archer. All the DPS comes at level 6, they clearly don't have a clue.

[Eyecon74]

I tend to kick people who go down 3 times in zone 1, regardless of level.  If you can't hang in there on the first zone then you're a risk to the success of the mission in later areas.. If I go down twice in first few zones due to stupid mistakes I tend to leave game to pre-empt the kick which I would by that time deserve!

 

But always give players a chance, I would expect the same from them, I have seen level 1's burning through zones like they were level 20's, also seen lvl 20's failing in a fight with a Nug..

[BreakJohn]

i rarely try to kick people even if im carrying hardcore and we wipe because i couldn't handle perilous i still won't kick. just seems so heartless. the only exception is if you have the whole team waiting on the flag for several minutes and didn't get on the mic to tell the rest of us to wait a bit. 

[kaileena_sands]

I never kick people cause I assume (no banner/portrait, low level) they are bad, I only kick if they are asleep on the keyboard in the lobby. Waaaake up people!

 

The other day I was with Isabela and some no banner/portrait archer joined (on threatening) but he was high level. I guess he was testing threatening. Then an armed to the teeth arcane warrior comes in and immediately places a kick on said archer. Guess who got kicked instead. Come on dude, you're on an AW, why do you kick the nice newbies!

[coldsteelblue]

I have noticed that the DAIMP crowd are a lt more kick happy than the ME3MP crowd 2 stories here:

 

Back in December I dropped into a routine match that held a rogue & a mage, I drop in with my ele & then a 4th person drops in with another mage AW I think, anyway, the first 2 guys vote to kick me I start to wonder why & realise that there's no warrior in the group, as soon as I change to Lego the kicks vanish, why one of them didn't send me a message is beyond me.

 

Much more recently I dropped into a match with my virtuoso I was lv19 & it was routine as I only needed 200xp to level up, so I thought, meh, just do it here, another virtuoso drops in, lv5 and as soon as he appears I get 2 kick votes, my guess, they didn't want any frame rate problems, but once again, would it kill you to send a message to someone if you want them to change class?

 

As for my personal policy on kicking I'm always the last one to vote & only if, they don't want to plant the flag, they've been sitting in the lobby with the group for longer than it takes to make a roast dinner, or they run off & do their own thing and ignore the group...those people should just solo it.

[Cryos_Feron]

I get kicked alot when running my archer in Perilous before I even get the chance to show i can stay alive and put out more DPS that the others in the team. At least give someone the courtesy of a match to see how they play. IDK about others but I can handle myself as a lvl 8 Archer in a group...especially when they are lvl 20s (please promote and get better stats too while you are at it).

Morale: don't kick unless you see them play (at least)  

 

Archers draw a lot of aggro.

 

Have you considered playing as Hunter ?  They don't get kicked so easily.

 

Probably you have - I am just saying.

[Drasca]

why one of them didn't send me a message is beyond me.

 

They can't without a microphone (unless consoles are different). Not that pugs make sense.

 

 

The other day I was with Isabela and some no banner/portrait archer joined (on threatening) but he was high level. I guess he was testing threatening. Then an armed to the teeth arcane warrior

 

I would kick the AW too... AW suck now!  

 

 

Have you considered playing as Hunter ?  They don't get kicked so easily.

 

I kick Hunters more than Archers for good reason. Hunters are underpowered. While Archers aren't quite as powerful as before, they're still ridiculously more powerful than Hunters are.

 

The biggest reason to kick though, is the pug doesn't listen. If they can't or won't communicate (F2/F4 is the simplest means of yes/no if no mic), they're not worth keeping around, because they'll just make the match harder than easier.

 

So if I try to communicate to the Hunter in lobby to switch, and they aren't willing to, they need to go. Same if there's another need. i.e. we need a rogue to switch to mage when there's three rogues and a warrior around. An, Elementalist to bring fire wall + firemine and firestorm if hunting frost dragons. A Keeper to avoid casting chain lightning and getting himself killed... etc.

[P51Mus7ang]

I personally haven't played this level yet so I am assuming it would be something like gold or platinum in ME. Having said that I believe the majority of us play to win, win meaning complete the mission, score never mattered that much to me, how we worked together did.

 

ME/MP is the first online game I played, we did a survey on the forum and I believe I was the oldest gamer so I am not quite as fast with some of the kits but I am a very good team player and I am learning now what kits work for me, abilities and doing a heck of a lot of reading and asking questions.

 

Generally speaking I played mainly with friends, if we needed a 4th we would being in a random, some were very good players however most were not ready for the level we were running, we would carry them as needed our only request is to stay by one of us so we didn't have to run across the map to revive you.

 

Bioware has somewhat forced this issue of sticking together in DA and I like that, it's IMHO how an effective team runs and gets through the battle. I have started playing with the same few guys I found in random and we quite often run in pairs, it seems to be very effective the exception being the final wave, depending on the enemy we generally stick together and have each others back.

 

So at the end of the day what you are experiencing is pretty generic in my experience even though you are probably an amazing archer, many will not give you the chance to prove it, I guess the simply answer from where I sit is find at least one friend to run with, as I said I haven't played this level but IMHO a mic is critical at higher levels for communication.

 

Stick with it, it's their loss and keep fighting the battles:)

 

Have a great day!

 

Andy

[Cryos_Feron]

They can't without a microphone (unless consoles are different). Not that pugs make sense.

 

 

 

I would kick the AW too... AW suck now!

 

 

 

I kick Hunters more than Archers for good reason. Hunters are underpowered. While Archers aren't quite as powerful as before, they're still ridiculously more powerful than Hunters are.

 

The biggest reason to kick though, is the pug doesn't listen. If they can't or won't communicate (F2/F4 is the simplest means of yes/no if no mic), they're not worth keeping around, because they'll just make the match harder than easier.

 

So if I try to communicate to the Hunter in lobby to switch, and they aren't willing to, they need to go. Same if there's another need. i.e. we need a rogue to switch to mage when there's three rogues and a warrior around. An, Elementalist to bring fire wall + firemine and firestorm if hunting frost dragons. A Keeper to avoid casting chain lightning and getting himself killed... etc.

 

I am so glad I haven't played with you yet.

 

I know, you wouldn't want me, neither.

 

So it is a win/win

[Dekibra]

I am so glad I haven't played with you yet.

 

I know, you wouldn't want me, neither.

 

So it is a win/win

 

probably due to region lock when pugging

[Hellsteeth30]

There's often THAT guy in lobbies who thinks he knows better.

They get BANE until they leave.

Bane game stats: 23 rage quits.

Dandy English Swashbuckler: 15 rage quits 6 personal kicks.

Overcharged brodude gamer: no score yet COMING SOON

I really am an obnoxious cretin......oh well, DEAL WITH IT®

[Drasca]

There's often THAT guy in lobbies who thinks he knows better.

They get BANE until they leave.

 

But I do! (and have proof --- mostly in the form of explosions)

 

Seriously though, soundboard? Capture and share a  funny video of what you do.

[ParthianShotX]

Yes, but a level 8 in Perilous. That person is either

1: Ballsy and/or stupid

or 2: Knows what they are doing

 

 

If I were in a lobby and didn't know you, I'd probably pick 1 as the most likely reason every time (mostly because it's usually 1).  That said, I have only ever kicked for not readying up in an incredibly long period of time or not planting flag.

[Hellsteeth30]

But I do! (and have proof --- mostly in the form of explosions)

Seriously though, soundboard? Capture and share a funny video of what you do.

Hopefully, once I get back from Hong Kong later in the year I'll get an upgrade. With recording facilities. I'm basically phone and tablet guy for the moment.

The Bane voice is not good. I need to make a personal phone call to Tom Hardy to see how he did it.

The voice thing is mainly a personal morale issue. PUGs get me angry, I could yell at the witless simpletons but that could lead to a stroke. So I troll instead.

[Shevy]

So if I try to communicate to the Hunter in lobby to switch, and they aren't willing to, they need to go. Same if there's another need. i.e. we need a rogue to switch to mage when there's three rogues and a warrior around. An, Elementalist to bring fire wall + firemine and firestorm if hunting frost dragons. A Keeper to avoid casting chain lightning and getting himself killed... etc.

With a 3 rogues, 1 warrior setup that needs a mage you are free to change to one of your mages too. But I guess you won't because you want to play with the class you for whatever reason favour at the moment - just like the other player. So, by your scale you have to be kicked too. Judging from your arrogant behaviour on here I think you want everyone who plays with you to adjust to your needs and playstyle.

 

Good thing I'll never have the "luck" to play with you.

 

OT: I only kick players that are afk, anti-team player (rushing through the zone, leaving everyone behind and teleport people out of treasure rooms) or abusing zone 5 flag on purpose because "trollolol!!!111". I've never and won't ever kick someone for dying too often or just being low level. For the most time there are ways to compensate such things - if necessary.

[Drasca]

With a 3 rogues, 1 warrior setup that needs a mage you are free to change to one of your mages too.

 

Guess who usually plays warrior in that example. Hint, I'm not one of the three rogues I'm asking to change to mage.

 

There are very obvious reasons people die: It usually involves them ignoring all communication, and being a generally terrible player (both team-wise and individually) out in the open. If they're not willing to be better, they're booted. You would assuredly get the boot if you ignore all communication attempts.

 

Leaving everyone behind is no big deal if they actually survived and killed things faster. In my games, the low levels pick up loot, while the clearers do their best to kill steal from each other in friendly competition (really just clearing faster as a team). Dying happens, and that's not the problem in and of itself, but what happens before and after matters. Not cooperating in a cooperative MP game, that's what you get kicked for.

[Kungsarme]

The Bane voice is not good. I need to make a personal phone call to Tom Hardy to see how he did it.

Speak into an empty coffee mug while doing it, with a little practice you can get it perfect.

[Kungsarme]

My favorite came the other day. I hopped in a perilous as my 14 alchemist. I saw they had a rogue but no mage, so I switch to my 17 elementalist. Leader gets on the mic and says "sorry dude, you really need to be 20 to run this." Followed by red skulls. Before the lobby gave me the boot they were treated to some heartfelt raucous laughter. I even had my elementalist banner and pathfinder title up. Good times.

[Beerfish]

To the op, May I ask just how the rest of the group knows you are a great level 8 archer as opposed to the last 20 horrible level 8 archers that face planted on wave one?

[DrKilledbyDeath]

Back when I was playing this game hardcore I would join rooms until I got one in progress.  Even better if they're using mics and I can hear where they are in the run.  I've never been kicked joining late.  They don't even look at your level and I can join on wave 5 and get an instant 7 levels.

You know my secret. They never check levels once it has started. I always worry when I bring my level 1 AW in and I stand back using my staff all game not gaining barrier, but I have yet to be discovered and kicked.

[CMDR FACE]

If you're not going to communicate, at least know how to follow.  Had a reaver in our group last night.  No heal on kill items.  Kept running off on his own away from our bard.  Maybe that works on threatening (it doesn't) but you don;t belong on perilous.  Constantly dying and mashing "over here" doesn't help your cause either.

 

We also booted a guy who wasn't using a mic and wasn't great working with the team.  We get to the dragon gong and he just mashes "over here".  I don't mind using my dragon call and my group rotates...but this guy kept running off, not helping, not communicating, kept dying, etc.  So I used my dragon call.  We went through stage 4...booted him.

 

Booted another guy who was playing an elementalist.  Didn't use Meteors.  Only used barrier on himself.  Always ran away to keep himself alive.  We wiped and booted.  He messaged me asking why.  I explained that he was the worst elementalist I've seen (barrier, fire mine, fade step, fade cloak).  His response, "but I was the last alive".  

[Robbiesan]

I've been kicked on Routine for being a lvl 1 before - some people are very strange

 

 

I confess... it was me under an alt account.  I was player ApocOwlyPengFettDrascula-scrummage.  I thought "hey, it's Altboulio.   hehe, he'll geta  kick outta this."  well, it was funny to me.

[Innarra]

My favorite came the other day. I hopped in a perilous as my 14 alchemist. I saw they had a rogue but no mage, so I switch to my 17 elementalist. Leader gets on the mic and says "sorry dude, you really need to be 20 to run this." Followed by red skulls. Before the lobby gave me the boot they were treated to some heartfelt raucous laughter. I even had my elementalist banner and pathfinder title up. Good times.

 

Hehehehe, "you need to be 20 for this" is something I've never heard before. (I always admonish players that tote level 20's for not promoting and wasting their time not gaining xp) That just beats all that they kicked your level 17 ele. Hopefully they wiped on stage 3 without your amazing crowd control.

[Courtnehh]

My favorite came the other day. I hopped in a perilous as my 14 alchemist. I saw they had a rogue but no mage, so I switch to my 17 elementalist. Leader gets on the mic and says "sorry dude, you really need to be 20 to run this." Followed by red skulls. Before the lobby gave me the boot they were treated to some heartfelt raucous laughter. I even had my elementalist banner and pathfinder title up. Good times.

Hahahaha what morons.

[ChinookLoki]

I kick Hunters more than Archers for good reason. Hunters are underpowered. While Archers aren't quite as powerful as before, they're still ridiculously more powerful than Hunters are.

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So if I try to communicate to the Hunter in lobby to switch, and they aren't willing to, they need to go. 

 

I feel like you are not aware of how incredibly bad that sounds to a significant number of players.

Telling someone else what class they can or cannot play in the lobby has to be one of the more rude behaviours I've come across.

I don't even want to particularly play a Hunter, but hot damn if someone told me I wasn't allowed to? Surest way I'm going to.

This game is far too forgiving to require those kinds of demands and if you have any ability you can carry a Level 1 of the weakest class anyway.

If you want that kind of team make up control then you do it in a Private match where friends can sort out exactly what they are bringing, if you open to Public, work with what you get, at least for one round.

 

I wouldn't kick for this kind of rude behaviour, i'd go one further and add that kind of a player to my Ban/Ignore/Do not group with List.