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[Golfimbul]

After reading the "Studies on the Blight" codex I'm starting to think that those with the resistance are the ones capable of becoming fully fledged wardens. I think that this resistance passes on to generations. For example those of Amell blood have the potential to become wardens (Magi origin and Hawke twins), Alistair's mother was a warden, and Garahel's sister Isseya made it through the joining as well. How this resistance was gained I do not know. But, we have found recent examples after the first blight(not exactly since these events are centuries later): The blood of the Great dragon that Calenhad drank from and the contact of a spirit of faith which allowed the seekers to be immune of the effects of Red lyrium. I can not confirm whether the humanoid races have this as a natural genetic trait. The big question however is how this resistance came to be. Did it come during the first blight or did it come to be from an earlier time.

[raging_monkey]

Like any disease it's bound to have some resistance against it

[KainD]

Like any disease it's bound to have some resistance against it

 

Wtf? It's not a disease, it's a gift to study and use. 

[raging_monkey]

Wtf? It's not a disease, it's a gift to study and use.

most aren't as how do I put it "liberal" with the blight and applications so I chose disease for brevity's sake

[KaiserShep]

Wtf? It's not a disease, it's a gift to study and use. 

 

The gift....it was too much to bear.....  X_X

 

It being a disease is a matter of fact, regardless of whatever kind of logic one wishes to apply to it. It kills or corrupts just about everything in its path. Even those resistant to it eventually succumb to its effects, and it leaves the landscape a scarred infertile wasteland. The only reason to study it, other than perhaps to develop a Thedosian bioweapon, is to counteract and ideally eradicate it.

[raging_monkey]

That true but it's also magic

[KainD]

That true but it's also magic

 

This - blight magic and power of the blight in general is a very useful tool to have. Also not everyone succumbs, look at Avernus. Also if one could learn to control the darkspawn the way archedemons do the horde could be directed at any enemy. 

[Andromelek]

This - blight magic and power of the blight in general is a very useful tool to have. Also not everyone succumbs, look at Avernus. Also if one could learn to control the darkspawn the way archedemons do the horde could be directed at any enemy.

Actually the Architect can control the darkspawn, but when he tried with Urthemiel he could not hold him and that began the Fifth Blight.

[KainD]

Actually the Architect can control the darkspawn, but when he tried with Urthemiel he could not hold him and that began the Fifth Blight.

 

Well then you'd have to do better then eh? My plan is a ritual that will hopefully kill the archedemon and consume it's soul without dying. 

[Andromelek]

Well then you'd have to do better then eh? My plan is a ritual that will hopefully kill the archedemon and consume it's soul without dying.

Do You mean Morrigan's dark ritual? Or what do you want is to fully destroy the soul?

[KainD]

Do You mean Morrigan's dark ritual? Or what do you want is to fully destroy the soul?

 

I want a similar ritual. I want to slay an archedemon, absorb it's soul and control it, and inherit command over the darkspawn. 

[Master Warder Z_]

It's probably adaption over time to a outside stimulus.

Evolution.

[raging_monkey]

This - blight magic and power of the blight in general is a very useful tool to have. Also not everyone succumbs, look at Avernus. Also if one could learn to control the darkspawn the way archedemons do the horde could be directed at any enemy.

there was also a orlaisan mage that could weild the blight and wasn't a warden so it's possible that is more versatile than we expect

[KainD]

there was also a orlaisan mage that could weild the blight and wasn't a warden so it's possible that is more versatile than we expect

 

I don't think there was a term for blighted people outside of the warden organization, but I'm pretty sure you first have to go through the ''joining''. Unless there are other rituals. 

[Andromelek]

I want a similar ritual. I want to slay an archedemon, absorb it's soul and control it, and inherit command over the darkspawn.

I think it's more related to the original source of Blight than with the Archdemons, in the end, they are also victims of the taint, and even tainted creatures seems to dislike each other, Rock Wraiths and Darkspawn are both raised from the Blight, and they were fighting each other in the Primeval Thaig, so even if you gain control over the darkspawn, the Rock Wraiths and any other Red Lyrium unit would be out of your reach, Corypheus had to put Red Lyrium on himself to domain red templars and his dragon, seemingly loosing control over the Grey Wardens and Darkspawn in the process.

[KainD]

I think it's more related to the original source of Blight than with the Archdemons, in the end, they are also victims of the taint, and even tainted creatures seems to dislike each other, Rock Wraiths and Darkspawn are both raised from the Blight, and they were fighting each other in the Primeval Thaig, so even if you gain control over the darkspawn, the Rock Wraiths and any other Red Lyrium unit would be out of your reach, Corypheus had to put Red Lyrium on himself to domain red templars and his dragon, seemingly loosing control over the Grey Wardens and Darkspawn in the process.

 

It's all just the beginning. First we disect an archedemon, then we experriment with the red lyrium, then we take control over the blight and take over the world!

[raging_monkey]

I don't think there was a term for blighted people outside of the warden organization, but I'm pretty sure you first have to go through the ''joining''. Unless there are other rituals.

it was the first enchanter in the calling novel and closet I could tell was he was normal if a bit mad

[Gervaise]

Frederick also discovers in his studies on dragons that it has always been thought that normal dragons are resistant to the blight.  This sort of makes sense since there are no actual dragon hybrids apart from the archdemons and Cory's dragon was controlled through his soul share.    It may be that humans with a high concentration of elf blood are not only more likely to become mages but also more resistant to the blight.    Whilst we had shrieks in Origins, that are the result of elven brood mothers, we haven't seen them since, so may be they aren't as common.    Kieran with the old god soul is even intrigued by an elven Inquisitor because of their blood.  

 

There has to be some way to cleanse the world of the taint.   Otherwise it is eventually doomed because the Tranquil in the Suledin Fortress said that red lyrium can feed off any living organism.    May be the Warden looking for a cure for the wardens will come up with something that is generally useful.    Fiona was cured so it has to be possible.

[themageguy]

Hmmm i wonder if the Qunari were infused with dragon blood, was it done so in reaction to the blight?

Dragon-blooded warriors such as the Qunari and Reavers, would seem to be great options for troops battling Tainted enemies.

Meh, speculation if course.

[Hydwn]

Nice catch!  I would add to the list Genevieve and Bregan, another brother-sister team from The Calling.

 

The only possible counter-example I could think of is that *maybe* one of Nathaniel's relatives died in a joining, but he isn't sure.

 

Here's a thing, though.  If blight resistance runs in families, and most recruits do not survive the Joining, that means it's a minority of the population.  And since most Grey Wardens we've seen were recruited childless (young and frequently with few attachments) and their fertility goes way down after joining, does that mean that the pool of potential Grey Wardens is slowly decreasing?  

 

The blight resistance gene would have fewer and fewer opportunities to propagate, I'd expect, especially after 1000 years of the Wardens.

[Hydwn]

Actually, scratch that.  It would only be a factor if they could determine in advance who had the resistance.  As it is, they're killing at least a similar number of non-resistant people.

 

Imagine if they could figure it out, though?  There might be mass recruitings of resistant people to rebuild their ranks (Fereldan's Wardens have had to rebuild from the ashes twice already, and probably a third time after Inquisition).  Within a few generations, they might have eliminated all potential Wardens from the gene pool 0_o

[Br3admax]

Actually the Architect can control the darkspawn, but when he tried with Urthemiel he could not hold him and that began the Fifth Blight.

He wasn't trying to control the darkspawn, but break the control over them. That's kind of his entire character in every single way. 

[Excella Gionne]

The word 'blight" is strongly tied to Batarians.

[Sifr]

This - blight magic and power of the blight in general is a very useful tool to have. Also not everyone succumbs, look at Avernus. Also if one could learn to control the darkspawn the way archedemons do the horde could be directed at any enemy. 

 

Avernus does mention that through blood magic and his own research, he was able to prolong his life and delay the spread of the taint, but that he hasn't got long left when we meet him because he's not been able to stop it completely.

 

Talking about resistance though, Dwarves (especially those in Orzammar) are supposed to have some degree of resistance to it due to their physiology (they've got a far more hardier consitution than most races), as well as prolonged low-level exposure due to their proximity to the darkspawn?

 

Leliana's resistance might be the result of her low-level exposure during her travels with the Warden during the Fifth Blight?

[Magdalena11]

I agree that there's some degree of natural blight resistance.  I think most dragons are resistant to the blight, but not the Old Gods for some reason.  I'm also not sure why I think this, other than we've not seen or heard about blighted dragonlings, drakes, or high dragons (that would be bad.)  Also, why aren't there any Qunari wardens?  This is where I go really out on a limb.  What if the kossith that became ogre stock became Qunari to resist the blight, and Bull's right?  Theoretically, Alistair then wouldn't have been able to join, but Fiona was a warden beginning to show signs of taint when she became pregnant.  What if carrying a dragon-blood baby cleansed and immunized her, but removed his resistance?  Wild.  That would also explain why the griffons resisted, right up until Isseya removed their resistance with tainted blood in both the joining itself and blood magic.  If the griffons had a link with dragons.  There were mentions of deepstalkers, spiders and darkspawn using the same tunnels, and the spiders were getting corrupted, but not the deepstalkers.  We fought them in the Deep Roads.  Hmmmm.....