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Basher of Glory

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Just started my first MP-game. Alone, to see how it works.

 

I took the Keeper and get slaughtered.

 

She can cast barrier and chain lightning. Barrier works, but chain lightning is always greyed out, although the mana bar is full.

 

I'm certain, that there is something I failed to understand. Perhaps someone here can give me a bit n00b-help :D



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Beerfish

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Are you targeting an opponent?  If you are close enough to them they should appear with a little target X on them and you should then be able to cast your lighting.



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ok, that is weird.  she should be able to cast it any time if the mana is available.  with no enemies present, or out of attack range, the basic spell animation should still play out, just like say Winter's Grasp does, but just not hitting anything. 

 

BW?



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Hellsteeth30

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Yeah, it should always be available target or no.

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That is weird, it should have been available... But if it makes you feel any better, you were going to get slaughtered either way :P



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Just started my first MP-game. Alone, to see how it works....

 
Very sensible.

 

I did exactly that the first 3 or so missions.

Create a private lobby by myself, to kill 2 or three things before an inglorious death.

 

Just means I was comfortable with the controls before running after other players in an open game.



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Is it literally greyed out, and not just the same colours but more pale? If the former, my thought would be to try repair game, using Origin.

 

If you want to try it out with a companion player to see if it works then, you can send me a message via Origin - ID is the same as my ID here. I started off in the same way - soloing - so I am a specialist in getting slaughtered!


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One thing of mention, if you try to solo with Keeper is to use Fade Step (or Frost Step) for mobility (+damage).  Makes a huge difference in survivability.  But yeah, I know how tough it can be, tried it too.  Doable, but can take a while.


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The one ability I've always had this issue with is 'Throwing blades' with the Hunter.



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One thing of mention, if you try to solo with Keeper is to use Fade Step (or Frost Step) for mobility (+damage).  Makes a huge difference in survivability.  But yeah, I know how tough it can be, tried it too.  Doable, but can take a while.

Good point. I didn't take it in my first Keeper build - made life very difficult. As a complete beginner at the time I found a large number of ways of dying. It got easier once I decided to try Barrier -> Lightning -> run away and wait for Barrier to come available.


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The one ability I've always had this issue with is 'Throwing blades' with the Hunter.


You speak of it intermittently greying out?

I get that too. I think it's a target out of range thing though.

It may be in bow range but not blade range.

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Basher of Glory

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I'm going to try again, but in my last approach it was greyed out like "not available".

If I target an enemy nothing changes.

If an enemy is close (melee) nothing changes.

 

Is there an option to customize the keeper somewhat or are "chain li." and "barrier" given and not changeable?



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Hellsteeth30

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You can change the button assignment if you want, they aren't fixed.

Do it via the ability screen.

Press A, X or whatever on the PC on the desired ability then press one of four options in the bottom left. In the case of Xbox you can assign abilities to A,B,Y and RB.

You can have one ability assigned to all 4 if you wish.

EDIT: Missed a bit. Now added.

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You can change the button assignment if you want, they aren't fixed.

Do it via the ability screen.

Press A, X or whatever on the PC then press one of four options in the bottom left. In the case of Xbox you can assign abilities to A,B,Y and RB.

You can have one ability assigned to all 4 if you wish.

 

This. And I´d recommend just going into routine games to level your keeper, see if other abilities are affected too, or if they´re working. If you´re on PC feel free to send a FR  :)



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You speak of it intermittently greying out?

I get that too. I think it's a target out of range thing though.

It may be in bow range but not blade range.

Yes I agree that is what it is.  It's the only ability I have had that with however.  Even the assassins multi dagger attack has the same as a bow limit.  Seems strange they would have that limit only for that ability.  (It is pretty handy actaully and fun to use.)



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Oh yeah, it's a mini shotgun. Great fun on threatening.

Shame precision target doesn't seem to work though.

Beeowere pls fix.

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Good point. I didn't take it in my first Keeper build - made life very difficult. As a complete beginner at the time I found a large number of ways of dying. It got easier once I decided to try Barrier -> Lightning -> run away and wait for Barrier to come available.

 

 

For sure.  Kinda like Life in general, in that we learn ways things work and not.  I've had quite a few of those moments too.  :)



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I think, I solved it. Unfortunately it seems to be a minor bug.

 

In said game the "chain lightning" is assigned to key 1. I changed it to mouse button 3, which should be possible since the last patches. Game starts, ability greyed out.

 

I quit, start again and... it works, even with mouse button 3.

 

Now I started a SP-game to play the DLC. Exactly the same: Abilities of all party members assigned to key 1 are not available aka "greyed out".

 

I'm going to start and reload the last save and see, if it's the same as in MP and anything works properly.


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Glad to hear you're making some progress on this. 

 

BW, anything you can add regarding this bug?



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Basher of Glory

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Yes.

 

When I restarted my last game all abilities on key 1 worked as intended.

 

So, either we leave anything as it was or we assign to new keys, quit the game to desktop and start again.



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The one ability I've always had this issue with is 'Throwing blades' with the Hunter.


How so?

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How so?

 

You speak of it intermittently greying out?

I get that too. I think it's a target out of range thing though.

It may be in bow range but not blade range.

This happens to me as well, though I can never get a good feel for what the range is. I think I'm close enough and mashing the button but I need to keep getting closer



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you have a target selected but the system decides they are too far away so it wont allow you to cast...

 

try not to click on a target in mp, if you can actually get a controller and use it (I am forever hitting the `¬¦ key and activating the console command screen (which is a pita) when I try to tap esc to remove the target

 

I hate getting stuck targeting one mob and need to find a way of not doing that with the mouse, also if you use the left mouse button to drag view round you wont be able to cast spells /use skills half the time .......

 

I need a new controller, my last 2 went wonky on the pc (but they work great on the xbox)

 

dunno why but my ~ key is next to the return key yet the game hard maps the US keyboard layout with the ~key being next to 1 which I find really frustrating !!!


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try not to click on a target in mp, if you can actually get a controller and use it (I am forever hitting the `¬¦ key and activating the console command screen (which is a pita) when I try to tap esc to remove the target

 

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dunno why but my ~ key is next to the return key yet the game hard maps the US keyboard layout with the ~key being next to 1 which I find really frustrating !!!

This is the bane of my MP life. I am getting better at avoiding that key, but it is the reason why I don't normally use a mic. The torrent of abuse that streams forth when I realise why I cannot use the number keys would not be acceptable in a Dundee pub at closing time on a Friday.


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