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[Loufi]

Carnage on the kroguard, yes.

[Asari Master Race]

Electrical Hammer

[Quarian Master Race]

krogan passives aren't that great, so I'm actually not so certain about that. It gives you a little utility during hacks and escorts, or paired with bonus power.

I'd say it's probably pull on either of the drells. Can't see a situation for it where you aren't better off just shooting the target in the face or using grenades/reave.

Sabotage on quarksman as well. It serves no purpose against 2 of the 4 enemy factions on him, though it does have some limited uses against the two others.

[Caineghis2500]

Splash. "Nothing happens"

[DaemionMoadrin]

Electrical Hammer

 

Eh... have you ever tried it? I use it exclusively, with no points in Biotic Hammer ... and it is extremely effective vs. Geth... which are the usual enemies for the Warlord.

 

Biotic Hammer does significantly more damage to a single target but unless someone in the team primed it, you won't get an AoE effect. Electrical Hammer fries every target in range, staggers them and gives you more time to kill stuff.

 

My main reason for using it is that it's much easier to complete the biotic challenges than the tech challenges though, so I'm using EH to complete one very, very quickly.

[TheNightSlasher]

I think so, yes.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Fitness on all non-Drell / non-melee kits.

 

We got a badass over here.

[TheTechnoTurian]

Hunter Mode on a GI

[MaxCrushmore]

Carnage on the Vsol is pretty useless unless you want to deliberately run a non optimized build.

 

And before all those cries of 'you can generate your own FEs!', I said non-optimized, as there is no way you inflict as much damage going flamer / carnage / wait for really long cooldown over flamer

[MrsFlyingKebab]

Not a power as such, but OPs packs. You press the button and the enemies laugh at your corpse while you sit there saying 'wat?'.

[nat in the hat]

Carnage on the Vsol is pretty useless unless you want to deliberately run a non optimized build.
 
And before all those cries of 'you can generate your own FEs!', I said non-optimized, as there is no way you inflict as much damage going flamer / carnage / wait for really long cooldown over flamer

But you can create fire explosions

[Loufi]

I'd say it's probably pull on either of the drells. Can't see a situation for it where you aren't better off just shooting the target in the face or using grenades/reave.

Pulling a mook out of cover when your weapon can't pierce... and, of course, trolling a teammate who is about to do a grab.   

[Kate Upton]

Tac Cloak on anything. It's a terrible power. BioWare please buff.

[Deerber]

I'd say it's probably pull on either of the drells. Can't see a situation for it where you aren't better off just shooting the target in the face or using grenades/reave.

 

Pull's stagger is slightly faster than reave's, in my experience. Which means that there is some very slight, tiny utility to pull on the adept. Not so much on the vanguard, but I know of people who will disagree even with that.

 

Sabotage on the quarksman wins it over, for me, by a mile and a half. I mean, I'd probably still spec out of it if it had half the cooldown it actually has. The way is, it's just... Lol.

[Loufi]

Carnage on the Vsol is pretty useless unless you want to deliberately run a non optimized build.

 

And before all those cries of 'you can generate your own FEs!', I said non-optimized, as there is no way you inflict as much damage going flamer / carnage / wait for really long cooldown over flamer

I think that 3 ranks in Carnage has more use on the Vsol than the last rank of his power / weapon passives. 

[TheNightSlasher]

Carnage on the Vsol is pretty useless unless you want to deliberately run a non optimized build.

 

And before all those cries of 'you can generate your own FEs!', I said non-optimized, as there is no way you inflict as much damage going flamer / carnage / wait for really long cooldown over flamer

Non-optimal power doesn't make something useless.

 

More than half the kits have a power that doesn't feature in the most optimal build.

 

Lash on batguard, lash on batdept, lash on smashguard, stasis on AV, shockwave on novaguard, pull on DV, sabotage on QMS and a lot more - they are all 'useless' powers from an optimal build perspective. Carnage on VSol is no different than the ones mentioned. 

[Olivia Wilde]

Carnage on the Kroguard springs to mind for me as well

 

always a limited use character for me though

 

solo golds (and silver for grab farming) and not much else

[Deerber]

Oh, I forgot shockwave on the novaguard! Yeah, that one's gotta be up there too.

 

Inb4EroticMass

[Olivia Wilde]

Oh, I forgot shockwave on the novaguard! Yeah, that one's gotta be up there too.

 

Inb4EroticMass

Shockwave completes the screen shake trifecta so I put three levels into it

[GordianKnot42]

I nominate Broguard's Lash. Points there only detract from Charge Hatesurfing (which, as we all know, is the only way to play Broguard).

[GordianKnot42]

Oh, I forgot shockwave on the novaguard! Yeah, that one's gotta be up there too.
 
Inb4EroticMass

I actually made a Lifting Shockwave->Nova biotic detonation build, just to try it out. It's pretty fun. :-)

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

Sabotage. It's cool when it works but it's mostly useless on most enemies.

[Miniditka77]

I'd say it's probably pull on either of the drells. Can't see a situation for it where you aren't better off just shooting the target in the face or using grenades/reave.

 

I don't think any powers are useless on this game.  Still, the only power that I always skip is Pull on the Drells.  Not because I don't find Pull useful - it's because everything else on the Drell is too good to skip.  Normally I would take a rank or two out of Fitness or Passives to spec into another power, but Drell passives and movement speed are too good to skip.

 

Other than Pull, the powers I skip the most are Concussive Arrows and Electric Hammer.  I can't use them at the same time as AP Arrows or Biotic Hammer, so what's the point?

[MaxCrushmore]

Fair enough, and on my alt account I do have 3 points in Carnage as the rank 6 passive is underwhelming.

 

@NS - I can still think of a few uses for all the kits and powers you have listed, moreso than Carnage on the Vsol. It is about as useful as a second belly button

 

One misconception re the DV is that Pull is worthless (not specifically addressed to anyone but it is a general felling here on BSN). Pull on the DV is absolutely awesome, the problem is the DV's other powers are even better. Pull / BC for the plus %75 BE is wicked .. sadly it's tough to find the skill points to get 6 ranks into it