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Witcher's a lot more progressive than Dragon Age in relationship


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Geralt got what he deserves and there's consequence for cheating for once. lol

 

Best scene in the game. I like the way they handle cheating in this game since there's actual consequence and related to the ending. I've always wanted for the LI to just dump you straight out if they find out that you were cheating on them.


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That was ... OK. Kind of funny, though the set-up was pretty obvious. Yet another Witcher cutscene I feel kind of underwhelmed by. :mellow:



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This was really hilarious to watch.

 

I do feel, though, that in the earlier Bioware games it was really easy to accidentally romance someone while you were trying to go for someone else. The jealousy talks were then a good way to go 'oh crud, I should go talk to them and break up with them'. Maybe now that they've made the flirt options distinguishable with the little heart, they could maybe consider implementing something like this.

 

I think that there should be at least a few 'free' flirt options in the beginning though, and it's only when you attempt to lock in more than one romance that consequences happen.


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I applaud CDPR so much for this scene. Laughed my arse off when I heard about it.  :lol:


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Okay, it's cool that there are consequences for cheating.

 

But how exactly is it "a lot more progressive' than Dragon Age?  Because the two sexy scantily clad women call out the gruff stubbly straight male protagonist?


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Aww look how happy Geralt is at 1:29 - 1:30 


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You can't really cheat in dragon age, so I don't see the problem. And I don't think that calling the player out for cheating is progression. Just common sense.



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You can't really cheat in dragon age, so I don't see the problem. And I don't think that calling the player out for cheating is progression. Just common sense.

In Dragon Age games, it was usually the LI's who got into fights through banter like Morrigan and Leliana.



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Well. We have come long way since da:o's cat fights, our LI's have gotten older for once. And Morrigan and Leliana fought about everything. (At least that was my impression and play a female character.)



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That's not an example of progressiveness in terms of relationships. That video just shows two chicks giving their cheating boyfriend his comeuppance for two-timing them - with the added bonus of bad voice-acting (that Dandelion guy...was that supposed to be good voice-acting?) upping the hilarity factor. Well, it certainly succeeded in giving me a laugh in the same sort of way that that doofus chained to Empress Celene's bed made me laugh, the reason being that both scenes essentially make fun of a guy who has let his d--- do his thinking for him.

 

On the scale of dramatic impact and significance, I'd put this scene at a level only slightly higher than that of The Jerry Springer Show - you know, when they have a guy's ex(es) and current girlfriend(s) come out on stage and start a catfight with each other and/or gang up on him and then they all fight/scream ad infinitum. A "progressive" relationship would probably involve the characters having an open marriage or polyandry or something like that - not this whole "Geralt gets punked by his GFs!" thing.


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Still no consequences for seducing Geralt while he had amnesia. No, that was just thrown right underneath the bus again. Talk about that progression. 


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I don't know. Both girls are heavily objectified, with camera focused on their thighs and breasts - they're more or less just pretty things wearing panties. So, nope, ain't progressive at all.

 

The latest Game of Thrones sexual scene with the Sand Snakes and the vial of antidote - that, yeah, that had strong women written all over it. Not here.

 

Here, I'm afraid, Geralt would get up, get his bearings, and if he chooses, both girls get what's coming to them. It's still his world, and they're little more than pretty figures to satisfy his desires. Not actual female characters with their hopes and dreams.


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How in the **** do you objectify fictional people?

 

As for the rest of that SJW dribble, you probably haven't actually played the game. I can tell by the total lack of truth in what you just said. "This is Geralt's world, and it all revolves around his penis," is a lot less to write, you know? It'd still have the same gist and still be just as wrong. 


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It's still his world, and they're little more than pretty figures to satisfy his desires. Not actual female characters with their hopes and dreams.


never played the game confirmed
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The latest Game of Thrones sexual scene with the Sand Snakes and the vial of antidote - that, yeah, that had strong women written all over it. Not here.

 

The Sand Snakes? The three interchangeable sex puppets, with terribad power ranger levels of acting and action, that are only differentiated by their preferred weapons are the positive example. Because one of them flashed her knockers and wanted to be called the prettiest. 

 

You SJWs are weird.


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In Dragon Age games, it was usually the LI's who got into fights through banter like Morrigan and Leliana.

 

True, but they also call you out at some point and make you chose. Of course it would have been better if someone just dumped you for two-timing.



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But seriously if people want "progressive" game about cheating play Catherine. Whole plot is about cheating and consequences of that.


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But seriously if people want "progressive" game about cheating play Catherine. Whole plot is about cheating and consequences of that.

It's also one of the hardest puzzle games out there, especially on nightmare.  I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet, but the game is a headtrip.



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It's also one of the hardest puzzle games out there, especially on nightmare.  I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet, but the game is a headtrip.

 

It's pretty challenging even with easy ^^;



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Eh, that was OK, but my takeaway from this video is that I'm not entirely sold on the quality of the voice acting.


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Now if only Geralt didn't have the personality of a damn fish, and talks like a blender filled with gravel then we might have progress at least.. The dialogue he has with token LI Shani or Triss in the first game is cringe-worthy but I always found Triss to be quite annoying and a terrible 'love interest' both the first game and the second. Although, all's fair when you can simply choose to not pursue either of them.. is what I would be saying if in the second game you aren't forced into some 1-on-1s with Triss.

The way I see it is that they are both not that good with romance.

 

I like the Witcher though -- I just don't like its irritating love interest subplots with its borderline pornographic action-figure sex scenes (ala Witcher 2). Ignoring that I've come to liking them quite a bit.

Someone above mentioned Catherine, which is an interesting example, a game developed by the P-studio (the Persona developers) of Atlus that seemingly centers around the aftermath of a relationship that is already going on; In contrast to the usual "commencement" of a relationship like in your average game where love, sex, feels more like a reward than something substantial that adds anything to the narrative or character growth. I like the mention because to me, relationships in the Persona games have always felt more strong and well-written by comparison to that of BioWare -- If only because they focus around growth, the dialogue and character development, a sense of maturity, where sex scenes are an unnecessary anomaly, because they aren't the heart of a good love story.

They are also such a small part of that series and despite that they add a whole lot of depth and layers to the characters, but one isn't forced to pursue them.

I like Catherine for its complexity in regards to its characters experience with love, both the main cast, and the NPCs you interact with in the pub you roam for most of the game. You can talk to the recurring NPCs and basically help them get their life back on track, as they discuss philosophy in regards to the meaning of love and how trust and mutual respect is the core of all good relationships -- In stark contrast to most of them being unfaithful which reflects most relationships.

I also like how the game seemingly offers middle grounds in terms of its endings which was surprising and it doesn't necessarily feel like the game actually resents you for its choices.

 

All in all,


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The title itself doesn't quite capture the message honestly. I'd just say there's more funny involve when you are caught cheating. That's about it sadly. The relationships however feel like they are a lot more in depth overall.

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Nice bait, OP. :)

DA community triggers quite well on 'progressive'.


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Nice bait, OP. :)
DA community triggers quite well on 'progressive'.


Yeah.. I again like tw.. But threads like this feel more flame baity than sincere.

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It's also one of the hardest puzzle games out there, especially on nightmare.  I haven't gotten a chance to play it yet, but the game is a headtrip.

 

Ugh, I really like Catherine but after playing you can see the blocks rolling under your eyelids when you're trying to sleep. Your brain just doesn't switch off.


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