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[Saphiron123]

Bioware, I get why you made the deal with microsoft you did, and normally I don't flinch at these things... an extra month? Who really cares, I can handle that, hell it gives you time to iron out the bugs and that works for me. Now Jaws is coming out on ps4 and truthfully, it doesn't really matter anymore. Maybe in a year it will, after all the dlc has dropped months and months after the xbox gets theirs, but it's such a long wait that it totally kills the expense, while other titles come out to catch my attention.

Two months is a long damn time to wait for dlc on top of production time... and i'm not going to run out and buy an xbox just to experience it, if anything it just confirms how greedy microsoft is. Thing is, that's not even the worst part... the real killer, is the whole "we can't even talk about when it comes out on other platforms" part of the agreement.

Just saying, as a consumer, no matter what you were paid, you've sent a message to every PS4 player that we're not even worth telling when we can participate in the new content, and that made the two months worse, because it made it easy to just write it off and think "okay, when it comes, whatever"... it's no longer something we  put at the top of our queue to play, because we didn't know when or even if we'd end up getting it.

It's bad business, and if dlc sales on ps4 fall short, I wanted to say as a ps4 user why that might be. Right now, passionate as I am about dragon age, I'm not falling over myself to buy this DLC. A month is one thing, a month for the announcement of another month is something completely different.

I know your next dlc and the one after that is going to drop for me in four to six months. And even when it's announced, I can't even be sure I'll get it that quickly. How can I be excited for that?

I understand timed exclusives, I don't understand this business model because with your past dlc, exclusive or not, I WAS really excited... it sucks that I don't feel that way now.

[Br3admax]

BioWare didn't make a deal with Microsoft; EA did. This definitely isn't the place to leave this type of feedback when EA's controls most of these decisions on the corporate level. 

[Saphiron123]

BioWare didn't make a deal with Microsoft; EA did. This definitely isn't the place to leave this type of feedback when EA's controls most of these decisions on the corporate level. 

Still deserves to be said. I've never seen a worse exclusivity deal, and I somehow doubt bioware gets no say whatsoever. I've never seen another ea title so with such a bad one.

[AresKeith]

Still deserves to be said. I've never seen a worse exclusivity deal, and I somehow doubt bioware gets no say whatsoever. I've never seen another ea title so with such a bad one.

 

Then you obviously have no idea how things work 

[wolfhowwl]

Things could be worse.

 

Rumor has it that MS tried to buy up ME4 like they did Tomb Raider but EA told them to hit the road.

[Br3admax]

 

Then you obviously have no idea how things work 

Indeed. BioWare is only a game developer. As in they develop the game and then send it to be processed by EA. What happens with the game after that point has nothing to do wit them. 

[TheOgre]

This kinda stuff happens all the time, no offense man. I'd rather they didn't but yeah.

[rayvioletta]

I've never seen a worse exclusivity deal

 

Mass Effect 1, PC and Xbox with no PS release

Fable 2, no PC release (despite 1 & 3 being on PC)

GTA games from 3 onwards, ever increasing delays between console and PC releases

not to mention all the various XboX and PS exclusives

 

waiting a few months for content that others already have access to does indeed suck, and make the left out customers feel neglected, but there are worse

[Captain Wiseass]

Then you obviously have no idea how things work 

That's never stopped him before...

[FKA_Servo]

I think the exclusivity might only apply to the first DLC, though I might be wrong.

 

In any event, it was worse with Skyrim. Xbox got each DLC something like three months before any other platform, PC included.

[AresKeith]

I think the exclusivity might only apply to the first DLC, though I might be wrong.

 

In any event, it was worse with Skyrim. Xbox got each DLC something like three months before any other platform, PC included.

 

Yeah, it's only for the first DLC

[Bathead]

I notice the only times that some complain about having to wait for DLC because of an exclusivity deal are the ones who have to wait. When it's Xbox DLC that comes out first, the PS3 and PC players complain, but when it happens later that it's the PS3 or the PC players that get it first then those same Xbox players that got it first before are thee ones to ****** about it.

[Saphiron123]

That's never stopped him before...

You're kind of a dick, dude. It's a really bad exclusivity deal and it's a fair comment, if you don't like me that's totally cool, don't comment on my comments and move on with your life.

 

 

I notice the only times that some complain about having to wait for DLC because of an exclusivity deal are the ones who have to wait. When it's Xbox DLC that comes out first, the PS3 and PC players complain, but when it happens later that it's the PS3 or the PC players that get it first then those same Xbox players that got it first before are thee ones to ****** about it.

I don't mind timed exclusivity, but over 2 months and a gag order on when it will be released on other systems? That's pretty rough. If it was a month I wouldn't say a word, but this is the worst I've ever seen.

[Il Divo]

Like anything else, I find exclusivity deals frustrating. Why should I, as a consumer, want to wait longer for access to something others have? On the other end of the spectrum, I also realize the company exists to put their interests first. As a consumer, I'm simply a means to that end via my money. If they've made the call that this benefits their interests the most, then that's what they'll do. 

[CronoDragoon]

Timed exclusive content for Destiny is a year, right?

[Akrabra]

They have always bothered me. Buying the right for something under the nose of others is petty. I understand it is in the name of buisness and making money, etc. Still they are supposed to support gamers and ensure they always have access to the content they paid for and have a right to. If you really want something badly then make an eclusive deal on the entire game, not just the dlc.

[Panda]

I think exclusive deals aren't nice for gamers, it feels stupid that payers have to wait, when they are going to pay same money in the end. EA and Bioware aren't any small company either that need to live off exclusivity deals, they could do without and let every gamer who wants to buy DLC be happy. Personally I somehow still get exclusive games and so on, easier to program for one system after all, but exclusive DLC even if it's timed to game that already is open for many platforms? That's just seems unfair.

[Geth Supremacy]

BioWare didn't make a deal with Microsoft; EA did. This definitely isn't the place to leave this type of feedback when EA's controls most of these decisions on the corporate level. 

 

Exactly.  SONY finally stopped taking it laying down though.  SFV exclusive to PS4 forever as a deal between SONY and Capcom.  For a while you only saw Microsoft doing it and it was only timed.

 

All these practices are bad for gaming and gamers at the end of the day though.

[Darkly Tranquil]

These deals suck all round. The only thing you can do is vote with your wallet. Don't buy games and DLC that are part of these exclusivity deals, because that's the only way to get your point across; I didn't buy Jaws of Hakkon (even though I play on PC) because I thought what Bioware/EA did was rotten. Until gamers wake up and become smarter consumers and boycott companies who employ disreputable business practices, game developers and publishers are just going to keep doing these crappy things to milk as much money out of us as they can. I'm personally so sick of this nonsense, I barely buy any AAA games anymore. If it continues in the current vein, I'll probably just give up gaming altogether.

[MyKingdomCold]

"I don't mind timed exclusivity, but over 2 months and a gag order on when it will be released on other systems? That's pretty rough. If it was a month I wouldn't say a word, but this is the worst I've ever seen."

 

Worst you've ever seen?  Fallout New Vegas had timed exclusive DLC for two months as well.  As has already been said, Destiny has timed exclusive content on PS4 for a year.  Don't really care about Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's also timed exclusive for Xbox One.  

[Kantr]

Timed exclusive content for Destiny is a year, right?

Yeah, there's also exclusive DLC for the playstation that the xbox will never get.

[Kantr]

I think exclusive deals aren't nice for gamers, it feels stupid that payers have to wait, when they are going to pay same money in the end. EA and Bioware aren't any small company either that need to live off exclusivity deals, they could do without and let every gamer who wants to buy DLC be happy. Personally I somehow still get exclusive games and so on, easier to program for one system after all, but exclusive DLC even if it's timed to game that already is open for many platforms? That's just seems unfair.

It looks good to shareholders when you can say that even before the game has launched you've made money off of it.

[Saphiron123]

Exactly.  SONY finally stopped taking it laying down though.  SFV exclusive to PS4 forever as a deal between SONY and Capcom.  For a while you only saw Microsoft doing it and it was only timed.

 

All these practices are bad for gaming and gamers at the end of the day though.

I actually mind total exclusiveity less then this. I own DAI, therefore i want to continue my own story. If i can't have a gears of war or something like that it's fine, i just won't get it... but "screw you, you can't finish the game or even know when you can finish the game until microsoft decides so is pretty damned silly".

Again, I wouldn't quibble about a month, beta test away, but the gag order and 2 months is a long damn time. Now I'm playing scholar of the first sin and witcher 3, if anything i'm just bummed that the excitement i originally felt is pretty much absent after so long.

 

"I don't mind timed exclusivity, but over 2 months and a gag order on when it will be released on other systems? That's pretty rough. If it was a month I wouldn't say a word, but this is the worst I've ever seen."

 

Worst you've ever seen?  Fallout New Vegas had timed exclusive DLC for two months as well.  As has already been said, Destiny has timed exclusive content on PS4 for a year.  Don't really care about Rise of the Tomb Raider but that's also timed exclusive for Xbox One.  

Honestly i never got around to playing new vegas. Always found bethesda games to be very glitchy, i usually wait a year or more just to buy because they tend to be off to such a rough start... great games when they're functional though.

[Rawgrim]

I actually mind total exclusiveity less then this. I own DAI, therefore i want to continue my own story. If i can't have a gears of war or something like that it's fine, i just won't get it... but "screw you, you can't finish the game or even know when you can finish the game until microsoft decides so is pretty damned silly".

Again, I wouldn't quibble about a month, beta test away, but the gag order and 2 months is a long damn time. Now I'm playing scholar of the first sin and witcher 3, if anything i'm just bummed that the excitement i originally felt is pretty much absent after so long.

 

Honestly i never got around to playing new vegas. Always found bethesda games to be very glitchy, i usually wait a year or more just to buy because they tend to be off to such a rough start... great games when they're functional though.

 

New Vegas isn't a Bethesda game, really. It is an Obsidian game. That means way more bugs.

[10K]

Things could be worse.
 
Rumor has it that MS tried to buy up ME4 like they did Tomb Raider but EA told them to hit the road.

I wish this deal would have happened. I'd gladly go buy an Xbox one. To know I wouldn't be supporting EA and to know ME4 will be in good hands would be worth it.