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[KaiserShep]

Are the fishermen alive after the Story?

I was thinking the exact same thing by the end of the DLC.

 

Spoiler

When I finally got back to Cloudcap Lake, I actually searched briefly to see if I could see any sign of them, and after killing Hakkon, I wandered around Stone-Bear Hold to see if I could see them there, and nothing. Like, they just vanished, or they're buried in that ice. I would assume that they joined the rest of the Avvar at the hold to prepare for the raid on the Jaws of Hakkon's stronghold, but it would've been nice to see them.

[Dukemon]

hmm.

I have recruited Sigrid to see, or hear, to listen what have Cullen to say about that.^^ too bad, that there is only new decor for skyhold and no dialog with Advisor and companions.

[Vox Draco]

I am still wondering the OP's question as well... and it's not the money (I spent more money on less good stuff, like, ahem, ME3? Ha!)...but more that feeling some others have here as well: That compared to the main-game the price is just not really justified. I mean, is JoH really half as big in content as DA: Awakening, cause that one was a full expansion for about 25-30 bucks right? I cannot imagine JoH is anywhere close to that one in terms of scale and content...

 

So it's more a matter of "principles"  Iam not purchasing it (yet). If on sale further down the year, surely I'll have a go, Geralt of rivia will be done for some day, and I am already itching to revisit Thedas in some weeks...

 

BTW...is JoH the only expansion, will there be more coming? Any reliable news on that?

[Shechinah]

*snip*

JoH is not an expansion pack, it is a DLC that adds additional area, storyline and lore similar to, maybe say, one of Origin's DLC which included an area except bigger than that,  I believe. It is hard to compare.

 

"Jaws of Hakkon" is, in my opinion, great if you like lore related to exploring Avvar culture, tradition and religion as well as if you are curious towards the previous Inquisition. It seems an attempt on Bioware's part to improve on the game's current formula by distilling it by making everything relate to the central storyline and I consider it a successful attempt but if you have no love of that kind of formula then I doubt you'll find JoH enjoyable or worth the price.

[Qun00]

I liked it, but I never would have gotten it if it wasn't for the sale on Origin. Despite it being good, I don't really think it's worth 15$ if you don't have money to waste. You do get a large amount of content though, but it's not very story heavy if that's what you're looking for.

15$ isn't a lot of money.

[Chiramu]

15$ isn't a lot of money.

 

It is money lost if you are not really playing the game actively . I haven't even gone into the game anymore, so I will wait until I think there is something worth returning to. 

[dsl08002]

personally I don't think that its worth so much its only two missions that are great along with the conclusion and revelation regarding the first inquisitor that is worth something. but the rest is just an extension of the boring sidequests and exploration.

The main problem I have with this DLC is that it isnt linear, you don't really know what mission to start with or in fact how they are all connected.

[Torgette]

I enjoyed it, $15 isn't really an issue for me, but I could see where if it were then it's not really worth it (maybe $10?).

[katerinafm]

15$ isn't a lot of money.

 

Depends on the person's disposable income.

[BansheeOwnage]

It costs about as much as two cocktails, and you'll spend far longer playing it than drinking those, I guess.

Again, you have to compare it to the price of the base game and the content that offers. Not sandwiches and stuff

 

Thanks, Ashaantha and BansheeOwnage! Really good points about the dialogue, Solas, and equipment usage. I will likely run it before the end to hear Solas (in main party this round) and try out the equipment on the ending areas. Then I'll make another PT where I do it post-ending without worrying about anything and enjoy the new pieces of dialogue. Again, thanks you two!

You're welcome! Glad I could help

[Magdalena11]

I am still wondering the OP's question as well... and it's not the money (I spent more money on less good stuff, like, ahem, ME3? Ha!)...but more that feeling some others have here as well: That compared to the main-game the price is just not really justified. I mean, is JoH really half as big in content as DA: Awakening, cause that one was a full expansion for about 25-30 bucks right? I cannot imagine JoH is anywhere close to that one in terms of scale and content...

 

So it's more a matter of "principles"  Iam not purchasing it (yet). If on sale further down the year, surely I'll have a go, Geralt of rivia will be done for some day, and I am already itching to revisit Thedas in some weeks...

 

BTW...is JoH the only expansion, will there be more coming? Any reliable news on that?

I actually disagree.  I thought that JoH fixed a lot of the stuff that wasn't working in the main game, and enjoyed playing it much more.  Now, for me, I really look forward to being high enough level to go explore and goof around.   It's kind of like a reward.

[AlexWk31]

I got it with a gift card. I don't think I would have paid with my own money to get it. It doesn't really do anything for me. I was never really interested in the Avaar and I only had a passing interest in the original Inquisition. The only things I really liked about the DLC was the (short) interaction with Ameridan, the new area, and the Hakkon's Wisdom staff. Also, Gwendoline Christie. Other than that it was kind of boring. I'm also getting tired of the cut-scene-less dialogues. 

[TheRatPack55]

It costs about as much as two cocktails, and you'll spend far longer playing it than drinking those, I guess.

 

But if it's ****, it'll just make me feel bad. Two cocktails will make me feel good for a while...

[Knight of Dane]

I did enjoy some aspects of the DLC but I did not find it worth the price.

[duckley]

I am really enjoying the DLC. Definately think it is best to play after the game.

[KotorEffect3]

It depends how much you liked the base game.  Overall it has pretty good content, new gear, a new ability, intresting tidbits about the original inquisitor, experience some Avaar culture etc...  Still lacks in the cinematic department.

[Magdalena11]

I did enjoy some aspects of the DLC but I did not find it worth the price.

Value is very subjective.  I enjoy JoH more than the main game, so it's more than worth it for me.  For the sake of comparison, the DLC costs about 15% on what I spend on a week's worth of ordinary groceries for 2.  I can say that the area is many times larger than all DAO, and you can walk from one end to the other without encountering a loading screen.  I can say that the scenery is diverse, covering a pretty large selection of terrains.  I can say that the level design doesn't force you to ignore the useless compass, but encourages you to use your eyes, and it takes getting used to, but will make the main game more fun (and you'll find more loot in the main game too while taking less time to do it, trust me.)  You can probably truck through and finish the whole thing in, what 15-20 hours?  I usually take way longer, because I enjoy wandering around collecting tier 3 and 4 mats.  In the sense of the minimum time needed to finish the quests, the comparison with Awakenings is apt.  In terms of relevance and intent, I'm not sure the comparison is a good one.  It's more like a diverse Forbidden Oasis without the bathroom triggers.  My suggestion would be to check YouTube and see if there are any videos, than see if that helps you make up your mind.

[duckley]

Almost finished and still enjoying...so again, yes

[myahele]

I saw someone play it on Twitch. I enjoyed it watching it and I wished each area had a main story similar to how Jaws of Hakkon was handled.

 

For me, i just can't justify spending $15 for it. Maybe it's because I play a sub-based mmorpg and $15 can offer alot in terms of gameplay ... as opposed to an area

[Magdalena11]

I'll confess I've played up to the dragon fight, then quit every time.  I don't want it (JoH) to end, because exploring really is fun, and while I know I'm missing something by not finishing, this is a timer I don't HAVE to do if I don't want to, so I won't.  I'm totally OK with not having everything there is to have.  Sacrifices are such a huge part of life, missing something I didn't know was there isn't upsetting.  If there are schematics or rare loot items, I don't know about them, don't need them, and will never miss them.  So, yes, I really haven't finished it, but I don't feel like I've lost anything at all (except stress.)  I do have some really cool toys to play with even if I left the party early, and it was worth going for that reason alone.

[leaguer of one]

But if it's ****, it'll just make me feel bad. Two cocktails will make me feel good for a while...

If you like lore and exploring then it's worth it. If not skip it.

[BansheeOwnage]

No offense to anyone, but can we stop comparing the $15 price of JoH to sandwiches, groceries, movie tickets, books, cocktails and any other thing that isn't the base game and its price? It's irrelevant what it costs for the most part. What's important is how it compares to Vanilla DA:I. Thanks.

[c0bra951]

I don't understand the balking at the $15 price point.  At least on consoles, $15 is the standard price for newly released substantive DLC to a major game.  If you're going to put it in terms of hours, you need to consider that $60 for a game that can consume hundreds of hours of your life is an uncharacteristic bargain.  There are plenty of $60 games that become shelf decoration or license-file filler after 20-30 hours, and JoH certainly delivers more bang for the buck than those--if you like the main game.  If you don't, the question is really not for you, since presumably you've moved on to greener pastures.

[Ashaantha]

Not everyone values the worth of something the same way, whether it's a digital addition to a game or not.

To some it is simply the price, to some it's the enjoyment they get out of it, and to some it's based on what they've previously spent on the game. I am sure there's a variety of other priorities to people as well.

Main point is none of those ways of deciding the worth of a game, or game content, are wrong at all.

[BansheeOwnage]

I don't understand the balking at the $15 price point.  At least on consoles, $15 is the standard price for newly released substantive DLC to a major game.  If you're going to put it in terms of hours, you need to consider that $60 for a game that can consume hundreds of hours of your life is an uncharacteristic bargain.  There are plenty of $60 games that become shelf decoration or license-file filler after 20-30 hours, and JoH certainly delivers more bang for the buck than those--if you like the main game.  If you don't, the question is really not for you, since presumably you've moved on to greener pastures.

Not in my experience. Almost every DLC I've ever got was $10.

 

Not everyone values the worth of something the same way, whether it's a digital addition to a game or not.

To some it is simply the price, to some it's the enjoyment they get out of it, and to some it's based on what they've previously spent on the game. I am sure there's a variety of other priorities to people as well.

Main point is none of those ways of deciding the worth of a game, or game content, are wrong at all.

I just don't understand why anyone would compare getting a game DLC to food. They serve totally different purposes whereas the base games and DLC serve the same one. Unless you're limited on spending money, that is. I don't know, I just don't get it. Call me narrow-minded.