Well that was interesting..
But what if you want to experiment or run emulators or such?
Hell if you buy the hardware you should be allowed to do what you want as long as you are not hurting or infringing on other people. If it helps why not have an option that says this when you turn the console on so that you acknowledge you are going to mod your device and accept any risk.
Not so much freedom left for the people of the land of freedom...
gonna go back to my police state where i can mod my ps4 whatever i like.
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Isn't that like putting lipstick on a turtle?
Or a spoiler on a Chevy Volt?
If you want to mod and have real results shouldn't you use a PC?
What are "real results"? Guys in the video seemed to have gotten plenty just fine despite it being more of a pain in the ass.
As long as people aren't illegally acquiring games like the guys in the video people should be able to knock themselves out with modding their consoles.
besides console is MUCH more cheaper(x4 cheaper here). so i would like to have some upgrades here and there. also some augments or mods.
if i do such upgrades within the conditions of the warranty - such upgrade should not trigger anything from the law side of the matter.
if i do some upgrades that violates conditions of the warranty - fine, i am willingly cancel my warranty in order to have some mods or upgrades for my console. this act however should not be considered as violations of the law of any kind. that doesn't make sense.
because it's more like you don't actually buy stuff for your own use, but rather rent it and you can't actually do much about it, because you don't actually own the stuff.
Ha, copyright. It's legalised racketeering,
It shouldn't, it's private property which I paid for, I could even build up a grilling machine out of it.
Deal with it, companies.
I did like the guy in the video talking about internet toasters
Honestly, I think modding consoles should be the next step for console gaming.
Consider the Xbox One and PS4;they're basically budget PCs that you can't upgrade but you're at least guaranteed to be able to play the games that release for the next however many years. But what if they were machines that like PCs could be upgraded with parts every year or so? Then we wouldn't have consoles locked to their strength at launch(which for Xbox One and PS4 is 2013). There'd be constant updates and upgrades and the consoles could improve right along with PCs if a consumer was committed to buying those upgrades;if not, they could get by with the base console.
Only problem I see with that is because its console gaming and not everyone would get upgrades, games would either-
A. Be made according to base specs, which defeats the entire point of upgrades in the first place
or
B. Be made accommodating newer specs, which would leave out those who didn't upgrade
If A, then people who upgrade are gonna complain. If B, then people who didn't upgrade are gonna complain. It'd be a hard sell to do this within the console market depending on how it'd work.
What would REALLY rock is if these updates/upgrades would be free, but lets be honest, thats dreaming. If it was free, consoles would have a real nice win in their column;budget PCs with free upgrades throughout the years of its lifespan that aren't comparable to top of the line PC upgrades but are at least good competition on a medium to high level.
Sony and MS are already giving out sales day by day, week by week, and month by month for games in their stores. Not quite Steam sale levels of price cuts, but they do what they do. In my mind they should keep pushing forward. Consoles are plenty successful in their current state but in an evolving world things need to change.
This in combination with support for in-game modding and oh damn. It'd be a solid evolution for console gaming. For now, both the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same thing and will continue to be the same thing for the very long foreseeable future. But if MS and Sony want to bridge the gap between console gaming and PC gaming, this is at least in my mind the next step they should be thinking about.
Honestly, I think modding consoles should be the next step for console gaming.
Consider the Xbox One and PS4;they're basically budget PCs that you can't upgrade but you're at least guaranteed to be able to play the games that release for the next however many years. But what if they were machines that like PCs could be upgraded with parts every year or so? Then we wouldn't have consoles locked to their strength at launch(which for Xbox One and PS4 is 2013). There'd be constant updates and upgrades and the consoles could improve right along with PCs if a consumer was committed to buying those upgrades;if not, they could get by with the base console.
Only problem I see with that is because its console gaming and not everyone would get upgrades, games would either-
A. Be made according to base specs, which defeats the entire point of upgrades in the first place
or
B. Be made accommodating newer specs, which would leave out those who didn't upgrade
If A, then people who upgrade are gonna complain. If B, then people who didn't upgrade are gonna complain. It'd be a hard sell to do this within the console market depending on how it'd work.
What would REALLY rock is if these updates/upgrades would be free, but lets be honest, thats dreaming. If it was free, consoles would have a real nice win in their column;budget PCs with free upgrades throughout the years of its lifespan that aren't comparable to top of the line PC upgrades but are at least good competition on a medium to high level.
Sony and MS are already giving out sales day by day, week by week, and month by month for games in their stores. Not quite Steam sale levels of price cuts, but they do what they do. In my mind they should keep pushing forward. Consoles are plenty successful in their current state but in an evolving world things need to change.
This in combination with support for in-game modding and oh damn. It'd be a solid evolution for console gaming. For now, both the PS4 and Xbox One are basically the same thing and will continue to be the same thing for the very long foreseeable future. But if MS and Sony want to bridge the gap between console gaming and PC gaming, this is at least in my mind the next step they should be thinking about.
Very well said...
If only.
Why can't the Xbox have options for bigger hard disks and CPU and RAM? Come on MS why is this too hard? Same for the PS4, Why Sony? Why are we locked into your one size fits all approach?
Modding your consoles shouldn't be illegal.
That said my only thought is once you allow modding, what's the point in consoles? The main benefit for them is that A. They're cheaper on the initial cost compared to very high end rigs and B. Everybody using the same hardware leads to things working much better without spending time tinkering whenever you get a new game.
Custom hardware negates both of those things while at the same time not providing you with the freedoms that PC players enjoy because the console OS is still horribly restricted in comparison to Windows. MS/Sony/Nintendo control virtually everything that happens on their consoles.
At that point, you might as well just buy a mid range PC and plug a controller into it.
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No it shouldnt. If I have access to the hardware or software I should be able to customize it to my preferences
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Some cool **** can be done though. Reverse Engineering + adding new features. I knew a guy who transformed his Playstation into a youtube machine. Dope ****
Modding would be nice but consoles in general aren't mod friendly. If you screw up a mod it may result in the modded game and possibly the whole console being unplayable.
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Modding would be nice but consoles in general aren't mod friendly. If you screw up a mod it may result in the modded game and possibly the whole console being unplayable.
I am curious at how it would get into that state.
I am curious at how it would get into that state.
well if you do something wrong on the software or hardware you can't undo you could very well brick the whole machine. Tons of fun then with your new door stop
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well if you do something wrong on the software or hardware you can't undo you could very well brick the whole machine. Tons of fun then with your new door stop
Modding the game yes but to the point where it actually messes up an OS? I am trying to think of a scenario but I can't
Modding the game yes but to the point where it actually messes up an OS? I am trying to think of a scenario but I can't
No I don't think you could do that.. I meant people fiddling with the OS.
Modding your consoles shouldn't be illegal.
That said my only thought is once you allow modding, what's the point in consoles? The main benefit for them is that A. They're cheaper on the initial cost compared to very high end rigs and B. Everybody using the same hardware leads to things working much better without spending time tinkering whenever you get a new game.
Custom hardware negates both of those things while at the same time not providing you with the freedoms that PC players enjoy because the console OS is still horribly restricted in comparison to Windows. MS/Sony/Nintendo control virtually everything that happens on their consoles.
At that point, you might as well just buy a mid range PC and plug a controller into it.
Well one could make the same argument about cars as well. You could look at someone spending money to modify a 90's toyota and go, "Well that's just a waste of money, if they want to go fast they should just by a porsche or a corvette, or a new subaru."
You could be right, but at the same time, if a person doesn't want to deal with a computers operating system but wants a hardware upgrade to improve their games graphics, then that's their prerogative.
No matter what though, it's idiotic to outlaw modification of consoles. Especially since most of these mods are being done for a customer-per-customer formula, not being mass produced to upset the market at large. It is, very much so, like outlawing modifying a PC or a car.
It is, very much so, like outlawing modifying a PC or a car.
Well, GM and other car manufacturers are trying to do that.
Hmm. I'm considering forming a new nation on U.S. soil that is about 1500 sq ft in size. This nation will survive by rerouting cable/internet from people who neighbor the territory and via the King/Queen (whoever pays the bills) who will exercise their diplomatic immunity by "requisitioning" supplies from the nearest Walmart. Bingo and potluck will be (optional) on Friday's which would be referred to as Freedom days.
Anyone interested in joining? 
Yep. It's illegal. You peasants want to mod legally, go to PC. And quit lecturing about piracy, which is rampant on console.
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