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[Sifr]

Not to nitpick, but I think you're mistaking Paragon dialogue for general dialogue there. Renegade urges Anderson that they should stick together... but wants to leave. Paragon wants to stick around.

 

Ah, my mistake, I tend to play Paragon over Renegade, since RenShep's characterisation tends to be all over the shop.

 

Paragon is mostly consistent, whereas RenShep often seems to be really unclear how much of a jerk they want to be at any given moment... which I suppose is consistent if you headcanon that this version of Shepard is unstable, but does make me wonder how such a person hasn't been CAT6'd out of the Alliance already?

 

I forgot to mention them. Thane and Samara are very interesting... old souls is a good word. I never romanced either one though.. they feel like mentors almost to me.

 

I never saw Shepard as war weary until it was railroaded a bit in ME3 though. Talking to Grunt in ME2 gives some roleplaying room on this. Paragon is the one that tells him all of the fighting and war needs to end one day. Grunt disrespects him after that, and says he isn't going to go out with a whimper like Shepard. Renegade tells Grunt his killer-attitude is what's going to save the galaxy.

 

Yeah, ME3 was where it started to show up a lot more often.

 

RP-wise, might be because ME1 and ME2 were mad dashes to save the galaxy but very few people (although far too many) ended up dying, so Shepard could handle the pressure. The sheer scope of the Reapers waging total extinction on everyone, everywhere in ME3 however simply was too much to process, especially how everyone is giving the "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope" speech to them on the QEC.

[TheViper8234]

For me default femshep is hawt,I love redheads.

[Lady Artifice]

You know, I've thought about this before. I think default M!Shep looks, sounds and acts too "generic action hero" for me in a lot of ways. In total opposition to M!Hawke, who I find positively irresistible. A lot of that is due to voice acting (Nicholas Boulton's voice is irresistible).

 

I might be drawn to a truly Paragon Shepard if I saw them do some of the more Paragon things, but Renegade generally comes off as erratic and thuggish to me (Again, in contrast to "Renegade" Aggressive and ruthless Hawke, who still seems intelligent and cunning). I might admire a Paragon Shepard, but I doubt I would be vying for their romantic attention. 

[Sifr]

lol. I always see him more like Bruce Willis in Die Hard. Maybe a jerk, but he pulls through in the end. He always does the right thing, more or less... even if he isn't pleasant. At least that's how I play it. I can't stand Paragon in one-to-one encounters, but I tend to like some Paragon on epic decisions. So I'm not a full Renegade.

 

So yeah... maybe that's why he's not Cat 6'ed. There's also a line in ME2 that sums it up, from the Asari cop. "You're not big on the charm, but you get the job done." 

 

I go pure Paragon, but I like to keep Garrus around to be the Paragade that s/he can't.

 

(Why else does Superman need Batman so often)

[Lady Artifice]

In most cases, Renegade probably is a thug. Especially if you pick Earthborn. Then he's a literal thug. Or ex-thug rather (but like Finch says.. "You never leave the life..").

 

When I've played M!Shep, it's always Earthborn. I actually really dig that background for him. 

 

My female Shep is always a Colonist. I think it's just a matter of what I "feel" and identify with. I also play female more on the Paragon side and male more on the Renegade side. There's a certain freedom in identifying with the protagonist less that has that effect in every RPG I play. 

 

The only one I don't really play is Spacer. Do you have a favorite? 

[aoibhealfae]

lol, good stuff going on around here but still not conclusive enough to determine why BroShep is such a chick magnet. I mean, let's look to other non-LIs who are attracted to Shepard.

• The instant when Sha'ira saw Shepard coming into her room, she starts to rub herself against Shepard's body (without permission) and then granted Shepard sex once her missions was completed.
• ME2's Parasini and Shiala, two women who Shepard helped in ME1, who Shepard help again as a small favor and to me, all of the conversation sounds like old acquaintances chatting. But both end sequences ended with both of them offering suggestive look as they leave as if promising something neither of them talk about anything suggestive.
• Morinth who became attracted to Shepard like a moth to a flame after you accomplish several tasks, and be cabout the things she's interested in and she was all about climbing on top of Shepard which is too fast for a predator who like the chase and the attention before the final kill. Again, another one who fall for Shepard's charms.
• After you let her kill Petrovsky, suddenly Aria pulled Shepard and kissed him and then shyly look away as if embarrassed. Another instantaneous attraction.
• Diana Allers who keep sashaying into and out of Shepard's room, no matter how formal you try to be with her. She's an NPC who was upgraded to LI level after you only talk to her four times for her interviews and already she was prepared to sleep with you.

All of them only see you as desirable once you've accomplished something for them. Maybe that made sense in a video games where you are accomplish a series of tasks and always rewarded with something. Most of these sudden display of sexual attraction occur even if Shepard was on a romance path with someone else. (And as a woman, these are not how you get all the ladies to your yard. If you're interested to them as more than just friends, don't do favors and expect them to develop feelings on a whim because you did a grand gesture or something. Even Shepard says, "You need chemistry." aih...)

 

Maybe it was faltering to Shepard's ego but they always look off to me, especially with a gay BroShep. He must think "not this again..."

[Arcian]

Redheads. I love redheads.

[Mineko]

In the particular case of Aria, I think it's power that attracts her. Power is what moves her on her life, and she senses the power Shepard has right from the beginning, when they meet in Omega on ME2.

[aoibhealfae]

When I've played M!Shep, it's always Earthborn. I actually really dig that background for him. 

 

My female Shep is always a Colonist. I think it's just a matter of what I "feel" and identify with. I also play female more on the Paragon side and male more on the Renegade side. There's a certain freedom in identifying with the protagonist less that has that effect in every RPG I play. 

 

The only one I don't really play is Spacer. Do you have a favorite? 

 

I've only finished Earthborn/Ruthless, Spacer/SoleSurvivor and Colonist/SoleSurvivor. I've tried Spacer/War Hero combo and I found out that I never like NPCs comments about Shepard being born into the role and being a hero of all things. Its too unbelievable especially for a Paragon Shepard, being too perfect and all. But I might try that combo again as a Renegade.

 

I considered my Colonist/Sole Survivor FemSheps as my personal canon. Shepard was a teenage girl who had her entire world change in one great tragedy. She lost her family and a home. She was broken and eventually she pick up pieces and found refuge with the Alliance. Then she suffered another tragedy and escaped with a renewed fear that whenever she felt like she found a home, fate take it away from her. Soon she became an accomplished soldier and a leader and found herself in a comfortable place in her career but everything changed again. The prothean visions branded her with the end of days and again the world fall apart around her but she kept herself together. Along the way she found true friends and someone special to her. She fought and became victorious. But when she thought things would finally get better... she died. Then she woke up and found out that she lost everything again; she lost two years of her life, she lost Normandy, she lost her career, she became shackled by her sworn duty to defeat the reapers and she had to ally with the enemy who have something to do with one of her past tragedy, nobody believe in her anymore, some of her friends moved on and she lose the love of her life.

Life taught her that the moment she get something, she would lose everything over and over again. She was the most unluckiest person in the galaxy, fate is always a b*tch to her and she's too stubborn to believe that everything was set in the stones so she do what she does best; fight to survive and live to tell the tale. She is a character who was always in the verge of breaking apart at any moment and she's not 'strong' as she appears to be. She doesn't feel herself entitled to have every men or women she met just because she saved their lives or because she's a woman. I don't even see herself entitled to whatever role she has whether if she is a Commander or a Spectre or the savior of the galaxy. Except for her rank as a Commander, it always feel like she's forced into the role of the other two. I guess this is why she appeal to me because she is truly an admirable person (who I believe in dire need of love) and I don't even have to blindly believe that she have this 'hero aura' around her. I always thought she thinks that was crap.

[CathyMe]

^That was great . But, yeah, the Colonist/Sole Survivor might as well be called "Sucks to be you, Shepard". Like you, I like to overthink my Shepard's background , except my canon is an Earthborn/Warhero renegon. She has a good heart, but her parents abandoned her when she was little, and she had a harsh life on the streets because of it, so now it is behind a thick wall of ice. She learned to be tough, and whenever life throws something at her, just suck it up and move on. The world will never care about her, and she had years to accept it. And just like on Elysium, she might have been mean to people, but in the end she saved anyone she could, which got her killed, proving to her that "no good deed goes unpunished". When she was brought back, she wasn't surprised, nor did she mind that most people she knew moved on, since she never believed they cared about her in the first place. But she was surprised at how two of those people, who had more reason do distrust her, are the only ones who believed in her, and even more surprised when she fell in love with on of them ,but she wouldn't admit it outright , not until way later anyway. If people would tell her she has a "hero aura" she would laugh in their face. She is too cynical and jaded to believe such a childish notion, but is also what makes her suited for the job: she can deal with the stress.

Hmm, I think "Knight in Sour Armor" sums up my Shepard best.

P.S: I might be weird, but this combo also gives me vibes of a person climbing the ranks through hard work.

[Ambivalent]

Interesting subject.

 

As a shallow person i think it is because "Hero gets hot chicks" cliche. Or you can say "A powerful woman can get anything she desires" 

 

It shouldn't be about personality because you can end up full renegade and have same relationship with a full paragon person vice versa.

 

Influence and power? Can be and that leads to my "shallow" answer above.

[aoibhealfae]

eheheheh... I wrote FemShep/Kaidan ME2's DLC-like fanfic for Camp NaNoWriMo last month and recently I'm down with a flu and suddenly I have a new inspiration about some of the plots. I've been restructuring and rewriting the story so character analysis really came easy for me  I was thinking about FemShep through the eyes of someone who loves her.... and then I tried to think BroShep objectively with me looking at him as a potential LI... I hit a brick wall

 

 

Interesting subject.

 

As a shallow person i think it is because "Hero gets hot chicks" cliche. Or you can say "A powerful woman can get anything she desires" 

 

It shouldn't be about personality because you can end up full renegade and have same relationship with a full paragon person vice versa.

 

Influence and power? Can be and that leads to my "shallow" answer above.

That could work. Depends on how you play as renegade I guess. I like renegade-mance Kaidan and it turns out really well. 

[Kurt M.]

Gay here, and MaleShep would be a....nice date. Nice, but not great. Sure, his looks are awesome, and he's got guts, which is a thing I really like, but his personality is....."reserved", to say the least. He has his moments, but I feel like I wouldn't connect with him as much as I'd with James (almost perfect man IMO).

 

Kaidan has a great personality, too, and he's a fellow biotic (my cannon class is Vanguard), but I hate his hair

[Mister J]

As hard as I have tried to make female Shepard look good, I always found her less attractive than Ashley, Kasumi and Miranda. So, had I been Kaidan or James or whatever I would try to date any of those first...

[Kynare]

Interesting subject.

 

As a shallow person i think it is because "Hero gets hot chicks" cliche. Or you can say "A powerful woman can get anything she desires" 

 

It shouldn't be about personality because you can end up full renegade and have same relationship with a full paragon person vice versa.

 

Influence and power? Can be and that leads to my "shallow" answer above.

 

Pretty much this. FemShep never felt like a dude magnet in ME2 for me, though. I actually found her a bit pushy/desperate during most of the romance dialogues in that game. I don't regret staying loyal to Kaidan. He brings out my favorite traits about FemShep.

 

To answer the initial question, I wouldn't date Shepard. Just doesn't seem feasible, since we're technically at two completely different points in our lives, and we don't share the same interests (ie. I do not kill Reapers for a living)

[Ambivalent]

I just realised while i tried to contribute subject i totally dodged question.

 

Hmm now as a male PoV and not talking about looks etc.

 

I'd hate wait for Shephard's "so important galaxy saving business" to finish and i'd totally tell her instead of chasing repears and stuff. try something more "human", more "acceptable" as line of work.

 

And she'd probably renegade interrupt me so well honeymoon is over. Break up.

 

I'm not a female or gay but well it doesn't stop me to talk about other side.

 

If i was interested in male Shep again i'd probably try to convince him to drop that "dangerous path" but wouldn't insist much.

 

He saves the day, being hero and i'd be his Victoria Beckham. Kinda. Talking to press about him, how we met, how i was proud of him, how hard was it to wait for his return, how hard to raise our children etc. Having a few friends in celebrity area, a few scandals here and there. Good for advertisement.

 

So in short while FemShep is definetely hard relationship in common sense, BroShep seems bearable.

[von uber]

Aria doesn't find Broshep attractive. She's definitely a one for femshep.

Shame she wasn't a real li, that could have been excellent building from me2 and a great alternative to liara.

[Massa FX]

I would date broShep and if I were a lesbian, I'd date FemShep. 

 

Absolutely. 

 

I'm attracted to guys that are take-charge, get the job done and don't whine.  I'm an Air Force brat and all my brothers were in the military. Special breed. Honorable. Shepard is a 10 out of 10 to me.

 

I wouldn't be bothered that he was away most of the time and died a lot. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

But this doesn't explain why everyone want Shepard. What qualities that make him/her desirable to almost everyone they met?

 

Well, Jack tells my Shep that he is weird and that it gets her off.

 

I'll grant you that she will say that to every/any Shep that triggers that dialogue, but, it fits with what I was doing.

 

Not to mention that my Shepard is pretty dashing (well, before ME3, at any rate). I daresay better than Sheploo.