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This is by far the worst challenge to date


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Dick Dastardly

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New players should be starting out in Routine.


I'm not talking fresh out of the box newer players. I'm talking about players who have a couple of characters up to 20 who have played Routine and are attempting to move onto Threatening (their still new players)

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And Routine will still be hard for them with this challenge.

 

Personally I find the challenge fun, but I can see the issue.


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I kinda like it actually. I am a completely new player, and this weekend extracting on threatening has become a REAL challenge for me. It pushes you to your limits and forces you to explore class synergies. My best results so far has come from pairing two barrier classes, one preferably a virtuoso. It is what a "weekend challenge" should/could be about imo. 


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This challenge was easy I walked through it with my team on perilous like 8 times in a row. /s

Still it should be an optional choice for each map.

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This challenge is awesome. It changed it up a bit. Is there no pleasing BSNers? I even got 2 freebie chests with one dragon's call each. Wasn't expected, but much appreciated. THANK YOU BIOWARE. I heart you.
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Eh, it was a new challenge type so I enjoyed it. I was surprised at how quickly the PC community challenge was completed, though.



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I kinda like it actually. I am a completely new player, and this weekend extracting on threatening has become a REAL challenge for me. It pushes you to your limits and forces you to explore class synergies. My best results so far has come from pairing two barrier classes, one preferably a virtuoso. It is what a "weekend challenge" should/could be about imo. 

I disagree, a weekend challenge shouldn't limit you in terms of what kit you need to use but unfortunately it does, A barrier kit is almost necessary on higher difficulties due to the amount of archers and despair demons hitting you without any line of sight. I would suggest trying a run without any barrier kits, I found it extremely annoying personally playing as a Legionnaire simply because the Despair demons would jump away when ever I tried to get close.  



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Eh, it was a new challenge type so I enjoyed it. I was surprised at how quickly the PC community challenge was completed, though.

 

Im not. The weekend challenges are either completed ridiculously fast (one evening max) or we dont even get to the second star. Again, this just proves how little thought bioware puts into making these challenges. 



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I disagree, a weekend challenge shouldn't limit you in terms of what kit you need to use but unfortunately it does, A barrier kit is almost necessary on higher difficulties due to the amount of archers and despair demons hitting you without any line of sight. I would suggest trying a run without any barrier kits, I found it extremely annoying personally playing as a Legionnaire simply because the Despair demons would jump away when ever I tried to get close.  

That's cool. It's a fair opinion. I ran most of the challenge on Threatening and Peri using an Avvar.


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This challenge is awesome. It changed it up a bit. Is there no pleasing BSNers? I even got 2 freebie chests with one dragon's call each. Wasn't expected, but much appreciated. THANK YOU BIOWARE. I heart you.

I'm sorry that my tastes are different to yours - I personally don't like getting flipped around like a pancake by enemies who have no line of sight on me. Just so you know I completed this challenge after a couple of Perilous and Threatening games, I didn't say it was hard for me but annoying. I could however see it being difficult for new players who lack the same equipment as me.



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I'm sorry that my tastes are different to yours - I personally don't like flipped around like a pancake by enemies who have no line of sight on me. Just so you know I completed this challenge after a couple of Perilous and Threatening games, I didn't say it was hard for me but annoying. I could however see it being difficult for new players who lack the same equipment as me.


And there is a newbie on here saying they liked it. If you don't like the challenge, you aren't obligated to play it. It'll reset to the old soon enough. This isn't nearly as bad as the geth, the ultimate troll faction. This challenge is good because so many have uber equipment---it's easy to kill enemies, so there has to be some kind of disadvantage to the player in order to make it more difficult. And this is temporary---its not like they added geth bombers permanently.

People looking for a "challenge", whatever that means to them, won't likely find what their looking for in damp. There are plenty of pvp games to choose from. Damp aint it. And I'm glad.
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And there is a newbie on here saying they liked it. If you don't like the challenge, you aren't obligated to play it. It'll reset to the old soon enough. This isn't nearly as bad as the geth, the ultimate troll faction. This challenge is good because so many have uber equipment---it's easy to kill enemies, so there has to be some kind of disadvantage to the player in order to make it more difficult. And this is temporary---its not like they added geth bombers permanently.

People looking for a "challenge", whatever that means to them, won't likely find what their looking for in damp. There are plenty of pvp games to choose from. Damp aint it. And I'm glad.

And does he/she speak for all new players? As I said I have already done the 'Challenge' it didn't take me long to do, but it certainly wasn't fun. A newer player experiencing Threatening for the first time might be severely put off thanks to this challenge.

 

I'm not sure why your bringing up pvp games? I didn't specify what game types I like, the fact that i'm on here posting about this game should tell you that I at least have some interest in it. It's pathetic to suggest I should go and play a PVP game just because I don't like this weeks challenge.  



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And there is a newbie on here saying they liked it. If you don't like the challenge, you aren't obligated to play it. It'll reset to the old soon enough. This isn't nearly as bad as the geth, the ultimate troll faction. This challenge is good because so many have uber equipment---it's easy to kill enemies, so there has to be some kind of disadvantage to the player in order to make it more difficult. And this is temporary---its not like they added geth bombers permanently.

People looking for a "challenge", whatever that means to them, won't likely find what their looking for in damp. There are plenty of pvp games to choose from. Damp aint it. And I'm glad.

I've spoken to 5-6 new players that have voiced otherwise, 1 player is not representative of all newer DAIMP players.



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I have a strong dislike of this week's challenge simply because it only accounts for personal kills.  Which is not very conducive towards teamplay.  The amount of people I saw charging ahead so they could take the specific unit kills was ridiculous.  It was especially bad when they would get themselves killed charging off alone.  I had one real bad match today where I had to solo several zones simply because of people acting like selfish idiots.

 

I find it a bit astonishing that Bioware is still making this mistake, even after they have the dragons defeated challenge only account for the killing blow.


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And does he/she speak for all new players? As I said I have already done the 'Challenge' it didn't take me long to do, but it certainly wasn't fun. A newer player experiencing Threatening for the first time might be severely put off thanks to this challenge.
 
I'm not sure why your bringing up pvp games? I didn't specify what game types I like, the fact that i'm on here posting about this game should tell you that I at least have some interest in it. It's pathetic to suggest I should go and play a PVP game just because I don't like this weeks challenge.


So why are all of you advanced players speaking for newbies? Let them speak. Just because it isn't fun for YOU doesn't mean it isn't fun for others. I'm willing to bet you're a better player than me and probably more experienced. I'm not nearly as good as a lot of people on BSN and I am having fun with this challenge. *shrug*

The second paragraph was to the general forumship. There's quite a few who believe that damp isn't challenging. I consider that bragwhining.

There was a challenge here I wasn't able to complete---it was X matches on perilous. I don't recall anyone complaining about that at the time. I wonder why?

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It is pretty bad. Fortunately for me, I'm trying to get the Arcane Warrior banner, so I'm not feeling most of it. Still, zone 4 of Fereldan Castle sees me staggered so much I have to use Fade Step/Fade Cloak just to get near the mages, and I'm definitely seeing people die when they normally wouldn't.

 

Additionally, Gathering Storm sometimes doesn't seem to work with Pride Demons. Does it only proc if you deal damage to an enemy's health pool?



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I have a strong dislike of this week's challenge simply because it only accounts for personal kills.  Which is not very conducive towards teamplay.  The amount of people I saw charging ahead so they could take the specific unit kills was ridiculous.  It was especially bad when they would get themselves killed charging off alone.  I had one real bad match today where I had to solo several zones simply because of people acting like selfish idiots.

 

I find it a bit astonishing that Bioware is still making this mistake, even after they have the dragons defeated challenge only account for the killing blow.

This. It's like, oh snap a venatori mage over in the back, GET HIM!!!!! In theory it's fine, but in practice it's causing a lot of unnecessary wipes.



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So why are all of you advanced players speaking for newbies? Let them speak. Just because it isn't fun for YOU doesn't mean it isn't fun for others. I'm willing to bet you're a better player than me and probably more experienced. I'm not nearly as good as a lot of people on BSN and I am having fun with this challenge. *shrug*

The second paragraph was to the general forumship. There's quite a few who believe that damp isn't challenging. I consider that bragwhining.

There was a challenge here I wasn't able to complete---it was X matches on perilous. I don't recall anyone complaining about that at the time. I wonder why?

The players I talked to said they weren't interested in going on the forums, which is actually quite common among new players. I'm still able to go through threatening and perilous games actually, it's just a shame it's been made harder for newer players with less gear/promotions.

 

Perilous games are somewhat manageable, when you're being spammed with stunlocking abilities to the point where you can't move let alone drop a barrier it get's a bit ridiculous. It's a really cheap way of increasing the difficulty.



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So why are all of you advanced players speaking for newbies? Let them speak. Just because it isn't fun for YOU doesn't mean it isn't fun for others. I'm willing to bet you're a better player than me and probably more experienced. I'm not nearly as good as a lot of people on BSN and I am having fun with this challenge. *shrug*

The second paragraph was to the general forumship. There's quite a few who believe that damp isn't challenging. I consider that bragwhining.

There was a challenge here I wasn't able to complete---it was X matches on perilous. I don't recall anyone complaining about that at the time. I wonder why?

What are you talking about!?! I have given my opinion and said I dislike this challenge, I then eluded to the fact that many new players will find this challenge frustrating and difficult. Am I not allowed to give my opinion now? 

 

Your coming across as a complete fanboy just because someone has criticised something in this game, guess what, I dont like this challenge, many of my friends dont like this challenge and as someone else has said many of the new players dont like it either. 

 

Like many on here I would not consider DAMP to be dependent on any form of skill, it's all about gear and promotions, if a new player doesn't have the right gear or promotions then they will likely struggle. You have made a number of ridiculous assumptions that has made you look like an idiot - I wasnt complaining about the challenge being difficult for myself, I said it wasn't enjoyable - Saying I should play a pvp game because I dont like this week's challenge is moronic. 

 

I simply asked for an option so that we can play normal Perilous/Threatening etc rather than being forced to play this weeks challenge, that's the key thing here - with other challenges a player could simply ignore them if they didnt want to do them, this isnt the case. 


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I found this challenge extremely easy. Like scary easy, and when I first saw this thread, I thought it was in regard to the ease of the challenge. Needless to say I was surprised to see people claiming it was hard. I actually finished this challenge in three games. Very easy.

 

Since I got HOK, crit ring chance and superb amulet of cooldown, my Hunter is OP. He just tears through everything, especially mages and demons.



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Annoyance =\= challenge. Chasing a despair demon while his 5 brothers knock me on the ground from around the corner isn't fun, it isn't challenging, its just annoying. If they fixed then LoS issues on despair demons so you can actually see and attack them before they can put you on your back it would be different, but as it is its not fun. I'm not new to the game, I don't have 100s or 1000s of promotions like some people and I don't have all the BiS gear but I have enough that I never have issues on routine or threatening even if I end up solo but this challenge has me wanting to put the game away till Monday.

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Annoyance =\= challenge. Chasing a despair demon while his 5 brothers knock me on the ground from around the corner isn't fun, it isn't challenging, its just annoying. If they fixed then LoS issues on despair demons so you can actually see and attack them before they can put you on your back it would be different, but as it is its not fun. I'm not new to the game, I don't have 100s or 1000s of promotions like some people and I don't have all the BiS gear but I have enough that I never have issues on routine or threatening even if I end up solo but this challenge has me wanting to put the game away till Monday.


Thank you! A lot of people are mistaking annoyance for difficulty which simply isnt the case
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Thank you! A lot of people are mistaking annoyance for difficulty which simply isnt the case

This.



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Not like new players are going to get anything decent in their free chest anyway ;)

 

Let them struggle, coz soon they gonna be complaining about it being too easy.

 

AMIRITE?


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Not like new players are going to get anything decent in their free chest anyway ;)

Touché.