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[N7Hax0r]

Look at the Geth Juggernaut. He's big, he's slow, and he's tough. He's got a lot of shields, and can do a lot of damage. He's also invincible. His heavy melee has the ability to regenerate his shields so fast that through the push of a button, platinum banshees become tickle monsters, brutes become teddy bears, and phantoms become cute little girls. Now look at this sorry excuse of a class they call a "Warlord". He's big, he's slow, and he's tough. He has lower shields than the juggernaut, but he can pump out a lot of damage with his melee attacks, and his abilities can set him up to do ungodly amounts of damage in a single swing of his hammer. About like Thor, if Thor were a pissed off alien with four testicles. Doesn't sound too bad does it? One has a lot of health, and the other can do a lot of damage. Just one problem. The Warlord's main damage dealer is his melee, however he lacks one essential ability that the Juggernaut has that makes him so powerful. Sync-kill immunity. All it takes is one phantom to bring this powerful "Warlord" down for an entire wave. This makes him about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. To rub it in, they gave him the ability to sprint, so he can *flee* from the very angry banshee coming at him that desires nothing more than to rip him a new *******.
So I ask you. Why would we bother with him when the juggernaut can fit the same role, put out a lot of damage, and be virtually invincible, when this supposed "Warlord" can't even take a little love squeeze from a brute.

[Deerber]

Bad puggernaut spotted.

[nat in the hat]

Because if you know how to play him he is extremely powerful

[MajorStupidity]

The warlord has a motherfudging hammer deal with it puggernaut.

[ClydeInTheShell]

I'm gonna answer this as if I'm telling you something you don't already know. 

 

A good Warlord knows how NOT to get sync killed. Whether by using the hammer at the right time, by keeping distance and attacking when appropriate (which you should be able to do with all characters) or TECH ARMOR!!!!, the Krogan Warlord is no different from any other no-dodge character with regard to avoiding sync kills. 

 

Furthermore, keeping your Rage up will nullify your need for copious amounts of shields; Rage is that power that gives you damage reduction and accelerated health regeneration the more enemies you smack to death. Enemies can't kill you if they're dead. 

 

tl;dr - if you can't Warlord, stop using the Juggernaut so much and l2p. 

[Heldarion]

So I ask you. Why would we bother with him when the juggernaut can fit the same role, put out a lot of damage, and be virtually invincible, when this supposed "Warlord" can't even take a little love squeeze from a brute.

Let me ask you this: why do people bother with kits other than GI and guns other than Reegar?

[Excella Gionne]

My Juggernaut is a vanguard thus she is better than your Jugg, 'cause she got Juggs and brings all of the geths to her yard.

[N7Hax0r]

I'm gonna answer this as if I'm telling you something you don't already know. 
 
A good Warlord knows how NOT to get sync killed. Whether by using the hammer at the right time, by keeping distance and attacking when appropriate (which you should be able to do with all characters) or TECH ARMOR!!!!, the Krogan Warlord is no different from any other no-dodge character with regard to avoiding sync kills. 
 
Furthermore, keeping your Rage up will nullify your need for copious amounts of shields; Rage is that power that gives you damage reduction and accelerated health regeneration the more enemies you smack to death. Enemies can't kill you if they're dead. 
 
tl;dr - if you can't Warlord, stop using the Juggernaut so much and l2p.

Oh look, someone who actually has something constructive to say. One, the hammer animation doesn't stop sync-kills. Two, he's a melee oriented character, so he is different than other no-dodge characters as you have to get close if you want to maximize your damage against bosses. And you're right. Damage reduction and health regeneration is great, but you're nowhere near as durable as the juggernaut, and they don't help much against instant deaths. He's great for mooks and that's about it. But again I ask. Why bother? The juggernaut can do it better with less effort. You don't even need to learn how to use him. You just heavy melee everything. That's why he's one of the most overused classes.

[nat in the hat]

This is an alt troll account

[ClydeInTheShell]

Oh look, someone who actually has something constructive to say. But again I ask. Why bother? The juggernaut can do it better. So why bother? You don't even need to learn how to use him. You just heavy melee everything. That's why he's one of the most overused classes.

I do agree that he's one of the most overused classes; a lot of new players need a ticket to platinum, and he's it.

 

However, if you think the Juggernaut's heavy melee is better than the Warlord obliterating sh*t with the hammer, then we have nothing further to discuss.

[Swan Killer]

Does your name start with an "L" and ends with "ucky Starr"?

[N7Hax0r]

This is an alt troll account

What, a dude can't make a post about how useless the warlord is in comparison with other classes without being a troll?

[Jelena Jankovic]

I see where we are going

 

have a pointless gif to go with your pointless post

 

[Terminator Force]

Both Spitfire and melee focus Warlord is Sinful's fave way to play the Warlord; http://kalence.drupa...13Y51364!G8.A8H Just wave your magic wand every now and then to get your Blood Rage back up. Extra Ops Pack is a Spitfire's best friend, because sometimes you just want to Rambo in the middle of everything and Ops Pack use does not interrupt a winded up Spitfire. Unlike Stimpacks which do, because just say no to drugs.

 

If Sinful is in the mood for more heavy melee action, he replaces the Mag mod for an Omniblade. Then proceeds to put on Michael Jacksons "Beat It" as background music.  

[N7Hax0r]

I do agree that he's one of the most overused classes; a lot of new players need a ticket to platinum, and he's it.
 
However, if you think the Juggernaut's heavy melee is better than the Warlord obliterating sh*t with the hammer, then we have nothing further to discuss.

His heavy melee makes him invincible, though. The warlord damage output beats him by miles but ****, that doesn't matter much when you're immortal.

[Deerber]

Let me ask you this: why do people bother with kits other than GI and guns other than Reegar?

 

... Because they don't go well together?

[MajorStupidity]

The juggy takes so long to kill enemies, and no he is not invulnerable go play gold solo and just sit and melee see how long you last when absolutely everything is attacking you let alone on platinum. Warlord is durable enough considering his high damage reduction (Tech armor + Rage) and health regeneration that as long as you avoid synckill he might as well be invulnerable because he can actually kill enemies quick enough to not be completely overwhelmed.

 

Even if he was inferior (and he is most certainly not) I would play him because he is more enjoyable, and if you know what you are doing he is a pretty easy class to play with.

[Olivia Wilde]

My Warlord packs a PPR, just because you see bad PUGs getting sync'ed every other wave doesn't mean people who have some smarts can't avoid getting sync'ed and don't know to not just try to hammer everything in sight.

 

There are more bad Juggernaut players than bad Warlord players

 

There are more bad Juggernaut players than total Warlord players whether good or bad

[N7Hax0r]

The juggy takes so long to kill enemies, and no he is not invulnerable go play gold solo and just sit and melee see how long you last when absolutely everything is attacking you let alone on platinum. Warlord is durable enough considering his high damage reduction (Tech armor + Rage) and health regeneration that as long as you avoid synckill he might as well be invulnerable because he can actually kill enemies quick enough to not be completely overwhelmed.
 
Even if he was inferior (and he is most certainly not) I would play him because he is more enjoyable, and if you know what you are doing he is a pretty easy class to play with.

I do, otherwise I would not make the claim that he's invincible. I try not to exaggerate. And yes, he does minimal melee damage, but, as I've said, he is quite the tank. And, when combined with a team, even if your team are terrible pugs, you just have to stand there and soak up damage and you slice through platinum like warm butter. Can't really say the same for the warlord. While you may put out a lot of damage, you're still restricted by your overall durability. When you get to the point that you have 3 or 4 bosses hovering around you, the odds of you getting sync'd rises exponentially.

[N7Hax0r]

My Warlord packs a PPR, just because you see bad PUGs getting sync'ed every other wave doesn't mean people who have some smarts can't avoid getting gsync'ed and don't know to not just try to hammer everything in sight.
 
There are more bad Juggernaut players than bad Warlord players
 
There are more bad Juggernaut players than total Warlord players whether good or bad

There are going to be bad players for every class. But just because some folks can make the battlefield 3 soldier work in platinum doesn't mean that character is particularly suited for it. Like you said, there's more juggernaut players out there than warlord players, and that's my point. The juggernaut is so much easier to play, so more people play him. There's no point in playing the warlord when he feels like an inferior class. He feels like a character that you'd stop playing after silver. The point I'm making is that the warlord should either be brought up to the same level as the juggernaut, or the juggernaut brought down.

[MajorStupidity]

I can finish a match with either the Juggy or warlord and it will be a breeze. However, with the juggy it takes 30 minutes while with the warlord it takes 20. I also have much more fun running around hitting things with a hammer than walking around force choking everything. If I play the juggy I put the lancer on him with incendiary ammo and use siege pulse as a detonator. Melee juggy takes an absurd amount of time to kill enemies I can kill much faster with another kit. And no I am not going to rely on my team to handle killing everything so I can sit around playing decoy.

[Dalakaar]

What, a dude can't make a post about how useless the warlord is in comparison with other classes without being a troll?

Well. No. No you can't. Now you mention it.

[A Pyros Son]

The KroLord is a great character to play especially against Geth. The electric hammer is awesome and if you follow it up with biotic hammer to kill armor it's lights out.

[Excella Gionne]

Primes are still better. They have a much bigger e-dong.