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[Necromega]

Just played with several AWs since the latest update, and I am getting very frustrated. Now they just use SB over and over but do little to no damage. Yes now they are able to barrier themselves again, but they have no clue there are other abilities. They just stand there and swing SB but aren't doing $&@! for damage. Please learn to play or choose a different class! Thanks!

[Ploidz]

Set up you own games with your own team. They can do what they want.

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

Scrubs gonna scrub man,nothing you can do but carry or play with friends.

[AlmightyCarrot]

I don't think that SB is completely useless now, I have a build that I fairly enjoy that includes fade step,chain lightning, fade cloak and sb. even though auto attacking is superior to sb in terms of single target dps sb is still superior in aoe considering that it hits several targets and it can also damage ranges characters that attack you if you upgrade it, so overall in terms of total damage output in certain situations sb can be even superior to auto attacking (also I don't know why but it seems that gathering storm works now with sb, probably not but I feel that my cooldowns are much faster than they should be)  

 

Btw I've always preferred sb AW than caster AW, sb is what makes that class special among other mages, the fact that you can fight in melee range as a mage really appeals to me, It breaks the norm of your orthodox everyday "mage" who sits back and casts spells. 

[Minuos]

Unless you're in melee range of something with a barrier, or (maybe) the storm dragon, Spirit Blade is terrible. Even considering AoE damage, you'd be better off using staff attacks to reduce the cooldowns of other, better abilities.

[AlmightyCarrot]

Well, what can I say? my opinion is unpopular but I really enjoy my current build, and I'll be damned before I turn into those "far away casting" arcane warrior pansies, it never failed me so far and lets be honest, (to me atleast) auto attacking in melee range while some pride demon is attack you is just awkward looking...

[BreakJohn]

spirit blade was pretty lackluster after the first nerf, now its just sad. take stonefist from now on if you are trying to do aoe damage. you'll be getting it insanely fast anyways due to gathering storm. 

[Laforgus]

Just played with several AWs since the latest update, and I am getting very frustrated. Now they just use SB over and over but do little to no damage. Yes now they are able to barrier themselves again, but they have no clue there are other abilities. They just stand there and swing SB but aren't doing $&@! for damage. Please learn to play or choose a different class! Thanks!

 

Where is Kenny, its about time we saw the Supervisor thing....

[Minuos]

Well, what can I say? my opinion is unpopular but I really enjoy my current build, and I'll be damned before I turn into those "far away casting" arcane warrior pansies, it never failed me so far and lets be honest, (to me atleast) auto attacking in melee range while some pride demon is attack you is just awkward looking...

 

If it works for you, fair enough. I replace Spirit Blade with Stone Fist for the weakening splash damage, sleep and low cooldown. Spirit Blade's barrier generation isn't enough for my play-style anymore (which is definitely not far away casting).

[J. Peterman]

Where is Kenny, its about time we saw the Supervisor thing....

 

Kenny has taken a "vacation".

[AlmightyCarrot]

If it works for you, fair enough. I replace Spirit Blade with Stone Fist for the weakening splash damage, sleep and low cooldown. Spirit Blade's barrier generation isn't enough for my play-style anymore (which is definitely not far away casting).

Let's just say I'll use all of the skills in my previously mentioned build except I'll replace sb with stone fist, with the amount of spells I can use (not to mention faster cd since I'm AAing) won't my mana run out really fast?(limiting me to use one skill until the next hard encounter) even if I am in melee range for the mana regen buff?

[BreakJohn]

Let's just say I'll use all of the skills in my previously mentioned build except I'll replace sb with stone fist, with the amount of spells I can use (not to mention faster cd since I'm AAing) won't my mana run out really fast?(limiting me to use one skill until the next hard encounter) even if I am in melee range for the mana regen buff?

 

thats the great thing about AAs they keep your mana up for all the abilities you need. sure you won't be used to the mana management at first but with a little practice it won't be a problem after a few games.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Kenny has taken a "vacation".

 

 

Someone left a Flamer running next to him all night, and the results were inescapable.

[Minuos]

Let's just say I'll use all of the skills in my previously mentioned build except I'll replace sb with stone fist, with the amount of spells I can use (not to mention faster cd since I'm AAing) won't my mana run out really fast?(limiting me to use one skill until the next hard encounter) even if I am in melee range for the mana regen buff?

 

Restorative Veil passive. Use upgraded Stone Fist to weaken enemies, then concentrate your attacks on them to regain mana. It's kind of buggy at times, but it's worth trying. Typically (for me), Stone Fist -> Chain Lightning/Fade Step to initiate, with Fade Cloak to recover from being knocked down as well as rebuild barrier on a nearby enemy. 

[scynn]

Let's just say I'll use all of the skills in my previously mentioned build except I'll replace sb with stone fist, with the amount of spells I can use (not to mention faster cd since I'm AAing) won't my mana run out really fast?(limiting me to use one skill until the next hard encounter) even if I am in melee range for the mana regen buff?

 

Stone Fist will Weaken enemies, and if you take Restoravite Veil, you'll get all your mana back. Fade Cloak Fade Step Chain Lightning and Stone Fist is what most people run now, but I'm with you, I don't like it. I run the same as you but use Stone Fist instead of Chain Lightning, generally if you hit more than 3 enemies with stone fist it will do more damage. Not to mention on Dragons and isolated enemies it will out preform Chain Lightning. Plus, once you weaken enemies, there's 2 passives the AW to do 15% more damage to them, and they deal 30% less. 

[N7 Tigger]

Kenny has taken a "vacation".

 

Banned Camp?

[J. Peterman]

Banned Camp?

 

That's what I heard.

[Wavebend]

I liked SB because it could let you solo in the open even without good stats/weapons. Spamming SB when facing all archers would reflect at least 75% of the arrows and deal great AoE damage. Now I'd have to say a SB-less build would be better, as long as you keep enemies out of LoS and lure them in big groups with PotA. Thankfully the AW is complete **** in comparison to the virtuoso in terms of killing speed, so at least I'm happy I have a backup class now

[AlmightyCarrot]

Stone Fist will Weaken enemies, and if you take Restoravite Veil, you'll get all your mana back. Fade Cloak Fade Step Chain Lightning and Stone Fist is what most people run now, but I'm with you, I don't like it. I run the same as you but use Stone Fist instead of Chain Lightning, generally if you hit more than 3 enemies with stone fist it will do more damage. Not to mention on Dragons and isolated enemies it will out preform Chain Lightning. Plus, once you weaken enemies, there's 2 passives the AW to do 15% more damage to them, and they deal 30% less. 

first of all you must remember that if you take both stonefist and chain lightning you might get some sleep combos that will cancel the weaken effect on enemies (but that is just solved by better skill timing) and second I used stonefist instead of chain lightning back when sb was at 20 mana per use so I can spam it but since the aw doesnt have an instant barrier abillity like "Barrier" chain lightning is the next best thing, especially in the beginning of levels when the mobs arent quite grouped up as you want them too and sometimes there are too few for stone fist to generate shield as good as chain lightning does, so while stonefist shines in overall damage of grouped mobs chain lightning shines in survivability in my opinion, thats why I Chain Lightning now over Stonefist

[Yumi]

I don't play AW much, but I like what SB does with gathering storm now, CL does plenty of damage and gets more barrier in mobs anyway.

[Medallian]

first of all you must remember that if you take both stonefist and chain lightning you might get some sleep combos that will cancel the weaken effect on enemies (but that is just solved by better skill timing) and second I used stonefist instead of chain lightning back when sb was at 20 mana per use so I can spam it but since the aw doesnt have an instant barrier abillity like "Barrier" chain lightning is the next best thing, especially in the beginning of levels when the mobs arent quite grouped up as you want them too and sometimes there are too few for stone fist to generate shield as good as chain lightning does, so while stonefist shines in overall damage of grouped mobs chain lightning shines in survivability in my opinion, thats why I Chain Lightning now over Stonefi

yeah the AWE gone down hill even with my massive stats its just a pain, SB is just worthless now .. I think having the SB do 225% DMG would be a happy medium becaus eI am only doing 5-600+ DMG each swing lord knows what other peoples dmg out put is, just thinking about itsends chills down my spin. I relly think they over nerfed it and I agree with every thing almightycarrot said ... its so so sad

[scynn]

first of all you must remember that if you take both stonefist and chain lightning you might get some sleep combos that will cancel the weaken effect on enemies (but that is just solved by better skill timing) and second I used stonefist instead of chain lightning back when sb was at 20 mana per use so I can spam it but since the aw doesnt have an instant barrier abillity like "Barrier" chain lightning is the next best thing, especially in the beginning of levels when the mobs arent quite grouped up as you want them too and sometimes there are too few for stone fist to generate shield as good as chain lightning does, so while stonefist shines in overall damage of grouped mobs chain lightning shines in survivability in my opinion, thats why I Chain Lightning now over Stonefist

 

*shrugs* Again, I think it just comes down to personal preferance or what you like better. I just did a Perilous with Spirit Blade + Stonefist and Fade Cloak + Steps and had no problems what so ever. Gaurdian Spirit didn't even proc, and my team, at least 2 of the members, were dead 90% of every wave. Poor keeper was doing everything he could to keep them alive but they just ran off and died in far corners of the zones :/

 

And CL only shines when you have more than one target. Stone Fist can give you a pretty decent barrier on Dragons/Despair Demons that are alone in a corner, plus it has a knockdown. I'm not saying Chain Lightning isn't good, it's just with Stonefist giving the weaken and the two 15% up and 30% down passives you can pick up for the Arcane Warrior, I prefer Stonefist

 

Edit: Oh, and once they fix Stonefist...Dat detonator doe...

[Ghost Of N7_SP3CTR3]

The builds I tend to rotate through are my no SB build and with SB build.

 

I use Pyre of the Forgotten,superb HoK ring,superb attack ring and superb cool down amulet.The play styles are pretty versatile,anything from ranged to close up combat.This however is just my opinion on what works best for me.Just thought I'd share.

 

[scynn]

The builds I tend to rotate through are my no SB build and with SB build.

 

I use Pyre of the Forgotten,superb HoK ring,superb attack ring and superb cool down amulet.The play styles are pretty versatile,anything from ranged to close up combat.This however is just my opinion on what works best for me.Just thought I'd share.

 

Kind of offtopic, and I could be wrong so apologies if so, but from what I've read and seen, armor doesn't affect barrier. It's hard to tell on that talent builder thingy but it looks like to me you took the 10% when using SB and 20% passive. IMO you'd be better off running the 15% damage to weakened and 30% damage reduction in the other tree, since you're running POTA in the SB build.

 

Also in the no SB build I think Gathering Storm would probably help you better than Stormbringer. POTA for daaaays.

[daima17]

Yeah +armor passive is crap in this game. At least for threatening and perilous... and you are not supposed to have your hp be taken.

 

I dont understand why you take stormbringer and static charge and not gathering storm which allows MORE SPAM. Mind over matter and strength of spirits allows you to tank the whole universe and even more.

 

The build I like the most for AW is : http://da-skills.net...0,111,01D,010,0You have two points left for the skill you prefer to replace spirit blade if you dont want it.