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[Hanako Ikezawa]

True, CDPR can learn A LOT of things from DAI and Bioware in general in moving forward with their titles such as Cyberpunk 2077.

*chants 'please be good' repeatedly*

[Cobra's_back]

I stand by this....

 

and I don't care . I like to play womens and if you can't the game can go to hell .

Choice does matter. I agree with this post. DA always had the main character male or female.

[heretica]

Threads like this are useless.
 

 

My thoughts exactly. They bore me greatly. 

[Dieb]

 

Some music for y'all to take a break.

[Toasted Llama]

And finally, you all can continue with the Apples vs Oranges argument all you want but at the end of the day, Bioware WILL NOT ignore the success of Witcher 3. This is what has made Bioware so great over the years in comparison to say, the Call of Duty developers in which they just live in their own bubble and rarely make any overhauls to the game. No, Bioware is dynamic and no game is exactly similar to the previous. Bioware will look at Witcher 3 as well as other titles that are not even in the WRPG field as ways to improve Dragon Age 4. This is a simple fact. Bioware has openingly said that Skyrim gave some inspiration to the team for the development of DAI and yet Elder Scrolls games are different from those of Bioware games (apple and oranges right?) and yet Bioware still drew inspiration from that game such as the open world environment and dragon fights. So whether TW3 and DAI are apples and oranges or apples and apples is irrelevant cause Bioware will look at other games and genres to improve their own. 

*snort*

Because Bioware totally nailed the openworld aspect that Skyrim inspired them to do.</sarcasm>

[The Elder King]

*snort*
Because Bioware totally nailed the openworld aspect that Skyrim inspired them to do.</sarcasm>

The fact that they didn't nail it Doesn't mean they're not going to see what other titles do well.
Beside, Bioware would likely try to fine a better balance between the story content and the open world content in their following games anyway.

[fhs33721]

I agree that the Witcher 3 generally has better side content than DAI. The cutscenes in the sidequests do make me very happy. Bioware should definitely bring cutscenes for minor quest back or generally more Dialogue in sidequests.The main story seems ok so far, though I haven't gotten so far yet, so I'll have to wait how it plays out before I can comment on that. It's definitely a great game, but I still slightly prefer Dragon Age. For once while I have nothing against Geralt I still kind of dislike having to play a set character. Furthermore I find the lore behind the Dragon Age world more compelling than the one of the Witcher.

However I'd love to finally see some original world building from CD Project Red. They clearly have some talented writers and I want to see what they can come up with because right now, with the witcher, they are basically just writing fanfiction. High quality fanfiction but fanfiction non the less.

[Drago_28]

Blah,blah,blah Witcher and Dragon age are both different games i don't know why people can't understand that.Personally i love both Dragon Age and Witcher

[Valkyrja]

Sorry, not especially interested in playing a predefined foulmouthed character in a Crapsack World who sleeps with anything that is female and will hold still.

 

That's nice. But bringing up dislike of Geralt and TW setting seems a little disingenuous when stuff like side-content quality, world, choice and consequence, and arguably narrative are obviously superior as a matter of design and resource investment.

[Dreadstruck]

How can something that has been out less than a month be a classic? 

 

How about I look into my crystal ball?

[txgoldrush]

TW3 is better that 1 or 2, but still lacks a lot of what makes DA and Bioware games in general so good. Relationships. There ARE none outside the plot of the story, and they're limited by the franchise, so that's a hobble.

 

There's also the fact that it's hard to warm to Geralt. He's not my character the way the HoF or Hawke or the Herald are.

 

Story's interesting, ad CDPR managed to write an opening that wasn't profanity lade this time, but I found Dragon Age's story a lot more compelling ad I have a great deal more invested in it. 

 

TW3 is a good game, but I'd rather NOT have Bioware take anything away and just make Dragon Age games.

WRONG

 

The relationship stuff are actually in secondary quests, which are actually optional and that includes romance lock quests. Kiera Metz, Zoltan, and Dandelion all have quests that develop them outside the plot, as does Letho.

 

And Bioware should take better quest design, better world design, and better writing from TW3.

[Iakus]

 

Out of curiosity, what about The Witcher 2's story and characters would you not want to see in DA games?

 

Aside from Geralt being framed for murder, I saw no point in him getting involved at all.  There are darn few likable characters, so why not just let everyone kill each other?  

 

I'd say it's a great example of Humans are the Real Monsters.  Except I'd have to toss in elves and dwarves as well.

[elrofrost]

Well, at least comparing to Skyrim has FINALLY ended.

 

Witcher, Skyrim and DAI are all DIFFERENT games. Why can't I love all 3?

[AresKeith]

I can't wait until the day that CDPR manages to screw up somehow and Witcher fanboys have to eat some humble pie.

 

So you haven't seen the Wither forum then  

[Iakus]

That's nice. But bringing up dislike of Geralt and TW setting seems a little disingenuous when stuff like side-content quality, world, choice and consequence, and arguably narrative are obviously superior as a matter of design and resource investment.

Except I don't like the world or the narrative 

 

Yes, side-content quality was a big weakness in DAI.  

 

But given The Witcher's "choice and consequence system" tends towards "choose your suckage" I hope they don't try too hard to emulate that either.  Or else we'll be getting constant RGB choices. 

[wolfsite]

Got to love people who keep trying to create an unneeded rivalry between Bioware and CDProject.  The companies are actually quite friendly to each other so I don't see why the fans can't get along.

[Dreadstruck]

Got to love people who keep trying to create an unneeded rivalry between Bioware and CDProject.  The companies are actually quite friendly to each other so I don't see why the fans can't get along.

 

Case in point:

 

http://www.gamespot....3/1100-6427465/

[AresKeith]

I am sick of this argument. the games do need to be pitted together. There needs to be competition.

 

No they don't need to be pitted together as a competition, that is one of the main problems when it comes to fanboyism 

 

I have backed Bioware for most of what they do and including the ME3 ending, however, Bioware simply put, got owned, plain and simple with the Witcher 3. and Bioware would be a better company to learn from this. The critics are saying this and probably the sales numbers will too.

 

Ok? And saying "they got owned" is perfect example of my above post, despite the fact that there are things Bioware can improve on by looking at TW3

 

Not only Bioware, but Bethesda got owned as well.

 

I am not saying that DA needs to be more like TW3 but to learn from what TW3 did right where DAI did wrong. And I am talking about side content and storytelling. Only a drone will think that DA doesn;t need to improve.

 

Who does a different style, so a pointless comment

 

And again you keep calling people drones or other names because they share your opinion 

[dreamgazer]

Case in point:

 

http://www.gamespot....3/1100-6427465/

 

Ugh, the comment section.  One or two familiar names in there, too. 

[Toasted Llama]

Got to love people who keep trying to create an unneeded rivalry between Bioware and CDProject.  The companies are actually quite friendly to each other so I don't see why the fans can't get along.

Us VS them is a very common mentality, really. Gives people a bigger feeling of companionship with those on their own side.

[txgoldrush]

Except I don't like the world or the narrative 

 

Yes, side-content quality was a big weakness in DAI.  

 

But given The Witcher's "choice and consequence system" tends towards "choose your suckage" I hope they don't try too hard to emulate that either.  Or else we'll be getting constant RGB choices. 

WRONG

 

In fact, many of the Witcher choices feel like Paragon vs Renegade....the ethical ideal vs the lesser evil. And many times, the Paragon choice is better and leads to a more hopeful outcome. But sometimes the Paragon choice IS punished, something the first two Mass Effects failed to do.

 

In fact, MY ending is hopeful, its not all crapsack.

[txgoldrush]

No they don't need to be pitted together as a competition, that is one of the main problems when it comes to fanboyism 

 

 

Ok? And saying "they got owned" is perfect example of my above post, despite the fact that there are things Bioware can improve on by looking at TW3

 

 

Who does a different style, so a pointless comment

 

And again you keep calling people drones or other names because they share your opinion 

No, they need to be pitted together because it will help the one who made the lesser game, which was Bioware, realize what they did wrong.

 

And Bioware did get "owned"....getting "owned" is part of life, part of learning. And if you have the will, getting "owned" is a good thing long term for the most part.

 

Here is the thing...the general consensus in the gaming community is that TW3 is the better game and there are things Bioware should learn from it WITHOUT abandoning their style.

[AresKeith]

No, they need to be pitted together because it will help the one who made the lesser game, which was Bioware, realize what they did wrong.

 

Which can be done without pitting them together, it's called feedback and suggestions. Acting like it's a competition is plain fanboyism

 

And Bioware did get "owned"....getting "owned" is part of life, part of learning. And if you have the will, getting "owned" is a good thing long term for the most part.

 

/facepalm

 

Here is the thing...the general consensus in the gaming community is that TW3 is the better game and there are things Bioware should learn from it WITHOUT abandoning their style.

 

It's a general consensus now? That's a strange way of calling it an opinion

 

Unless you have a source don't speak for the masses and only for yourself  

[God]

Nah, I think BW won't take anything from it. They have no need to. 

 

They're two different games. I've said it before. Let the Witcher be the the Witcher, and let Dragon Age be Dragon Age. They don't need to try anything different. And they don't need to be the same game. There isn't a competition, nor does there need to be a competition. This isn't Battlefield vs. Call of Duty.

 

Though you'll spout off more dogma about your own worldview (want my name? You seem to think you have a right to it for some reason) for games, and then get mad that people don't agree.

 

They don't agree. And when they don't agree, that doesn't mean they're wrong. That just means that nobody wants to play a game according to your own outlandish ideology and standards.

 

You don't know better.

 

I really think a mod should be brought in to sort you out.

[BioWareMod03]

There is already a large and active thread on this subject in the Feedback section of the DA Inquisition forums. In an effort to keep discussion productive and focused we will be closing this thread and directing you here: http://forum.bioware...cher-3/page-125