Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
theres a difference between trying to look up someones skirt and simply finding someone attractive. Ones basic human attraction, the other is sexual assault.
As i have explained above, Reducing a character's potential to what she can be sexually is sexual objectification. If, Sexual attractiveness was stated among the characteristics, As a part of the discussion, Not as the main thing that drives a discussion, I'd have absolutely no problem with that.
As i have explained above, Reducing a character's potential to what she can be sexually is sexual objectification. If, Sexual attractiveness was stated among the characteristics, As a part of the discussion, Not as the main thing that drives a discussion, I'd have absolutely no problem with that.
lol just because lara has sex appeal it doesnt mean her "potential" is being reduced. God forbid attractive woman are ALSO mountainclimbers.
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I've heard plenty of women say more scandalous things than this.
And I like it. It's called being sensual. Not everyone is an egghead.
See? Typical. You just don't want to admit that there's even a problem, So, You just look for redundant excuses. It's not that, It's one experience to prove that some, If not most men take women for granted and sexually objectify them.
And by this same token I can say that you're unwilling to find concrete evidence of widespread sexism or misogyny in Hollywood, because there is none.
One isolated incident is proof of that one isolated incident. Trying to use Keira Knightley or Mad Max as proof of "some if not most men" taking women for granted is useless because 2 examples are not statistically significant in ANY way. Even saying "some men" is an unfalsifiable statement, and thus meaningless. "Most men" is so hilariously biased to the point of absurdity.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
lol just because lara has sex appeal it doesnt mean her "potential" is being reduced. God forbid attractive woman are ALSO mountainclimbers.
It's not that, It's how you guys are talking about it.
It's not that, It's how you guys are talking about it.
Go play some Bayonetta. Have your sheltered world views shattered.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
And by this same token I can say that you're unwilling to find concrete evidence of widespread sexism or misogyny in Hollywood, because there is none.
One isolated incident is proof of that one isolated incident. Trying to use Keira Knightley or Mad Max as proof of "some if not most men" taking women for granted is useless because 2 examples are not statistically significant in ANY way. Even saying "some men" is an unfalsifiable statement, and thus meaningless. "Most men" is so hilariously biased to the point of absurdity.
Well, I can send you the video where that girl was catcalled more than 100 times in NYC, But you would really have another excuse for it. Your comment is exactly what i expected, First you just want one incident, And when i give you one incident, You'd say that it's irrelevant and random. You're so predictable. As i have stated, Denial, You don't want to admit the problem.
And by all means, Here's the video:
I gotta go now.
It's not that, It's how you guys are talking about it.
"How you guys are talking about it".
I said, and I quote, "reboot Lara is hotter than the original Lara".
I'm such a misogynistic and male-privileged s***lord.
Well, I can send you the video where that girl was catcalled more than 100 times in NYC, But you would really have another excuse for it. Your comment is exactly what i expected, First you just want one incident, And when i give you one incident, You'd say that it's irrelevant and random. You're so predictable. As i have stated, Denial, You don't want to admit the problem.
I originally asked you to show me some rights that women don't have but that men do have, and you failed to do that. Then you changed the subject to sexism and misogyny in Hollywood, to which I asked you to show me that sexism and misogyny was commonplace in Hollywood, which you have still failed to do. I never once denied that sexism, misogyny, or sexual harassment didn't exist.
You're the one moving the goalposts.
Well, I can send you the video where that girl was catcalled more than 100 times in NYC, But you would really have another excuse for it. Your comment is exactly what i expected, First you just want one incident, And when i give you one incident, You'd say that it's irrelevant and random. You're so predictable. As i have stated, Denial, You don't want to admit the problem.
And by all means, Here's the video:
I gotta go now.
What a perfect example of media outrage culture. Yes some of the comments were rude and yes I can understand that the comments were unwanted. But some of those comments made were genuine compliments, and cherrypicking the worst part of town wearing the tightest of outfits is really playing into the all-men-are-pigs narrative now isnt it? Not to say its her fault for dressing like that, but if I went to the ghetto wearing a suit and 20lbs of gold chains Im going to be in trouble. Dont go into the lion's den wearing porkchops.
Be outraged Leo, you deserve to have your bubble popped.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
I originally asked you to show me some rights that women don't have but that men do have, and you failed to do that. Then you changed the subject to sexism and misogyny in Hollywood, to which I asked you to show me that sexism and misogyny was commonplace in Hollywood, which you have still failed to do. I never once denied that sexism, misogyny, or sexual harassment didn't exist.
You're the one moving the goalposts.
I'm stating the issue as a whole, The violence and reduction of women potential, The misogyny in society as a whole. Not just in Hollywood or in the streets. Google is a hell of an invention, You could type women in hollywood speaking about being mistreated because of their gender and voilla. You'd have your so-called "Examples". Misogyny is everywhere and it's deep-rooted into society and that's it can't and shouldn't be taken any lightly.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
What a perfect example of media outrage mentality. Yes some of the comments were rude and yes I can understand that the comments were unwanted. But some of those comments made were genuine compliments, and cherrypicking the worst part of town wearing the skimpiest of outfits is really playing into the all-men-are-pigs narrative now isnt it?
Excuses. As usual. The video portrays how deeply rooted misogyny is in society. That women are somehow a man's property. Nothing man-hating about that. Well, Unless you think women should be a man's property...
So how does this make O Ventus misogynistic for finding Lara attractive?I'm stating the issue as a whole, The violence and reduction of women potential, The misogyny in society as a whole. Not just in Hollywood or in the streets. Google is a hell of an invention, You could type women in hollywood speaking about being mistreated because of their gender and voilla. You'd have your so-called "Examples". Misogyny is everywhere and it's deep-rooted into society and that's it can't and shouldn't be taken any lightly.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
So how does this make O Ventus misogynistic for finding Lara attractive?
As i have stated, Any comment that have a bit of sexual objectification needs to be taken very seriously in order to address the issue in its deepest root. And that's why i spoke up about it. It was also because i didn't want to report anyone.
As i have stated, Any comment that have a bit of sexual objectification needs to be taken very seriously in order to address the issue in its deepest root. And that's why i spoke up about it. It was also because i didn't want to report anyone.
define "sexual objectification".
Yeah it's an issue so who was doing the sexual objectification in here?As i have stated, Any comment that have a bit of sexual objectification needs to be taken very seriously in order to address the issue in its deepest root. And that's why i spoke up about it. It was also because i didn't want to report anyone.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
define "sexual objectification".
I have lost count of how many times i did so.
Seriously though, I gotta go.
I have lost count of how many times i did so.
Seriously though, I gotta go.
thats right, you got nothing. Youve been asked multiple times to give examples and all youve done it backpeddle. Go to bed son, you got school tomorrow.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
Yeah it's an issue so who was doing the sexual objectification in here?
It's not heavy sexual objectification per se, But the comments about her attractiveness and the way they talked portrayed an unaware level of defining females by their level of "hotness". So, I just though i need to address that.
The violence and reduction of women potential, The misogyny in society as a whole.
There is no misogyny in society as a whole. There are misogynists, and they are a real problem, but society as a whole is not misogynistic.
Google is a hell of an invention, You could type women in hollywood speaking about being mistreated because of their gender and voilla.
Yeah, and that doesn't mean that Hollywood at-large is sexist, only that sexism exists in Hollywood.
Misogyny is everywhere and it's deep-rooted into society and that's it can't and shouldn't be taken any lightly.
Yeah, it's the white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
thats right, you got nothing. Youve been asked multiple times to give examples and all youve done it backpeddle. Go to bed son, you got school tomorrow.
Do you even read?
It's not heavy sexual objectification per se, But the comments about her attractiveness and the way they talked portrayed an unaware level of defining females by their level of "hotness". So, I just though i need to address that.
Youre looking for something to get angry at Leo, go to bed.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
There is no misogyny in society as a whole. There are misogynists, and they are a real problem, but society as a whole is not misogynistic.
Yeah, and that doesn't mean that Hollywood at-large is sexist, only that sexism exists in Hollywood.
Yeah, it's the white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy.
The notion is deep-rooted whether i like it or not. Because it's unchallenged.
Do you even read?
how dare I say Lara croft is hot! Im shocked! SHOCKED! THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! ARM THE FORWARD BALLISTA! FLY THE BLACK FLAG! SET SAIL FOR CARCOSA! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!
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