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[Kelnuin]

Has there been any announcement as to the level of play-ability for the upgrade of MS Windows10, do I need to be worried, or are you on top of it?

[Akrabra]

I have reserved an upgrade, but i won't go through with it until they release a service pack 1. Also AMD and Nvidia will need to release compatible video drivers i assume. Though Windows 10 seems it will be applied abit diifferently then others. I don't think it will effect most games, and i think you can go ahead and upgrade as soon as you want. Hopefully Bioware will clear this up before it is launched. 

[katerinafm]

From my understanding there is no rush to 'reserve' an upgrade because you can claim it at anytime until the free period expires, right?

[AlanC9]

I've been able to use the W10 preview to run everything that ran on W8 just fine. Well, almost everything; ToEE crashes out. W10 keeps trying to install a crappy beta AMD driver, but you can manually install a working one.

[Ellana of clan Lavellan]

I'm actually excited to try win10

[nightscrawl]

From my understanding there is no rush to 'reserve' an upgrade because you can claim it at anytime until the free period expires, right?

 

If you want the FREE upgrade you should reserve now. It's only free for a limited time period. After it's released and downloaded you can just leave it hanging in your Windows Update for up to a year until you want to install it. I plan to wait a while myself (to install) in hopes that the various vendors will update their drivers.

 

Here are a couple of articles to read about it: Guardian article; Gizmodo article.

[AlanC9]

I'm actually excited to try win10

I'd recommend going ahead with the preview, then. If you install as a dual-boot with your existing OS you won't be risking anything but your time. You'll need to reinstall apps, but modern installers are generally clever enough to handle an existing install on a different partition -- Steam and Origin, for instance, don't care which OS I'm running today.

[Rawgrim]

I've been able to use the W10 preview to run everything that ran on W8 just fine. Well, almost everything; ToEE crashes out. W10 keeps trying to install a crappy beta AMD driver, but you can manually install a working one.

 

Off topic: has ToEE been fixed for bugs now?

[Fidite Nemini]

Effect how?

 

If you mean DX12 and its supposed performance increases, then you'll have to wait until BioWare patches the game to actually use the new API version.

[katerinafm]

If you want the FREE upgrade you should reserve now. It's only free for a limited time period. After it's released and downloaded you can just leave it hanging in your Windows Update for up to a year until you want to install it. I plan to wait a while myself (to install) in hopes that the various vendors will update their drivers.

 

Here are a couple of articles to read about it: Guardian article; Gizmodo article.

 

 

Will it download by itself or will I need to accept first? Because I'd like to reserve it just in case but I don't really want it to take up space in my hard drive until I really want to go through with the upgrade. Also the articles don't mention anything new on the free time period? Isn't it available for a year like I said?

[Octarin]

I wouldn't be surprised if the game hangs like an old wooly sweater after the upgrade. From my understanding, it already hangs for PC players, something wicked. And they're running systems that Bioware supposedly checked for compatibility before release. Just imagine what's gonna happen for a completely new and untested system. I wouldn't wanna be a fly on the wall in the forums when transition day comes... 

[Sylvius the Mad]

I'm convinced MS is going with a subscription model for Win10 (just like Office 365), so all that will happen at the end of the free period is you'll need to start paying the fee.

[Octarin]

I'm convinced MS is going with a subscription model for Win10 (just like Office 365), so all that will happen at the end of the free period is you'll need to start paying the fee.

 

Actually, they said that for those who get the free upgrade, W10 is free to keep "for the length of the computer's lifespan" whatever than means practically.

[AlanC9]

That means the life of the motherboard, I think.

[Octarin]

That means the life of the motherboard, I think.

 

I presume so too, but it's a hell of a legal mumbojumbo there. Anyway, small-print. Point being, this is what Microsoft said on their Q&A site.

[AlanC9]

Off topic: has ToEE been fixed for bugs now?

Well, a lot of them have been fixed. The game is still fairly crash-prone, but in general when it's working it plays like it's supposed to play. There are a few things left that just can't be done in the engine and thus can't be fixed by the team -- for instance, you don't actually need to find all of the elemental gems despite what PnP says, because there was no bugfree way to track whether you'd found all of them or not. A few overpowered vanilla things have been deliberately left in. Charm Person works like Dominate, and if you think that makes it too powerful then just don't use the spell. Some minor bugs are still in -- some zombies not having their slashing DR, Dismissal only working on outsiders rather than all extraplanar creatures, that sort of thing.

That last seems to be a bug introduced by the Co8 team, BTW. Apparently someone wanted a particular fight to be more challenging in vanilla and forgot that there are other elementals in the game who should be Dismissable. There's a lot of questionable design in the stuff they added, and a few things that are outright bad. But as long as you accept that you're supposed to exploit your way around some things and reload your way around other things, it plays fine. Kinda old-school in that regard.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Actually, they said that for those who get the free upgrade, W10 is free to keep "for the length of the computer's lifespan" whatever than means practically.

Free to keep doesn't mean free to update.

[Br3admax]

Updates are also free, because there is no money in not making them free. They're also pretty much required. 

[SwobyJ]

Free to keep doesn't mean free to update.

 

It will be free to update.

 

A cost to future features? Maybe. But not the Windows 10 you initially get.

 

They're transitioning more to a 'service' (aka micro-payment) model with this Windows. Not entirely, not by a long shot, but they want people into Windows and glad to stick around, before charging them. Thus this deal.

 

They won't be charging people to continue to use Windows or for security updates... jeez.

[SwobyJ]

Updates are also free, because there is no money in not making them free. They're also pretty much required. 

 

Yeah exactly..

 

They're not going to lock people out of their PCs. That's much more of a hassle then any sort of benefit. They'll just end up with millions of people doing workarounds.

[Octarin]

Free to keep doesn't mean free to update.

 

You can always check the Microsoft Q&A forum? Just a thought?

[Thandal N'Lyman]

Getting back on-topic:  DAI (and DAO, and DA2, and EA/Origin) runs fine on the Win10 Preview, so no reason to think it'll be different with the full Production release.

[Kelnuin]

I just received notice my update to Win10 will be available July 29th.