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[Hair Serious Business]

OK let me explain on what I mean in here =)

We so far have lot of mods for armors,eyebrows and even hair mods(the ones I most love )...however this is something again that PC only has privilege to,console guys are stuck with vanilla in here.So this is pretty much a petition that I doubt will be heeded but still it can't hurt to give it a shot.

Now my suggestion is if it is somehow possible for BW to merge some of mods with actual game and give it in patch(personally I doubt that modders would mind giving permission for this).Mods that I'm interested in becoming part of game of well....eyebrows and hair mods and honestly hair mods out that are just pure re-texture of already existing hair like for example:

 

(All credits to Dragony who's amazing mods can be found here: http://skara888.tumblr.com/ )

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(Qunari hair mod belongs to Lycoteuthis this mod can be found on nexus: http://www.nexusmods...ion/mods/554/?)

And there is lot more of hair but I picked these few that were closest to original models with just few tweaks done on them that made them look so amazing and again I repeat only few tweaks were done on them.In fact I would love if some of the hair NPC's have would be given for our Inquisitor to use.

And of course other must in game that need re-texturing are eyebrows in here! And honestly Shantia did best job at that: http://shantiablabla...d-this-includes

 

So if only hair and eyebrows of some modders could be considered for patch of actual game I think not only me but lot of people would die happy in here  (because again not everyone is on PC this comes from someone who plays both on PC and console in here).And here are few suggestions of what could be brought to actual game that isn't too "off-looking" from vanilla models of hair and even eyebrows that were just slightly enhanced to look more normal and not something like from 'Stone Age' in here.

 

This is just little suggestion that I again doubt will be realized even though it would be amazing if it was realized and again I doubt modders would have problem with having their mods become official in game in fact I consider that it would be amazing and honor for modders as well.

 

So this is just something to be considered at least in here   

 

Biggest credits to Adela without who hair mods wouldn't even come to life in first place  .

Modifié par (__ThisUsernameIsTaken__), 03 juin 2015 - 12:53 .

[Grieving Natashina]

You might want to fix your URL, because it has a parenthesis that affects the URL.  Also, might want to take down the human lady ponytail mod picture.  The modder took it down.

 

Otherwise, I 100% agree with you.  I really think BW should take a page from Bethesda and ask the modders to use their creations.  A few tweaks and a little clean up would go a long way.  Here's a few pictures of the lady elf ponytail mod.

 

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While I'm add it, I would love it if the DA team would consider taking some of the PJ mods as well.  I know that most modders would never ask for money.  In fact, I'm betting that they would be over-the-moon if the DA asked to use their creations. 

 

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[Magdalena11]

I think it's pretty presumptuous to ask a company to accept unsolicited changes and incorporate them into future work.  If they wanted help, they would have asked.  I have a small suspicion that what starts with cosmetic mods progresses through cheap mats and schematics to god items and romance options pretty fast for a lot of people.  I'm not crazy about the female hair, but I'd rather that than a bald Inq in cutscene when the hair mod doesn't render.  Some modders have been at it for a while and have been working with the company, I believe, especially in early days when races would switch and romances were glitched.  That's up to them, and I think everything that had been modded for fixes has been patched, though not universally.

 

I don't think modding Inq for hair or PJs is "wrong."  I just wonder what's going to happen at a later date if the mods become incompatible.  Will the modders keep up with the patches, or will Inq show up for the big romance scene wearing her hair in a simple but elegant style that matches the background wall so well as to be indistinguishable?  And then who is going to get the blame, the modder or the company for not keeping up?  I do think cheap materials and schematics available at any level is cheating, the same way god items and the killallhostile commands were.

 

Expressing a contradictory opinion isn't going to be popular here, but I think people need to know that not all PC users are waiting to revise the parts of the game they find unattractive.  The day may come when I am so bored playing on nightmare that I decide to tweak things, but I am enjoying what's already here and working and won't be looking for potential aggravation if I can help it.

[Grieving Natashina]

I don't think it's unreasonable at all, considering Valve and Bethesda has done it.  Also, considering the sheer number of clothing mods on nexus, and the growing list of hair mods, I can safely say that enough PC users care about this.  Plus, you're dismissing the complaints that have been coming from the console players as well.   One of the most vocal posters about the hair/clothes options plays on Xbone.  This is for adding extra options, not replacing any current ones.

 

As far as asking for help, you're correct.  Please remember that this is why this the Feedback section for players.  We're asking them to take this into consideration.  They feel it's apparently that beige and widow's peaks for female hair is good enough.  That it's fine to have sideburns for all hairs instead of on separate sliders.  That we can have a dozen beds/banners/thrones to choose from, but not even a simple recolor for the color of clothes.  They might not have considered this important, but I do.  I've been posting in threads and talking about this for months.  Finally, this isn't for the benefit of PC players alone; I'd like to have more options for all players, especially my console buddies that can't mod.

 

I'm not sure what your point is about the rest of the mods.  So, just because some folks use godmode mods this should stop BioWare from asking modders if they could use their cosmetic mods in the game?  Um, no.  No one is suggesting that BioWare just uses any old mod out there.  There is no need to put in the slippery slope argument.   No one is asking for cheap schematics or instant War Table missions, just more options for hair/clothes.  That's what we would like BW to add to the game.  I'm sure they would take a look at those cheat/godmode mods and laugh their butts off.  I'm sure they are aware that they exist, and not everyone uses them.  I personally don't give a crap either way, because someone's single player mods aren't going to affect me.

 

This isn't about godmode or money cheats, since no one would reasonably ask for those to be in the game.  This is to suggest that BioWare take some of the cosmetic mods, make sure they are 100% compatible with the game and putting into the base game as options for all players.  Regardless of platform.   These wouldn't be prone to breaking, well anymore than things get broken with patches.  Besides, folks blame BW/EA for everything as it is.  Anyone that donated a mod to the DA team wouldn't get the blame.  It would be another post decrying that EA hates modding, or some such nonsense.

 

The hair mods I'm using won't leave my characters bald.  There is no way to create custom meshes for DA:I, only modify current ones.  If there was custom meshes, then I could see my character ending up bald if they stopped working.  However, that isn't the case due to an inability to create new meshes.  If, say, my elf ponytail mod no longer works, it'll just go back to the original look.  I know, because the modded ponytail doesn't work when I go to TBE, so it goes back to default every time.

[Winged Silver]

I can certainly agree with the idea here. I'd be curious to see how Bioware goes about it, but in a manner that invites the opportunity. The developers are busy, both with work and their personal lives. If using a hair or armor design created by a modder saves them even a few minutes, I think it could be worth it. I'm not particularly talented with modding on my own, but I've seen the process done on friends' games and frankly, it seems like a conceivable idea, if Bioware/EA have interest in it.

 

I've had experience playing the first two DA games on both the Xbox 360 and the PC. The difference was...more than I had expected. And I primarily only use cosmetic mods, to make it clear what I mean. No god mode, no console commands, just hair and armor reskins. It'd be nice to see players who don't play on the PC have access to these things, in a supported format, especially since what one person chooses to mod has no bearing on another players experience with the game.

[Hair Serious Business]

While I'm add it, I would love it if the DA team would consider taking some of the PJ mods as well.  I know that most modders would never ask for money.  In fact, I'm betting that they would be over-the-moon if the DA asked to use their creations. 

 

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Shame pontytail mod was taken down it is pretty much my favorite hair mod that I use most =)

And yup I agree PJ mods couldn't hurt be put in game as well,they can be put as alternative casual clothing to chose from(something like what we had in ME franchise).

 

I'm not sure what your point is about the rest of the mods.  So, just because some folks use godmode mods this should stop BioWare from asking modders if they could use their cosmetic mods in the game?  Um, no.  No one is suggesting that BioWare just uses any old mod out there.  There is no need to put in the slippery slope argument.   No one is asking for cheap schematics or instant War Table missions, just more options for hair/clothes.  That's what we would like BW to add to the game.  I'm sure they would take a look at those cheat/godmode mods and laugh their butts off.  I'm sure they are aware that they exist, and not everyone uses them.  I personally don't give a crap either way, because someone's single player mods aren't going to affect me.

 

This isn't about godmode or money cheats, since no one would reasonably ask for those to be in the game.  This is to suggest that BioWare take some of the cosmetic mods, make sure they are 100% compatible with the game and putting into the base game as options for all players.  Regardless of platform.   These wouldn't be prone to breaking, well anymore than things get broken with patches.  Besides, folks blame BW/EA for everything as it is.  Anyone that donated a mod to the DA team wouldn't get the blame.  It would be another post decrying that EA hates modding, or some such nonsense.

My wish is only for cosmetic mods to come in patch(hair,eyebrows and some of PJ mods) in here so I gave few little examples of hair and eyebrows mods that are close to vanilla models.I don't care for cheat mods as I said my suggestion in here is just for cosmetic mods only,these are only mods I have interest in seeing in patch and only ones I personally use    

[Magdalena11]

I think that the idea of putting Inq's outfit on the Skyhold customization table is brilliant.  Even being able to choose from a few stock colors would be great.  Maybe adding black, white, and the 6 other primary and secondary colors.  I do get a kick out of Josie's comment that taupe is a spring color.  It is if you're in Skyhold PJs.  I would love to have more options for hair, especially the one in the middle, because there's not a lot of movement that won't happen or length to make clipping an issue.  But I'd like to see other things happen first.  I think issues like Inq freezing in place after talking to an NPC or even mid-combat are more important to me than whether the hair is a style I'm not thrilled with.  I have an Inq I'm satisfied with.  She has clothes and hair I'm willing to put up with.  I also have to watch combat like a hawk to make sure I'm not accidentally frozen and deal with it if I am.  Switching to isometric and jumping in place works, but breaks Stillness of Winter.  I'm here for the talking and the fighting, though, not the cutscenes.  If I was mostly interested in the cutscenes, though, I probably would be pretty disappointed with every single one that happened in Skyhold.  Talking to Cassandra and Vivienne makes Inq look frumpy.  And even though the hair is in the system and doesn't interfere with armor or wardrobe, neither Josie's nor Cass's hair is available in CC.  I could handle replacing one of the bald or buzz cut options with either of them, if there are only so many slots available.  I would also love it if fixing AI pathfinding and Inq's bugged movement was the priority.

[Octarin]

I'm going to regret asking this, but you do realize that 2/3s of the players are on un-moddable systems, right? Like xboxs and PSs... Unless you mean to say that modders should give their code breaks to Bioware and Bioware release them as patches, which I doubt is what you're saying.

[FKA_Servo]

In 2015, home consoles are just midrange gaming PCs anyway. There's no significant impediment to making the games moddable that a OS update wouldn't fix.

 

(Other than the fact that it will never happen, unfortunately.)

[Grieving Natashina]

I'm going to regret asking this, but you do realize that 2/3s of the players are on un-moddable systems, right? Like xboxs and PSs... Unless you mean to say that modders should give their code breaks to Bioware and Bioware release them as patches, which I doubt is what you're saying.

That's what I was saying, and the same with the OP.  The OP wasn't asking for PC mods, she (?) was asking if BioWare could take those code breaks and insert them into the main game.  You know, so console users can have the options too.  Not as mods, but as actual base code into the game.  Like I mentioned in my previous post, this would not only be less prone to breaking with a patch (anymore than anything is,) but it would give console players more options as well.

 

Like they said, for little things like a couple of hair/eyebrow options, maybe some recolors of clothes.  I like the clothes on my human warrior, because it only shows a tiny bit through some sets of armor.  The sleeves are the same beige as the unmodded clothes, but the vest itself has a design on it.  I think things like that would be nice to have.  

 

I think the title of the thread is badly worded.  This isn't asking BioWare to add mods for PC players, this is asking if they would be willing to talk to the people behind the cosmetic mods to add into the game itself.  A game patch that everyone can enjoy.

 

@Tommy Never say never.  BioWare is very unlikely to do it, but considering that some of the other big companies have, maybe they'd be willing to give it a shot.  It doesn't hurt.

[Steelcan]

I think BioWare is too stubborn/proud/not allowed to use mods in their official games. (Until EA decides that paid mods are a good idea)

 

Maybe they can look at mods and come up with their own version, such as the PJ mods and such.

 

One thing that Paradox Interactive did that I think many studios should take note on is that they actually hired one of their community's most renowned modders and put him in charge of expansions for one of their games and he has breathed new life into EUIV expansions.

[Octarin]

That's what I was saying, and the same with the OP.  The OP wasn't asking for PC mods, she (?) was asking if BioWare could take those code breaks and insert them into the main game.  You know, so console users can have the options too.  Not as mods, but as actual base code into the game.  Like I mentioned in my previous post, this would not only be less prone to breaking with a patch (anymore than anything is,) but it would give console players more options as well.

 

Like they said, for little things like a couple of hair/eyebrow options, maybe some recolors of clothes.  I like the clothes on my human warrior, because it only shows a tiny bit through some sets of armor.  The sleeves are the same beige as the unmodded clothes, but the vest itself has a design on it.  I think things like that would be nice to have.  

 

I think the title of the thread is badly worded.  This isn't asking BioWare to add mods for PC players, this is asking if they would be willing to talk to the people behind the cosmetic mods to add into the game itself.  A game patch that everyone can enjoy.

 

@Tommy Never say never.  BioWare is very unlikely to do it, but considering that some of the other big companies have, maybe they'd be willing to give it a shot.  It doesn't hurt.

 

This is never going to happen. EA/Bioware hasn't shown signs of such flexibility, rather to the exact opposite. And legalizing basically illegal code, or even worse admitting that someone else does it better? Not in a million years. Plus, they might as well claim it ruins their artistic vision again.

[FKA_Servo]

This is never going to happen. EA/Bioware hasn't shown signs of such flexibility, rather to the exact opposite. And legalizing basically illegal code, or even worse admitting that someone else does it better? Not in a million years. Plus, they might as well claim it ruins their artistic vision again.

 

I think the more fundamental issue is that Sony and Microsoft don't want people mucking around with their OS, so they want to keep it shut tight. That's why playing around with it immediately voids your warranty.

 

It also makes console gaming "idiot-proof" (no offense intended console gamers - I was primarily one until this gen) in that things generally just work out of the box (albeit always on their terms), with no risk of breaking... but where's the fun without a little danger?

[Just Here For Popcorns]

I'm going to regret asking this, but you do realize that 2/3s of the players are on un-moddable systems, right? Like xboxs and PSs... Unless you mean to say that modders should give their code breaks to Bioware and Bioware release them as patches, which I doubt is what you're saying.

My English may not be very good but from what I read I can say:

 

OK let me explain on what I mean in here =)

We so far have lot of mods for armors,eyebrows and even hair mods(the ones I most love )...however this is something again that PC only has privilege to,console guys are stuck with vanilla in here.So this is pretty much a petition that I doubt will be heeded but still it can't hurt to give it a shot.

Now my suggestion is if it is somehow possible for BW to merge some of mods with actual game and give it in patch(personally I doubt that modders would mind giving permission for this).Mods that I'm interested in becoming part of game of well....eyebrows and hair mods and honestly hair mods out that are just pure re-texture of already existing hair like for example:

But didn't OP said in their post said it nicely that is what they want o_O?To have some of cosmetic mods released in patch so console users(myself) can also get it that way. 

[Saphiron123]

I think it's pretty presumptuous to ask a company to accept unsolicited changes and incorporate them into future work.  If they wanted help, they would have asked.  I have a small suspicion that what starts with cosmetic mods progresses through cheap mats and schematics to god items and romance options pretty fast for a lot of people.  I'm not crazy about the female hair, but I'd rather that than a bald Inq in cutscene when the hair mod doesn't render.  Some modders have been at it for a while and have been working with the company, I believe, especially in early days when races would switch and romances were glitched.  That's up to them, and I think everything that had been modded for fixes has been patched, though not universally.

 

I don't think modding Inq for hair or PJs is "wrong."  I just wonder what's going to happen at a later date if the mods become incompatible.  Will the modders keep up with the patches, or will Inq show up for the big romance scene wearing her hair in a simple but elegant style that matches the background wall so well as to be indistinguishable?  And then who is going to get the blame, the modder or the company for not keeping up?  I do think cheap materials and schematics available at any level is cheating, the same way god items and the killallhostile commands were.

 

Expressing a contradictory opinion isn't going to be popular here, but I think people need to know that not all PC users are waiting to revise the parts of the game they find unattractive.  The day may come when I am so bored playing on nightmare that I decide to tweak things, but I am enjoying what's already here and working and won't be looking for potential aggravation if I can help it.

Wanting help implies they're doing something, lol. 

[AlexiaRevan]

OK let me explain on what I mean in here =)

We so far have lot of mods for armors,eyebrows and even hair mods(the ones I most love )...however this is something again that PC only has privilege to,console guys are stuck with vanilla in here.So this is pretty much a petition that I doubt will be heeded but still it can't hurt to give it a shot.

Now my suggestion is if it is somehow possible for BW to merge some of mods with actual game and give it in patch(personally I doubt that modders would mind giving permission for this).Mods that I'm interested in becoming part of game of well....eyebrows and hair mods and honestly hair mods out that are just pure re-texture of already existing hair like for example:

 

(All credits to Dragony who's amazing mods can be found here: http://skara888.tumblr.com/ )

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(Qunari hair mod belongs to Lycoteuthis this mod can be found on nexus: http://www.nexusmods...ion/mods/554/?)

And there is lot more of hair but I picked these few that were closest to original models with just few tweaks done on them that made them look so amazing and again I repeat only few tweaks were done on them.In fact I would love if some of the hair NPC's have would be given for our Inquisitor to use.

And of course other must in game that need re-texturing are eyebrows in here! And honestly Shantia did best job at that: http://shantiablabla...d-this-includes

 

So if only hair and eyebrows of some modders could be considered for patch of actual game I think not only me but lot of people would die happy in here  (because again not everyone is on PC this comes from someone who plays both on PC and console in here).And here are few suggestions of what could be brought to actual game that isn't too "off-looking" from vanilla models of hair and even eyebrows that were just slightly enhanced to look more normal and not something like from 'Stone Age' in here.

 

This is just little suggestion that I again doubt will be realized even though it would be amazing if it was realized and again I doubt modders would have problem with having their mods become official in game in fact I consider that it would be amazing and honor for modders as well.

 

So this is just something to be considered at least in here   

 

Biggest credits to Adela without who hair mods wouldn't even come to life in first place  .

Neeeeeeeeed that hair ! I didn't see those mods on the nexus 

 

Unlocked achievement: keep starting over ! 

[Hair Serious Business]

Neeeeeeeeed that hair ! I didn't see those mods on the nexus 

 

Unlocked achievement: keep starting over ! 

Most of hair mods are on thumblr that is why xD

This is never going to happen. EA/Bioware hasn't shown signs of such flexibility, rather to the exact opposite. And legalizing basically illegal code, or even worse admitting that someone else does it better? Not in a million years. Plus, they might as well claim it ruins their artistic vision again.

I'm well aware of low chance my idea has even being just consideration by EA/BW in here...just as I said at start,still doesn't hurt to try 

Plus as others have already said other big companies have involved some of mods in their game already and this is simple petition for cosmetic stuff only.For BW to make something like this on their own requires time and well money too,while mods are out there already made that could save their time.If EA/BW is willing just to take this petition in one small consideration(which I doubt will happen again) I know that modders wouldn't mind sharing their work for some price....hell I even bet my life that they wouldn't mind giving it for free because as I said having game developers recognizing some modders and taking some of their mods in actual game is huge honor in here plus everyone will win in here,console guys get stuff out of this this way and lot of threads complaining will also shut up . 

[TheOgre]

The hair is just amazing on all of them. The gods be praised..