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[Mister J]

And that is what I love about Mass Effect: the ability to shape the experience to your own preferences! And that is why I would want to see many other games doing the same.

[themikefest]

For a player who doesn't like having squadmates die, he/she can do a trilogy run with having only one or only two dying

 

don't recruit Wrex in ME1

don't recruit Thane and the geth in ME2

delete Maleon's data during Mordin's loyalty mission in ME2

 

if picking control or synthesis, the only squadmate to die is Ashley/Kaidan on Virmire and if picking destroy, the edibot is destroyed

[Beregond5]

I can't bring myself to kill any one of my companions except maybe Ash. I like her, but either my Shepard is already a soldier or they're planning on romancing Kaidan, so boom she goes.

 

Although if you count Morinth in... then, yeah, definitely no regrets killing her.

If we go for non-companions, Kai Leng is the easy answer and Rana Thanoptis is the tough one (even if I know what happens in the third game)

[Han Shot First]

In my canon playthrough I lost Kaidan, Mordin, Thane, Legion, Miranda, and EDI. Also Jenkins! Everyone forgets poor Jenkins.

 

Kaidan died on Virmire, Mordin curing the genophage, Thane in the aftermath of the coup, Legion while sacrificing himself for the Geth, Miranda on Horizon, and EDI after Destroy was chosen. You could perhaps add Javik to that since he planned to commit suicide after the Reaper War.

 

I'm not willing to lose any more than that because it would require Shepard making boneheaded decisions during the Suicide Mission. It's a shame that mission gave you a path to a flawless victory instead of being structured more like Virmire, where you were going to lose some people no matter what.

 

Miranda's death on Horizon can also be the result of mistakes on Shepard's part (not warning her about Kai Leng) but in my case it was just because she had been a LI in ME2, but got passed up for Liara in ME3. Despite that being a bizarre thing for the devs to tie her survival to, I liked how her death played out and kept it part of my canon. It didn't come about through any mistake on Shepard's part (she was warned about Kai Leng), it made Horizon more emotionally impactful, and it gave Shepard even more motivation to skewer Kai Leng. I like "That was for Thane and Miranda you son-of-a-******!" more than the version of that line that just includes Thane. Also I love Tali's reaction afterwards. The dialogue with her after Miranda dies is probably my favorite of Tali's scenes in the game. "And to Miranda. Rest easy, you genetically perfect Cerberus cheerleader bosh'tet! Keelah se'lai!"

[CrutchCricket]

No he didn't. You can't have what doesn't exist.

Seeing as how you can't prove that let's just say Legion has or doesn't have what everyone else has or doesn't have.

 

First playthrough of ME2 (before I knew what I was doing I lost Legion and Samara (and possibly Zaeed). First playthrough of ME3 I told Javik to look at the shard. I still think that decision makes more sense but I haven't done it since. Not sure if I will again but it seems more fitting if he's not around post war

 

Otherwise, I've never killed anyone I could save, speaking about squadmates or beneficial characters. Enemies on the other hand I don't spare generally, so the likes of Elnora, out the window merc guy and Rana Thanoptis are dead. Kaidan always dies. Morinth also always dies. I save-reloaded to get Dominate.

 

Theoretically my Shepard could pull the trigger on anyone. Practically, I would kill off any character aside from Miranda and Kasumi if I needed to. I've been toying with the idea of killing Jacob because of Kasumi's remarks in ME3 but since I can cancel them I no longer need to.

[CrutchCricket]

Something about how Jacob could get her back on the Normandy. It usually results in me wanting to burn something needlessly.

[CrutchCricket]

Why? I remember that. I thought it was funny.

 

I'm only annoyed in a general sense... I wish I had a choice of any ME2 crew.

It's most likely a joke. Still doesn't stop it from being a slap in the face.

 

"Jacob could get me back. But not you, Shepard. Never you. Because you suck and I want you to die."

 

There might be the most trace, miniscule amount of over exaggeration in that last sentence. Just a micron.

[congokong]

Let me think. In ME1 I have no problem killing either Ashley or Kaidan. Which one depends on the playthrough, although my canon killed Kaidan because he's a bland character who I kind of feel was meant to die. My canon also killed Wrex on Virmire because there was no way Shepard was lowering her weapon. I also killed him on my first, evil run.

 

In ME2 the only time I lost anyone on the suicide mission was the first playthrough. I lost Jack, Thane, and Kasumi because I didn't realize I had to upgrade the ship. lol Afterwards none died, although my canon did lose the entire crew including Chakwas because:

1. To avoid losing the crew requires serious meta-gaming

2. With just Chakwas left there was no way Shepard would sacrifice an essential personnel to escort one person. It also added drama. Very sad.

 

I also killed Samara on my first, evil playthrough and recruited Morinth. That's probably the most evil, psychopathic decision in the series.

 

In ME3 my canon gunned down Ashley. Again, drama. I've also shot Mordin before. Never had any real problems with that because he was acting like a hypocritical, stubborn looney. My canon also let Samara shoot herself and Miranda died. No issues there. On my first playthrough Tali committted suicide. Don't think that was intentional but am not adamantly opposed to her death.

 

As for things I haven't brought myself to do, I've never let Garrus die and wouldn't. The same goes for Liara, although there's only one real point where she can die. Also can't betray Wrex if I let him live in ME1. The others who haven't died I just never bothered with but wouldn't stop a playthrough or something if they kicked the bucket.

[cap and gown]

 

Otherwise, I've never killed anyone I could save, speaking about squadmates or beneficial characters. Enemies on the other hand I don't spare generally, so the likes of Elnora, out the window merc guy and Rana Thanoptis are dead.

 

Interestingly, I have only done the "out-the-window" move once. It strikes me as just too over-the-top. Elnora and Rana, however, rarely make it out alive.

[fraggle]

That reminds me: I have killed Shiala once, but won't do that again, and if I want Joram Talid dead, or Thane not loyal, then I will let Kolyat kill the Turian. Its just too silly for Shepard to kill Talid right in front of a cop, who then talks about how the kid looks innocent, but the father he's not so sure about. Hey, what about Shepard?!?!?!

 

Haha, yes! I picked it this time to do it myself because it fit my character and I wanted to see if Bailey says anything to me, but noooo. He's a quite strange character, he lets slide a lot and is dirty, like StreetMagic said, but I really like him somehow! He's so kind sometimes, like giving Thane and Kolyat the time to talk, d'aww. But yeah, that was definitely weird I shot that politician, even though he was baddie as well, and he acted all casual, you know, business as usual

 

On my first playthrough I thought the game was about to end if I went through the Omega 4 relay and there was still a journal entry I hadn't done yet. So I went and finished off that mission. So Kelly died and Gabby along with her.

 

I didn't know during my first run that the crew being saved depended on the number of missions you do before that, so I just did some more before heading through the relay. Ahaha. Now I usually try to save everyone.

[congokong]

I have no problem killing everyone. Do I feel bad about it. No.

 

I've even killed my Li Samantha several times, but I had to get my ems below 1750 for that to happen. That's fine. If the game allows me to do whatever in regards to killing a character, then that's what I do. The playthroughs that I've killed everyone were specific playthroughs.  Majority of my playthroughs,  I usually have a few die throughout the trilogy

 

I've had the memorial wall filled with names both as a renegade and a paragon with femshep surviving. 

Some reading this might be shocked while others like me lol. I really wish you recorded that playthrough where you killed everyone possible. I'd have loved to see it. I'd especially love the part where Joker whines about how many they've lost (after Miranda dies) and lists all the names. That would've been a long list.

[Han Shot First]

I always have Shepard throw the merc out the window. That interrupt is just too awesome not to take it. 

 

Also Jack is mandatory for that mission because I believe she is the only one that reacts to it. 

[Mineko]

I'm a total wuss, to be honest. I got to love most of the members of my crew for different reasons, and killing them makaes me sad. If I would have to choose who would I care less about, probably it would be Jacob, Samara or Zaeed. Never bonded too much with them (at least not in the time I've played for now). The one I could never, ever kill would be Kaidan, though. And Garrus-bro.

[congokong]

That reminds me: I have killed Shiala once, but won't do that again, and if I want Joram Talid dead, or Thane not loyal, then I will let Kolyat kill the Turian. Its just too silly for Shepard to kill Talid right in front of a cop, who then talks about how the kid looks innocent, but the father he's not so sure about. Hey, what about Shepard?!?!?!

That was one the funniest parts of the series though to kill Jorum. Afterwards Kolyat gets taken into custody for attempted murder while Shepard, who committed murder, gets a lift back to the station.

[themikefest]

Some reading this might be shocked while others like me lol. I really wish you recorded that playthrough where you killed everyone possible. I'd have loved to see it. I'd especially love the part where Joker whines about how many they've lost (after Miranda dies) and lists all the names. That would've been a long list.

The closest to recording the playthrough I have, is this.  It also includes characters that can be killed that some may not of known about. 

 

 

I always have Shepard throw the merc out the window. That interrupt is just too awesome not to take it. 

 

Also Jack is mandatory for that mission because I believe she is the only one that reacts to it. 

I've never had Jack with me when I pushed the guy, but I do recall another squadmate mentioning something. I don't recall who at the moment

[congokong]

I always have Shepard throw the merc out the window. That interrupt is just too awesome not to take it. 

 

Also Jack is mandatory for that mission because I believe she is the only one that reacts to it. 

What's strange is I always bring Jack on that mission, was full renegade, encouraged Jack to kill that guy on her loyalty mission, and yet she still called me "Queen of the girl scouts" or whatever in ME3. WTF?!

[cap and gown]

 

I've never had Jack with me when I pushed the guy, but I do recall another squadmate mentioning something. I don't recall who at the moment

 

I believe Garrus says "that was a little extreme."

[congokong]

I believe Garrus says "that was a little extreme."

You sure it wasn't "You enjoyed that, Commander." lol

[Han Shot First]

 

I've never had Jack with me when I pushed the guy, but I do recall another squadmate mentioning something. I don't recall who at the moment

 

 

Grunt, maybe? 

 

It seems like something he'd enjoy.

[Vazgen]

Who am I willing to kill? Ashley (Virmire), Miranda (SM), Legion (never activated), EDI

Who am I not willing to kill? Jack, Tali, Garrus, Liara (because killing her dooms someone else)

[themikefest]

Grunt, maybe? 

 

It seems like something he'd enjoy.

As cap and gown posted above, I can see Garrus saying something, and you might be right about Grunt. So its possible a couple others might say something. I wonder if it depends on who you picked first or second when selecting squadmates for the mission? 

[Seyd71]

I think they screwed up the Geth vs Quarian Conflict. Considering how screwed up they made the Geth in ME3, I either save both, or the Quarians.

[Han Shot First]

As cap and gown posted above, I can see Garrus saying something, and you might be right about Grunt. So its possible a couple others might say something. I wonder if it depends on who you picked first or second when selecting squadmates for the mission? 

 

I'm fairly certain I had Jack and Grunt the last time I played that mission, and only Jack said something. But like you said it might be dependent on the order i which they are selected, or some characters might given priority regardless of selection.