I have Miranda and Kasumi for that. I don't remember if either say anything. But then again, nothing really needs to be said. Badassery achieved.
Who are you willing to kill, and who not?
#51
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 06:56
#52
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:04
Interestingly, I have only done the "out-the-window" move once. It strikes me as just too over-the-top. Elnora and Rana, however, rarely make it out alive.
That's the best interrupt in the entire series, imho! (Too bad it rarely fits my char
)
About the question: I have not yet killed Tali in ME3 or imported an save without Garrus. I'm not sure if let Samara kill herself yet.
(Easier to state those
)
The one deathscene that I will not do again (too soon) is Wrex's in ME3. It just feels so wrong
- my stomach still aches one year after that playthrough.
Mordin is an interesting case, his death can be actually 'enjoyable' in a tragic sort of way. (It's also for the 'greater good', ...)
- cap and gown et RanetheViking aiment ceci
#53
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:07
That's the best interrupt in the entire series, imho! (Too bad it rarely fits my char
)
About the question: I have not yet killed Tali in ME3 or imported an save without Garrus. I'm not sure if let Samara kill herself yet.
(Easier to state those
)
The one deathscene that I will not do again (too soon) is Wrex's in ME3. It just feels so wrong
- my stomach still aches one year after that playthrough.
Mordin is an interesting case, his death can be actually 'enjoyable' in a tragic sort of way. (It's also for the 'greater good', ...)
As for the window merc, he's merc scum and you're in a hurry. No further justification required. ![]()
- KrrKs, Darks1d3 et von uber aiment ceci
#54
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:18
I always have Shepard throw the merc out the window. That interrupt is just too awesome not to take it.
Also Jack is mandatory for that mission because I believe she is the only one that reacts to it.
Garrus will react to both pushing him out the window and letting him go.
#55
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:21
Oh, the greater good.
Samwell says it best in S5,Ep.8 of GoT: "Sometimes, the right thing isn't what everyone else thinks is good or seems good at first."
I'm a big proponent for the greater good.
The greater good.
#56
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:23
I'm a big proponent for the greater good.
The greater good.
Shut it!
- cap and gown aime ceci
#57
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:26
Once in a while, I'm quite fine with killing everyone (including my beloved Kaidan)... but was it fun? It doesn't feel fun. I have more fun with Plague Inc.
#58
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:45
Shut it!
The greater good.
- cap and gown aime ceci
#59
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 07:49
Willing to?: All of them potentially, because they're videogame characters, but I don't really kill anyone off unnecessarily unless looking for various story permutations in that playthrough. That said, I think everyone has died at least once.
If we are just talking squadmates on the first, uninformed playthrough whom I could have saved, then I lost Kaidan in ME1 (figured he was the better choice to arm the bomb, and chose Ash mostly because of the Salarians also being with her), Grunt in ME2 suicide mission (incorrectly picked Miranda for the long walk and he drew the short straw over I think Tali), and Samara (shot herself because I didn't take the interrupt) and Miranda in ME3 (didn't give her access to Alliance resources because I was worried about the possibility that she was a Cerberus double agent or something). The entire nonessential crew in ME2 also died because I spent a long time doing other missions after they were taken, not mindful of the time limit. Chakwas was the only one left, and I thought it a poor trade to send a squadmate just to save one person.
By my own Shepards' hands', EDI has by far and away been killed off the most as all but two times were Destroy. Legion has also been killed many times in various ways on Chronos, the Collector base and Rannoch due to trying differing permutations of the Rannoch arc, but it generally survives until its death after the ceasefire option now if it makes it out of ME2. Morinth and Samara have both been killed by Shepard, but now I generally just recruit Samara and don't bother with her loyalty mission.
With metagaming knowlege, virtually everyone who can survives most playthroughs because I like maxing war assets and content.
#60
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 08:07
Legion, Miranda, and Kaidan are probably the only crew mates I would never kill intentionally. Everyone else is fair game if it produces a story that isn't perfect. Although I do enjoy having everyone there for the Citadel party.
#61
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 08:41
Oh, the greater good.
Samwell says it best in S5,Ep.8 of GoT: "Sometimes, the right thing isn't what everyone else thinks is good or seems good at first."
I'm a big proponent for the greater good.
The greater good.
Something tells me Olly got the wrong idea from that conversation.
- BraveVesperia et God aiment ceci
#62
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 08:57
Something tells me Olly got the wrong idea from that conversation.
Spoiler
Yeah, probably.
#63
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 09:52
In my canon playthrough I lost Kaidan, Mordin, Thane, Legion, Miranda, and EDI. Also Jenkins! Everyone forgets poor Jenkins.
Kaidan died on Virmire, Mordin curing the genophage, Thane in the aftermath of the coup, Legion while sacrificing himself for the Geth, Miranda on Horizon, and EDI after Destroy was chosen. You could perhaps add Javik to that since he planned to commit suicide after the Reaper War.
I'm not willing to lose any more than that because it would require Shepard making boneheaded decisions during the Suicide Mission. It's a shame that mission gave you a path to a flawless victory instead of being structured more like Virmire, where you were going to lose some people no matter what.
Ditto - except I didn't lose Miranda, and also lost the geth in the destroy ending. Also, I didn't have Javik in my initial canon playthrough, but have since purchased all of the DLC.
I did one ME2 playthrough for max carnage, just to see the alternate characters and content in ME3; importing the Council and Wrex killed in ME1. I played enough of ME3 with that character to see the content, but never finished it.
#64
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 10:37
I can't bring myself to kill Tali, Garrus, Miranda and Jack.I'm completely fine with killing off Samara, Kasumi, Grunt, Zaeed, Mordin, Jacob, and Legion.
#65
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 10:55
Guest_StreetMagic_*
What's strange is I always bring Jack on that mission, was full renegade, encouraged Jack to kill that guy on her loyalty mission, and yet she still called me "Queen of the girl scouts" or whatever in ME3. WTF?!
Yeah, it's weird.. Shep is cool Me2... has swagger and thrives well in the "underground". Then she/he's mainstream and part of the "system" or something in ME3. lol. Aria calls you a boy (or girl?) scout too.
#66
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 11:04
I'm perfectly okay with killing Wrex each and every time. When it comes down to it, the story is infinitely better with Wreav (a nasty brute who makes no effort to disguise his plans, but he's needed for the war) than with Wrex (your cliche heroic orcs against racism in SPACE!!!!!)
Because I save Mordin, I am willing to kill Eve. She is a well-written, tragic character, and really enhances Mordin's story. When it comes down to it, though, Mordin is probably the best character in the ME Universe.
I am willing to kill Ashley as the Virmire Sacrifice, although it would be better if I could make it Liara. When it comes down to it, the things that happen as a result of her death (the detente of racism, being awarded the salarian and turian honors) are better than Kaidan's, and she's infantry (and one gunner, even a talented one among many), whereas Kaidan has a lot of experience. I would probably like a method where I can save both, like there was in the conversation files, but if not, I only have two playthroughs of six that Ashley lives in (one for a romance, and one for platonic FemShep)
#67
Posté 03 juin 2015 - 11:52
Ash usually gets Virmired in my games simply because of the Marksman bug in ME3. I've never romanced her either.
#68
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 12:02
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Ash usually gets Virmired in my games simply because of the Marksman bug in ME3. I've never romanced her either.
That annoys me too... but apparently she's better without Marksman anyways. Go figure.
#69
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 12:57
Ash usually gets Virmired in my games simply because of the Marksman bug in ME3. I've never romanced her either.
I brought her in the romance when the game came out, then had a FemShep because I wanted to see if any of her banter would be better. I was disappointed, although I don't blame Ashley for it.
#70
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 01:46
I have no problem killing everyone. Do I feel bad about it. No.
I have the same thought process as themikefest. I have practically killed everyone at some point, and will continue to do it as long as i continue to play the trilogy.
If there is one person I have trouble killing, it is Kaidan in ME1, if only because I find he is the second-most useful squadmate next to Liara. Plus he tends to be a bit more useful than Ashley in ME3, but both Ashley and Kaidan tend to be overshadowed by other squadmates in ME3 so it does not really matter at that point.
- themikefest aime ceci
#71
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 01:51
That annoys me too... but apparently she's better without Marksman anyways. Go figure.
I never invest more points in it, but I have her armed with some powerful kit.
#72
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 02:36
I won't kill Garrus. He has been there since the beginning and is more in line with my mission than anyone else - black and white - get the job done.
I killed Tali once by acciddent. Like the OP I had no idea it would tunr out that way.
I couldn't play for a week I was so depressed.
I ended up going back like 8 hours and not killing her when I finished the play through.
My screen gets blurry just thinking about it. God she was beautiful.
- cap and gown aime ceci
#73
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 02:43
I'm pretty sure I have killed just about everyone that is available to kill at one point or another. Finally completing the set with my first failshep where Gianna, Tali, Garrus, and Miranda all bought it for the first time (along with every other squadmate save Thane and Morinth). Though it didn't feel to good killing some of my favorite fictional characters, it was fun seeing how things change without them and keeps things fresh after a dozen playthroughs. I haven't quite finished just yet, but when I get back to finishing my failshep, I should have few enough war assetts to kill off James and Liara on the beam run just so I can be a completionist.
- cap and gown aime ceci
#74
Guest_StreetMagic_*
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 02:53
Guest_StreetMagic_*
I won't kill Garrus. He has been there since the beginning and is more in line with my mission than anyone else - black and white - get the job done.
This is the only reason I DO want to kill Garrus.
He's the one of the ones I don't like killing -- don't get me wrong. I like him for my own reasons - but I'm a little annoyed how he's written as the ultimate standup bro or something. That was a choice of the writers..not necessarily a natural development in players' minds. While some characters simply didn't exist until the second game.
- Jukaga et Sehoner aiment ceci
#75
Posté 04 juin 2015 - 02:58
That annoys me too... but apparently she's better without Marksman anyways. Go figure.
Even if Marksman worked, wouldn't it just get in the way of using Concussive Shot? I prefer Concussive Shot because it has a fast recharge (6.5 seconds) and therefore is a good detonator. Ashley and Garrus, both with Concussive Shot make a good team for my Engineer.





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