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[mybudgee]

I support Stark. Headless Ned Stark. 

[Dr.Fumbles]

I was with Captain America when the civil war was going on in the comics, and I am still with him now.

[Mr.House]

Capt.

[Dr.Fumbles]

That's a tricky one because I normally don't like Cap but Stark's position on the matter is something i can never agree with. So, I'm just waiting to see how the movies will pull it off.

 

Tony wins. That's how it is in the comic books.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Tony Stark is wrong. Labels are for things, not for people.
First question: what defines a man as a superman? (both genders intended)

Being able to beat down 100 people without breaking a sweat? Melting flsh and steel with your bare hands? Mind control in general? Super armor which can level city blocks?

[Dr.Fumbles]

I know, But not everything that happens in the comics gets adapted. Also, Just because someone won something doesn't mean that I will support them. I will only support them if i believe in what they're doing.

 

I see what you meant now.

[Dr.Fumbles]

Being able to beat down 100 people without breaking a sweat? Melting flsh and steel with your bare hands? Mind control in general? Super armor which can level city blocks?

 

So Chuck Norris must register then. For all of them.

[Draining Dragon]

I like Stark better, but I have to go with Cap on this one, for the following reason:

[Sully13]

I stand with Rom Spaceknight.

[Commander Rpg]

Being able to beat down 100 people without breaking a sweat? Melting flsh and steel with your bare hands? Mind control in general? Super armor which can level city blocks?

So a superman is able to do all these things. Being the best marksman in the world doesn't count, thus Hawkeye is not a superman because he clearly hasn't got any superhuman capabilities. If Tony's law was active, he should not be forced to register.

[Riven326]

It reminds me of the X-Men mutant registration act.

[SwobyJ]

Huh, I would've figured that Stark would've been against this kind of act.

 

I don't think that superheros should have to register, so I guess I'm with Captain America.

 

He would have.

 

Until he realized over time:

1)How much danger unregulated (as in unregulated by better forces than say a Hydra World Order; I know its complicated though) technology can cause in the wrong hands.

2)How he himself, as someone arrogantly into unregulated technology, nearly destroyed the world.

 

There may be great evil entities out there, but they can't be controlled. Many many superheroes potentially can. And many non-superheroes can work to understand technology/magic enough to use it more responsibly then DERP ULTRON.

 

That said, the MCU, while certainly making a case, doesn't make a BETTER case for pro-registration vs anti-registration. Its more like token gestures. They haven't promoted the 'authorities' enough to make many think that the authorities themselves are worthy of controlling superheroes in any way at all.

 

 

I'd agree with registration and only registration, save for very clearly proven cases of distinct danger. Of course, the film will probably go ridiculously overboard.

 

The registration should also not be public knowledge unless it is agreed by both parties or there has been a previous clearly proven case of distinct danger. Hulk, for example, should be known (just imagine he wasn't already). Stark should have oversight now, but not clear intervention. His genius itself must not be contained, only his arrogance.

 

I think comic Cap is an idealistic jerk who doesn't realize what America itself has consistently done to others, even in its founding. I like the new film version much better, as he gives off an impression of somehow who attempts to weigh all sides that he sees, and then make his (idealistic, but not in a bad way) judgement call.

"No, you move." - ugh, that could be for anything and anyone. Provide something better.

 

As it seems so far, I'd go anti-Act in the MCU. But if this was more real life with real life standards (just + all these weird things from the MCU, heh), I can more easily imagine being pro-Act, OVERALL. As in, I'd be very skeptical of what it contains, but I'm pro a degree of regulation in itself.

[Sir Froggie]

I tend to side with the Hulk, as general rule, for my own safety.

[Fast Jimmy]

So a superman is able to do all these things. Being the best marksman in the world doesn't count, thus Hawkeye is not a superman because he clearly hasn't got any superhuman capabilities. If Tony's law was active, he should not be forced to register.

 

 

I don't care if I posted this just two days ago... its relevant.

[TheClonesLegacy]

I stand with Rom Spaceknight.

The Direwraiths need to be dealt with and fast.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I stand with Rom Spaceknight.

 

Only he can save us from the Dire Wraiths

[Cainhurst Crow]

So a superman is able to do all these things. Being the best marksman in the world doesn't count, thus Hawkeye is not a superman because he clearly hasn't got any superhuman capabilities. If Tony's law was active, he should not be forced to register.

 

And this is in any way a contradiction because? Super-humans registering with their respective governments doesn't seem like any extreme to me. Hell, it seems like it'd be a plus. Government subsidization for living could really help the less then financially well off to sustain themselves. And allow for a better education that isn't mired in class cutting and tardiness along with failed exams and assignments. Just to talk about peter parker's circumstance, after all not everyone is a billionare with their own multi-national corporations to fund their living expenses like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne for example. 

 

Besides, Hawkeye is already registered regardless, he works for shield.

 

One of the things I dislike severely about the entire civil war premise is how black and white dumb morality it is, to the point where Paragon and Renegade have more nuance and tact. The registration forces people to register without providing their families any sort of support or protection, which would never fly in any scenario outside of the ones that have Tony Stark be pro-government and Steve Rogers be anti-civilian.

 

The fact that registration is presented as a loaded question is a load of bollocks. People who own guns don't register to become state employees, but they still register their firearms anyway for the safety of others around them and themselves. What happens if a copy-cat decides to impersonate said hero? What happens if someone replaces a heroes secret identity? These secnarios could easily be avoided with a registration to show no, this person isn't in fact who they claim to be.

 

But like I said earlier, realism has its place, and it isn't in comic books and superhero stories, because often times they lead to no-fun scenarios, like civil war.

[DeathScepter]

puhlese dose he turn in to a 68 Shelby GT500? i dont think so. 

 

 

does it matter as long as he gets the job done? Getting the Job done is important.

[Cunning Villain]

I stand with Israel.

[TheClonesLegacy]

 

I don't care if I posted this just two days ago... its relevant.

Nothing to do with this video at all.

 

But when is Hawkeyes deafness going to be addressed in the movies?

It's one of the best things about him.

[Fast Jimmy]

Nothing to do with this video at all.

But when is Hawkeyes deafness going to be addressed in the movies?
It's one of the best things about him.

Uh, the video outlines his super powers outside of his archery skills, it is clearly relevant in a super, SUPER, serial way. Otherwise you'd be forced to laugh or something.

At this rate, I'm highly doubting they will touch on it, given that they have gone through four movies with his appearance and not once mentioned it. Not to mention the first movie he was in (Thor) had him taking instructions from an ear piece...

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I stand with Israel.

 

I stand with Lebanon.
 

[Milan92]

Steve Rogers.