Face it, TW3 is a better game than DAI and its success shows. Its more successful critically, and it will probably be more successful commercially.
DAI is only better at TW3 in things CDP did not try to do in the first place, everything else, CDP annihilates DAI.
Dragon Age fans need to get over it and realize that the game is under Witcher 3's bar, whether you like it or not.
Bioware accepted compromises of false dilemmas, CDPR didn't.
Welp, now this thread won't end well
Welp, now this thread won't end well
Nah, he actually completely convinced me.
Having played both, I disagree.
Yes, we know. We knew before the games were released, when you were railing against the horror of having to see pixelated boobs.
Not what I was referring to, actually. But I didn't expect anything less from you, Rif. Afterall, you'd have to actually read my posts and we both know how much you hate to do that.
You know what I find strange? Some years back when Final Fantasy XIII was announced to have a female protagonist, a bunch of people refused to play it on the grounds they don't want to play as a girl. The gaming community in general treated them with scorn. But when the topic comes to Witcher, I've seen dozens of people say they refuse to play as a male. Curiously, I've never seen any scorn at the exact same concept with the genders reversed.
I know i've had these discussions before, and the usual argument is that "you can play as a guy anywhere, you can only play as a woman in select games!" which whilst hyperbolic, does have a modicum of merit. There are more games with male protagonists than there are with female leads, though there is hardly a shortage of the latter. Then you get the people who take it even further, who apparently only play games where they can play as a gay/bi character of their chosen gender, I doubt they actually do, otherwise they would only play Bioware titles and (quite literally) a handful of others.
Then you get the "I just can't connect/identify with [X] characters" arguments, which is simply a case of lacking empathy, which is why I refuse to accept it as a legitimate reason to avoid something. As this problem is with the person, and not the game/character.
Not what I was referring to, actually. But I didn't expect anything less from you, Rif. Afterall, you'd have to actually read my posts and we both know how much you hate to do that.
Having played both, I disagree.
The consensus doesn't.
And DAI wasn't even a 90+ Metacritic game
Don't be silly. I always read your posts. For the same reason House reads religious texts. I like to know what mistakes people are making. But I digress. We're talking about a game whereSpoiler. I can't take anyone seriously when they complain about a game with that kind of content having boobs in it. I just can't.
The spoilered is false.
The consensus doesn't.
And DAI wasn't even a 90+ Metacritic game
Why should I care what the consensus thinks? The consensus has thought some terrible things were great and some great things were terrible. Not saying The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age: Inquisition are either of these, just speaking generally.
The only opinion that should matter about virtual entertainment is your own.
Why should I care what the consensus thinks? The consensus has thought some terrible things were great.
The only opinion that should matter about virtual entertainment is your own.
Just because you like it more doesn't mean its better.
The consensus doesn't.
And DAI wasn't even a 90+ Metacritic game
I like how you always play the "consensus" card in every arguement you're in
Lol Metacritic
Face it, TW3 is a better game than DAI and its success shows. Its more successful critically, and it will probably be more successful commercially.
DAI is only better at TW3 in things CDP did not try to do in the first place, everything else, CDP annihilates DAI.
Dragon Age fans need to get over it and realize that the game is under Witcher 3's bar, whether you like it or not.
Bioware accepted compromises of false dilemmas, CDPR didn't.
Yeah pretty much.
I am finding it rather disingenuous when I see things in these threads like that guy who said he wasn't "interested in playing a predefined foulmouthed character in a Crapsack World who sleeps with anything that is female and will hold still" (lol) when there is a large gulf in quality with stuff like side-content quality, world, choice and consequence, and narrative as a matter of design and resource investment not personal preferences on a protagonist or themes.
I know i've had these discussions before, and the usual argument is that "you can play as a guy anywhere, you can only play as a woman in select games!" which whilst hyperbolic, does have a modicum of merit. There are more games with male protagonists than there are with female leads, though there is hardly a shortage of the latter. Then you get the people who take it even further, who apparently only play games where they can play as a gay/bi character of their chosen gender, I doubt they actually do, otherwise they would only play Bioware titles and (quite literally) a handful of others.
Then you get the "I just can't connect/identify with [X] characters" arguments, which is simply a case of lacking empathy, which is why I refuse to accept it as a legitimate reason to avoid something. As this problem is with the person, and not the game/character.
People think too much about this stuff in my opinion, does the game itself appeal or not? Sometimes I feel like playing an rpg about somebody with a sword slashing monsters, sometimes I just want to blow stuff up, move on.
Why should I care what the consensus thinks? The consensus has thought some terrible things were great and some great things were terrible. Not saying The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age: Inquisition are either of these, just speaking generally.
The only opinion that should matter about virtual entertainment is your own.
Also metacritic is an awful way to judge a game, if you want somebody's opinion READ their review.
I will agree with you on this. Critics and reviews and scores can be helpful, but matter little when held up next to your own preference, expectations and opinion. At the end of the day, what you think is the only thing that should matter when deciding your entertainment-- or any purchase for that matter.
HOWEVER....
When something is more successful than another, both critically and commercially, it is wise for the one that made the lesser work to improve his game and to figure out why the other work succeeded where they failed.
What you said on the other hand, represents a keep doing what you are doing, no matter the flaw or mistakes mentality.
At the end of the day, reception matters, regardless if you like it or not.
HOWEVER....
When something is more successful than another, both critically and commercially, it is wise for the one that made the lesser work to improve his game and to figure out why the other work succeed where they failed.
What you said on the other hand, represents a keep doing what you are doing, no matter the flaw or mistakes mentality.
At the end of the day, reception matters, regardless if you like it or not.
Bioware tried that with Inquisition adopting elements from Skyrim and other games, and that resulted in you not liking it.
Meanwhile CDPR is one who has the "keeps doing what you are doing" mentality(for the most part at least), and you love them for it.
So wouldn't Bioware do better to focus on their strengths like CDPR does rather than try to emulate others for mixed results?
Bioware tried that with Inquisition adopting elements from Skyrim and other games, and that resulted in you not liking it.
Meanwhile CDPR is one who has the "keeps doing what you are doing" mentality(for the most part at least), and you love them for it.
So wouldn't Bioware do better to focus on their strengths like CDPR does rather than try to emulate others for mixed results?
Wrong
DAI isn't good because it wasn't focused, it wasn't well executed, it took shortcuts, and made compromises on false dilemmas. It was also a step down in the narrative department to their past games.
And wrong again, CDPR excelled because they changed what they are doing and actually improved from the second Witcher game. Hell the Witcher 3 is that same "Skyrim" leap that DAI took, but they simply put, executed it far better than Bioware did.
The consensus doesn't.
And DAI wasn't even a 90+ Metacritic game
Metacritic is a flawed site that allows for false and non-users to post reviews, allows skewed algorithms to be used for totals, and seems to be fine with numerous reviews (both positive and negative) to be posted at launch, or perhaps even earlier (eg; DA2). Using them as a citation for any standard is precarious and unwise.
Don't even consider users, only critics.
But thats any site that lets users vote.
Don't even consider users, only critics.
But thats any site that lets users vote.
On Amazon, the results for both games awere somewhat comparable, at least on the PC versions. Now this may have changed and altered a little since the latest patches, but both seemed to score around 4/5 ratings. However, as someone else mentioned, read the reviews; not only the scores.
Which is telling how TW3 is a better game than DAI.....especicially the "yellow" reviews, which TW3 only has 1 but DAI has quite a few.
And I mean, what they reviews says. Do like how MC put a summary up of what the critic says.
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