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#251
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Which is telling how TW3 is a better game than DAI.....especicially the "yellow" reviews, which TW3 only has 1 but DAI has quite a few.

 

And I mean, what they reviews says. Do like how MC put a summary up of what the critic says.

 

So what? 

 

Jesus Christ this **** is getting annoying


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HOWEVER....

When something is more successful than another, both critically and commercially, it is wise for the one that made the lesser work to improve his game and to figure out why the other work succeeded where they failed.

What you said on the other hand, represents a keep doing what you are doing, no matter the flaw or mistakes mentality.

At the end of the day, reception matters, regardless if you like it or not.


No, that isn't what I am saying.

If I play Game A and I believe it's the perfect game for me and pleases me in everyway-- I'm not going to clamor for change just because the game wasn't successful by the popular standard or because Game B received better accolades.

If you think Game A needs improvement, then by all means express that and rally for change. That isn't going to change my opinion, however.

I think DAI needs some improvement and I think TW3 exemplifies those changes. Even if the majority felt that way, if someone thinks DAI is perfect, then I doubt they'll change their mind because sales, metacritic or KBomb says it isn't-- and they should value their opinion over mine. Wasn't my money that bought their game.
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So what? 

 

Jesus Christ this **** is getting annoying

 

That isn't very nice. Let's stick to attacking the arguments and not the people making them.


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That isn't very nice. Let's stick to attacking the arguments and not the people making them.

 

I'm referring to this whole thing in-general not the person

 

The constant "my game is better than yours" mentality between these games and the fandom is just plain annoying and ruining the actually good suggestions people are making



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TW3 currently has 39 reviews at Amazon.

DAI currently has 423 reviews on regular PC; 228 reviews for Deluxe ed.

Both still have similar overall scores, though TW3 scores have risen a bit since the latest patches (ie; some altered reviews).

Metacritic still includes flawed data which invalidates any outcome, and makes for a questionable source for intel.

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Well, this confirms my stance that I'm sick of all TW3/DA: I comparison threads.

 

Although I do agree that there are a bunch of things that DA: I does better. 


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I'm referring to this whole thing in-general not the person

 

The constant "my game is better than yours" mentality between these games and the fandom is just plain annoying and ruining the actually good suggestions people are making

 

Ahh, ok. You can't see the word thats been censored so it kinda looks like you're calling that poster something. 


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Ahh, ok. You can't see the word thats been censored so it kinda looks like your calling that poster something. 

 

No worries  ;)

 

It's also sucking the fun out of TW3 for me too  :wacko:


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No, that isn't what I am saying.

If I play Game A and I believe it's the perfect game for me and pleases me in everyway-- I'm not going to clamor for change just because the game wasn't successful by the popular standard or because Game B received better accolades.

If you think Game A needs improvement, then by all means express that and rally for change. That isn't going to change my opinion, however.

I think DAI needs some improvement and I think TW3 exemplifies those changes. Even if the majority felt that way, if someone thinks DAI is perfect, then I doubt they'll change their mind because sales, metacritic or KBomb says it isn't-- and they should value their opinion over mine. Wasn't my money that bought their game.

No, whats going to happen is if someone thinks that DAI is perfect, they will be upset to find that things have changed for the next DA, because of the bigger success of TW3. And this will satisfy a  lot more people that did clamor for change.



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No, whats going to happen is if someone thinks that DAI is perfect, they will be upset to find that things have changed for the next DA, because of the bigger success of TW3. And this will satisfy a  lot more people that did clamor for change.

 

Or those people would still like the game because it still improves upon DAI



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No, whats going to happen is if someone thinks that DAI is perfect, they will be upset to find that things have changed for the next DA, because of the bigger success of TW3. And this will satisfy a  lot more people that did clamor for change.

 
Because people handle change so very well already.... :rolleyes:

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Well, this confirms my stance that I'm sick of all TW3/DA: I comparison threads.

 

Although I do agree that there are a bunch of things that DA: I does better. 

But what does that matter when you are comparing them.

 

DAI only does things better in places that CDPR didn't bother with, and didn't need to, with it being a solo RPG and DAI party based.

 

TW3 currently has 39 reviews at Amazon.

DAI currently has 423 reviews on regular PC; 228 reviews for Deluxe ed.

Both still have similar overall scores, though TW3 scores have risen a bit since the latest patches (ie; some altered reviews).

Metacritic still includes flawed data which invalidates any outcome, and makes for a questionable source for intel.

Once again, I don't go by user reviews....they are passion pits of 10's and 0's.....critics however, while not perfect, are a far better pool to draw from......nevermind its less self selection nature as well.



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Because people handle change so very well already.... :rolleyes:

Change sucks for people who don't want it....too bad, that's history, that's life.

 

A lot more BSNers need to learn this.



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Change sucks for people who don't want it....too bad, that's history, that's life.


Congrats! Such a bright future ahead in systems analysis for this kind of thinking; am imagining a career in Tech Support will be stellar....

:lol:

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Change sucks for people who don't want it....too bad, that's history, that's life.

 

The irony


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The irony

Please....

 

Don't call the kettle black yourself.



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Please....

 

Don't call the kettle black yourself.

 

I'm not in this because I don't have a problem if Bioware changes things up again for the next game :P



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I'm not in this because I don't have a problem if Bioware changes things up again for the next game :P

And I don't either, my problem with Bioware is that they DON'T make changes when they should many times.

 

For example, going outside that narrative formula of theirs and committing to it.



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And I don't either, my problem with Bioware is that they DON'T make changes when they should many times.

 

For example, going outside that narrative formula of theirs and committing to it.

 

And who say's they can't do different formula's each game?

 

Bioware already stated they would like to do more personal stories (similar to Hawke again)



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And who say's they can't do different formula's each game?

 

Bioware already stated they would like to do more personal stories (similar to Hawke again)

But their actions don't match their words lately, until they finally do it. I won't believe them



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No, whats going to happen is if someone thinks that DAI is perfect, they will be upset to find that things have changed for the next DA, because of the bigger success of TW3. And this will satisfy a  lot more people that did clamor for change.

I think TW3 is damn near perfect, but it could stand some changes. If someone mentioned some great ideas about what kind of change, I hope I would be open-minded enough to hear them out. Doesn't mean I will agree with them, but I am willing to to listen. I have seen on the other TW3/DAI thread that there are a lot of DAI fans who are open-minded and are willing to discuss the merits of both games--a lot of them haven't even played TW3 but are still open to ideas.

 

No matter what a company does, not everyone is going to be 100% happy and I don't think it's in any company's  best interest to only listen to the majority. I would hope they see some of the suggestions made, consider them and take the basic idea and mold it to fit their game and style and compromise between both majority and minority. I know it doesn't always work like that, but it is what one can hope for. 

 

You can't browbeat people into changing their opinion. It's a bit egotistical to think that your opinion overrides anyone else when you're counting on change. I am pretty stubborn about my own opinion and rarely change it and if I see someone's opinion built upon misinformation, I will try to point out the error, but if their opinion is well-informed and logical--it holds as much merit as mine. A good company should consider both before making a change. A small fanbase is still made up of fans. However, and this was my original point: When making a decision as a consumer and not an advocate of change, your opinion is more important than what some reviewer states. I would never make a purchase because someone says I should. 

 

 

Disclaimer: I am speaking of logical opinions and suggestions--not the ones like begging for the Broodmother to be a LI. :P


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#272
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But their actions don't match their words lately, until they finally do it. I won't believe them

 

Which is what exactly?



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I've seen videos, and even now own TW3 just to see what's so great... I've yet to see it. Controls and movement feel clumsy, same withe fighting, feels too much like Assassin's Creed 3-4. I thought about trading it in Tuesday, when I pick up Elder Scrolls Online. Maybe put the money on Gojira, MGS5, or w/e else. If people like it, fine, but I don't see the hype.


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I seen videos, and even now own TW3 just to see what's so great... I've yet to see it. Controls and movement feel clumsy, same withe fighting, feels too much like Assassin's Creed 3-4. I thought about trading it in Tuesday, when I pick up Elder Scrolls Online. Maybe put the money on Gojira, MGS5, or w/e else.

Jesus Christ.

 

That hurt.


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Which is what exactly?

Seen the marketing for their games lately?

 

Hell, I actually like the ME3 ending, but that doesn't mean that it was what Bioware said it is what the ending would be before launch.

 

Bioware routinely over promises and not fulfills them.

 

 

I seen videos, and even now own TW3 just to see what's so great... I've yet to see it. Controls and movement feel clumsy, same withe fighting, feels too much like Assassin's Creed 3-4. I thought about trading it in Tuesday, when I pick up Elder Scrolls Online. Maybe put the money on Gojira, MGS5, or w/e else.

How about sticking with it?

 

And no, later in the game, it isn't Assassin's Creed. Also play on harder difficulties and you will find the preparation is as important as the fight itself.

 

I stuck with DAI's even worse controls.