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[Saphiron123]

It wasn't Val Royeaux though, it was only the Market Place 

Yup, but they didn't even give us the option to see the rest. Back into the forest to mine iron, I guess!

[Saphiron123]

Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 are Bioware's best stories though. DA:O may be the best among DAs but it's a pale imitation of BG really.

Let's be honest, BG was groundbreaking at the time, but the story was pretty lightweight in this day and age. I was surprised how basic it all was.

Granted it's a damned old game. Still fun on ios, but it didn't have that solid a story. BA2 though still manages to surprise by the sheer amount of content.

[Wolven_Soul]

The only thing in my mind that DA:I does better than The Witcher 3 is the lore of the world.  There is a more rich backstory involed in DA's world, though, most of that was already well set up before Inquisition came along sooo....

[Saphiron123]

The only thing in my mind that DA:I does better than The Witcher 3 is the lore of the world.  There is a more rich backstory involed in DA's world, though, most of that was already well set up before Inquisition came along sooo....

Plus Gaider just changes whatever he wants to fit his mood at the time. Mages were a genuine threat, now they're a joke. Qunari were fanatics with rigid rules and an unaccepting attitude, now they hug anybody whose different and accept fluid gender roles and vocations. The dude has zero respect for past lore.

[slimgrin]

Plus Gaider just changes whatever he wants to fit his mood at the time. Mages were a genuine threat, now they're a joke. Qunari were fanatics with rigid rules and an unaccepting attitude, now they hug anybody whose different and accept fluid gender roles and vocations. The dude has zero respect for past lore.

 

Bioware's lack of consistency is one of their biggest weaknesses.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

I think both series had great soundtracks, and I hope Bioware brings back Trevor Morris for all future DA titles.

 

Agreed...though I have to give the edge to The Witcher for just being all-around more unique. Particularly TW3. Dem Slavic cues... :3

 

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[ApocAlypsE007]

I think both series had great soundtracks, and I hope Bioware brings back Trevor Morris for all future DA titles.

 

Having said that, I also hope DA4 plays its soundtrack more than DA:I. DA:I had a great soundtrack that you hardly ever hear, because most of the open world exploration is done to the ambient sounds of birds and crickets and such. This is just my personal preference, but I'd rather hear music than the sound of my character's boots trampling on the grass, no matter how great those sound effects are.

Amen to that. Mass Effect 3 also has an outstanding soundtrack but you don't hear it enough, thats one of the reasons Mass Effect 2 just feels better, even though the soundtrack is inferior.

 

The last track in the last boss fight in DA:I is ssssssssssoooooo great for example, but it plays for barely a minute because you finish him so quickly. The main story missions and all the dragon fights also feel great because of the excellent soundtrack that plays in them. But the open game areas feel at times boring because nothing plays in there. Shame that the wonderful soundtrack doesn't play more, is there a mod for that? I would happily download.

[ashwind]

This is a tough one... what does DAI do better than the Witcher 3.... 

 

After thinking hard and long, I can only say Combat; specifically the Epic Dragon Battles.

[Lord Bolton]

Agreed...though I have to give the edge to The Witcher for just being all-around more unique. Particularly TW3. Dem Slavic cues... :3

 

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I LOVE DA:I soundtrack (over 1,600 plays on last.fm), but to be honest- it's pretty generic, fantasy music (it's hard to make something new, so I'm okay with this).

CDP RED is in a better situation, because it's not that hard to take inspiration from a type of music that you're very familiar with (I know several polish folk bands with music similar to TW3 ost. Warsaw Village Band for example). This advantage makes TW3 soundtrack something completely different among other game music. My favorite part are the lyrics in Slavic languages (Polish, Bulgarian, maybe there's more). 

 

God, I love "Steel for Humans" to death.

[Milan92]

Agreed...though I have to give the edge to The Witcher for just being all-around more unique. Particularly TW3. Dem Slavic cues... :3

 

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Still remains my favorite.

 

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

My favorite part are the lyrics in Slavic languages (Polish, Bulgarian, maybe there's more).

Not just Slavic either, there's even some Gaelic in the Skellige tracks, apparently. I actually just learned that a few minutes ago. :S

[Rawgrim]

Let's be honest, BG was groundbreaking at the time, but the story was pretty lightweight in this day and age. I was surprised how basic it all was.

Granted it's a damned old game. Still fun on ios, but it didn't have that solid a story. BA2 though still manages to surprise by the sheer amount of content.

 

Have to agree with this. The story was pretty basic. At least in the first game. The games scores tremendously on content and replay value, though. The companions and the combinations of companions was a particular joy too.

[Guitar-Hero]

Well.... Not much in my opinion, maybe the horse (because Roach is super retarded) but then again i never used the horse in DAI. I personally think DAI is vastly overrated as a game, in the beginning i thought i was just burning out when it came to open world games(as i never finished DAI but sold it) but TW3 blew me away, for me its the best game since red dead redemption and skyrim hands down, it might even rank higher.   

  

That being said the game has its flaws(mostly technical) but DAI comits the biggest flaw, its just boring(for my taste) which is sad because i really liked the characters and being in charge of the inquisition which they really nailed. 

[Elhanan]

Music is largely subjective, but as one that has listened to the intro piece fairly often before even starting to play, am fine with the soundtrack for DAI. Also good with the combat and lore. Still content to play DAI while awaiting SkyWind.

[untuvainen]

I also adore TW3 soundtrack, it was one of my biggest gripes with DA:I that we couldn't hear the soundtrack but in few short spurts.

Anyhoo, one of my favourite tracks has to be Ladies of the Wood:

[AppalachianApex]

You can't really compare what DA:I and Witcher 3 in terms of which game is better or worse at what.

They have a few similarities but they are fundamentally different in terms of gameplay, design, and overall structure.

 

To address a few points by the OP:

 

-Female protagonist/female inclusivity. Yes, Inquisition does this very well, but this isn't something Witcher 3 is *trying* to do, so the comparison is somewhat groundless. Witcher 3's world is written to be historically accurate for the time period it is based on (you know, sans all the monsters and magic). In the time period Witcher 3 is meant to be based in Women had it rough. Hell, women had it really, really sh*tty.

Inquisition by contrast embraces that fact that Dragon Age is a completely fantastical world and therefor it knows it can create a universe that is not beholden to practical history. therefore men and women depicted in Dragon Age are much more equal.

That's not to say one game tackles this aspect better or worse than the other, but the two are so different it seems inappropriate to compare them.

 

-Superior Import System. This one I'll give you but I think it still fall under another thing that Witcher 3 didn't even *try* to do, so it's still a bit out-of-place to compare the two games in this regard. Inquisition DOES have a superior import system. BUT the concept of choices big and small being made in prior games coming back to have consequences in the current game is a primary focus of Bioware titles. Choice and consequence is a big theme in the Witcher series, but not at all in the same manner.

 

-Superior romance system. Again, this is technically something both games had. But once more this is a comparison between apples and oranges. The romance aspect of both of these games are so utterly and inherently different it's silly to compare them, much less claim on does it better than the other.

 

This goes for some of the thing others have mentioned as well, like race selection and different combat class selection, etc. Of course Inquisition does these things *better* because, well, Witcher 3 doesn't have them at all XD

 

 

 

I suppose what I'm getting at is that if you want you compare what Inquisition does better than Witcher 3 or vice-versa, your talking points are going to be pretty limited. The two games share a lot of similar aspects but, at their core, are so very very different.

[Ellana of clan Lavellan]

I have only played TW3 up to Novigrad, and I have to say that the story quests involve nothing but "find and help person x because he/she might or might not know something about Ciri and will point you to the next person x", This makes me feel like the objective of finding Ciri isn't terribly urgent as I spend days or weeks running around being everyone's errand boy doing stupid stuff, while Ciri's being chased.

 

So in that regard, the story quests have a much better... well, story in DAI.

 

Also this is a personal complaint, but DA's lore is much more accessible than TW's.

[untuvainen]

Actually I found TW3 to have loads of stronger women breaking gender roles. It's actually surprisingly feminist. Maybe even moreso than DA:I.

[AppalachianApex]

Suppose I'll give my two cents here (for things that can ACTUALLY be compared between the two games at any rate)

 

Things I think DA:I does better than Witcher 3:

 

-Loot (specifically, miscellaneous/crafting loot). The loot in Witcher 3 is more "believable" in Witcher 3. But damn it is it annoying to have my horse's saddlebags stuffed full of over a hundred different kinds of crafting materials and miscellaneous items not knowing when or if they'll ever be useful. In DA:I the loot is MUCH better.

 

-Customization. Inquisition may not have many options for what you wear, but you can customize and tweak the armor you've got on to your heart's content.

 

-Interface. This is a clear winner. The menus, GUI, and interface in Inquisition is better than Witcher 3's by a mile. The Witcher 3's interface is often nightmarish 0_o

 

 

And...that's about it really. In often other aspect of the two games that could feasibly be compared (graphics, music, animation, world-building, atmosphere, and on and on) I find that Witcher 3 blows Inquisition out of the water.

It blows it out of the water with an atom bomb. It then collects the radioactive pieces form the shore and chops those pieces into smaller pieces, then it takes *those* pieces and it jumps on them. Aggressively. 

[Torgette]

I have only played TW3 up to Novigrad, and I have to say that the story quests involve nothing but "find and help person x because he/she might or might not know something about Ciri and will point you to the next person x", This makes me feel like the objective of finding Ciri isn't terribly urgent as I spend days or weeks running around being everyone's errand boy doing stupid stuff, while Ciri's being chased.

 

So in that regard, the story quests have a much better... well, story in DAI.

 

Also this is a personal complaint, but DA's lore is much more accessible than TW's.

 

Yeah it's the old "princess is in another castle" carrot-on-a-stick story trope, it's similar to Red Dead Redemption in many ways but RDR at least has you chasing multiple people and you pick them off one at a time as you progress - there's less time to be wasted between each story beat. I don't mind it in TW3 but it is what it is.

[Gwydden]

You can play as a female protagonist, through the entire game.
More female friendly and inclusive overall.

I fail to see how this speaks at all about either game's relative quality.

 

TW has fixed protagonists? The horror.

 

Superior import system.

I guess? Import systems are never very well implemented, frankly.

 

Superior romance system..

Leaving aside the sheer subjectivity of it, 'romance' is a completely different mechanic in each game.

 

Actually I found TW3 to have loads of stronger women breaking gender roles. It's actually surprisingly feminist. Maybe even moreso than DA:I.

 

Basically this. There are women in The Witcher. Powerful women, important to the plot. How exactly is it lacking in female inclusivity?

[AresKeith]

Plus Gaider just changes whatever he wants to fit his mood at the time. Mages were a genuine threat, now they're a joke. Qunari were fanatics with rigid rules and an unaccepting attitude, now they hug anybody whose different and accept fluid gender roles and vocations. The dude has zero respect for past lore.

Bioware's lack of consistency is one of their biggest weaknesses.

Those aren't even a lack of consistency

[10K]

This pretty much sums it up for me, well besides the combat portion of this video. Combat as well is better in the witcher 3 in my opinion.

[MattH]

The companion element of the Dragon Age series will always put it on top for me.

 

The Witcher's characters aren't comparable in that aspect, although well written, only a few are memorable, while none left any impact on me. Almost every companion we've had in DA has. Bioware, despite their faults, write fantastic characters; hanging out with them for a few hours will I fling spells at bad guys will never grow tiresome.