It's a cancer that prohibits original story telling. Thedas is inhabited by cameos, not characters.
What a silly hyperbole. Just because the past implementation of save imports left a lot to be desired doesn't mean it's something they should trash.
Bioware's cameos in DA2 and Mass Effect were pretty bad, granted, but they're better handled in DAI. And being able to maintain continuity between games in the overarching worldstate is great.
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What a silly hyperbole. Just because the past implementation of save imports left a lot to be desired doesn't mean it's something they should trash.
Bioware's cameos in DA2 and Mass Effect were pretty bad, granted, but they're better handled in DAI. And being able to maintain continuity between games in the overarching worldstate is great.
I don't see how they are better handled in DA:I
The Inquisitor standing there while Morrigan and Flemeth have an emotinal conversation is just awkward and silly
The Hawke cameo was pretty bad too especially since that dude didn't behave like my Hawke at all
Cameo's only work with the same protag (how were the one's in ME bad? but again you don't like ME2+ME3 so..) or if they are short (DA2's)
I don't see how they are better handled in DA:I
The Inquisitor standing there while Morrigan and Flemeth have an emotinal conversation is just awkward and silly
The Hawke cameo was pretty bad too especially since that dude didn't behave like my Hawke at all
Cameo's only work with the same protag (how were the one's in ME bad? but again you don't like ME2+ME3 so..) or if they are short (DA2's)
I don't like reducing things to cameos, and I hate the way they were handled overall across both DA and ME. I do think the Hawke/Alistair/Loghain cameo is better than the others (certainly more affecting, depending).
What I"m mainly referring to though is the state of the world. Reigning monarchs, sides taken in war, people killed (ok, last one is not the best example). You can do this stuff with a checklist at the beginning of the game, I guess. It would be stupid, though. A save import is more organic.
Of course, it means that the developer has to respect your choices, as well. Obviously, Bioware hasn't been perfect on that account, but Dragon Age has been a damn sight better than ME.
I feel like the War Table missions reflected your choices pretty well. Just simple things like getting a letter from Harrowmont or Bhelen. Sebastian trying to save Kirkwall or invading it. Small stuff that tells you the impact your other characters had. The Mass Effect save import did handle the small details pretty well though, some dialogue changes for flavor, loyalty missions actually had a say in the fate of certain characters in ME3, Thane, Miranda and Legion afaik. All in all they have handled it better than most out there.
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I don't like reducing things to cameos, and I hate the way they were handled overall across both DA and ME. I do think the Hawke/Alistair/Loghain cameo is better than the others (certainly more affecting, depending).
What I"m mainly referring to though is the state of the world. Reigning monarchs, sides taken in war, people killed (ok, last one is not the best example). You can do this stuff with a checklist at the beginning of the game, I guess. It would be stupid, though. A save import is more organic.
Of course, it means that the developer has to respect your choices, as well. Obviously, Bioware hasn't been perfect on that account, but Dragon Age has been a damn sight better than ME.
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How is DA better than ME in that regard? Its not really a trilogy like ME was so it never had to make our choices matter that much (and it didn't, just look at the OGB)
ME had the same protag throughout so people had the high expectations but overall it handled save import much better
At least it didn't resurrect Wrex or the VS just because the plot demanded it
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While I am not fond of the physical appearance of Zevran made in DA2, I am quite pleased with the cameos of most of the NPC's seen in Bioware games. Morrigan took a fairly significant role on DAI, and her interaction and evolving personality and maturation were quite appreciated. Hawke and Stroud were also well done, though having not read the books, choosing Hawke was not as difficult to myself as it might be for others.
And one of the great pleasures I have experienced in ME3 was seeing Conrad again, as well as several of past quests intertwined into a numerous narrative. Not to mention the scathing retort that Shepard has to his adversary in the Citadel DLC, ""Conrad Verner is better at being me than you are!"
And all of them even had cut-scenes....
Seeing Conrad Verner again in ME3 was great and the way they included even the smallest quests (Asari Writings) was pretty awesome too
Seeing Conrad Verner again in ME3 was great and the way they included even the smallest quests (Asari Writings) was pretty awesome too
Ok, Conrad in ME3 was funny.
I actually finally went to Skellige after 109 and I am blown away. Both by the atmosphere, the music and the quest structures in there, like if someone mixed Skyrim and Red Ded Redemption but still retained the original Witcher style. I reminds me of the old days RPGs, like when in Gothic 2 I finally managed to enter the huge, besieged valley with a giant mountain on top where a Fire Dragon had its nest. Goosebumps like 12 years ago.
It's hard to admit but at this point I am really struggling to find something even comparable in DA:I.
Oh right, the climbing animations/scaling animations are definitely better in DA:I. Roach is also retarded from time to time as opposed to the Inquisition horse.
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You actually used a Horse in DAI? A quadruped is useless in this game, unlike TW3.
Scout Harding
THIS!
"Bioware" and CDPR take note, we want Scout Harding in all future games from you ... make it happen.
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You actually used a Horse in DAI? A quadruped is useless in this game, unlike TW3.
I actually finally went to Skellige after 109 and I am blown away. Both by the atmosphere, the music and the quest structures in there, like if someone mixed Skyrim and Red Ded Redemption but still retained the original Witcher style. I reminds me of the old days RPGs, like when in Gothic 2 I finally managed to enter the huge, besieged valley with a giant mountain on top where a Fire Dragon had its nest. Goosebumps like 12 years ago.
It's hard to admit but at this point I am really struggling to find something even comparable in DA:I.
Oh right, the climbing animations/scaling animations are definitely better in DA:I. Roach is also retarded from time to time as opposed to the Inquisition horse.
Even Geralt is retarded at times ;-) I don't know why he thinks fistfight with necrophages and trolls is a good idea. Skellige is great as is all environments but I still think quesrts like Hushed whispers, In your hearty shall burn among others offers a little more. To me.
What a silly hyperbole. Just because the past implementation of save imports left a lot to be desired doesn't mean it's something they should trash.
Bioware's cameos in DA2 and Mass Effect were pretty bad, granted, but they're better handled in DAI. And being able to maintain continuity between games in the overarching worldstate is great.
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Continuity?
The mage / rogue charactera are totally broken in this game.
The Keep has little functional value in future games. Take the DAI endings and major/minor choices. For example:
1. The new Divine.. Leliana or Cass
2. Emperor = Duke or Celine
3. You sided with the Templars or the Mages.
4. The fade was dealt with.
5. Corepheus was defeated.
6. Minor choices
I see these choices as historical bullet points, in the next game, simply to keep it focused on the next story. Otherwise, the game must include content, dialogues, etc, to reflect the new world based on past choices. This will make the game HUGE, unwieldly and costly in money and development time. Bio has no choice but to prune the tree to the major story arc. For these reasons, the Keep has little value to the player other than Bio giving the gamer a placebo saying "hey.. your choices were successfully imported".
Perhaps the Keeps stats may be used as an analytical tool by Bioware for future game developement (ie: what were the most commont player choices?).
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You actually used a Horse in DAI? A quadruped is useless in this game, unlike TW3.
Roach is sort of hit and miss with me in TW3, at times he's really useful because you can sprint past enemies and if you're overburdened he's really useful for getting to a sign post. That said if you're wanting to explore - everything is close enough (even on TW3's spread out maps) that you're better off walking, especially since going off the road you're constantly running into monsters, bandits or impassable geometry. I do like that attacking with the horse triples your damage, but then you also risk getting thrown off or getting stuck on something (and you're completely exposed to ranged attacks). Still, better than DAI where mounts were clearly an afterthought - just not as useful as vehicles are in other open world games, imo. Just as a comparison in Red Dead Redemption I was glued to my horse no matter what, was super useful at any time especially for exploration.
It's a cancer that prohibits original story telling. Thedas is inhabited by cameos, not characters.
I think much of this is happening because of how much value Bioware are putting on their save imports, even if it bogs down the world building with far too many cameos.
CDPR does not care nearly as much, and as a result all 3 chapters in their only franchise thus far is 3 self contained storylines rather than relying on previous games.
You can play as a female protagonist, through the entire game.
Apples and oranges. Witcher 3 is a sequel and the conclusion to a personal story. DA:I is a standalone title with a new protagonist. Witcher 3 wouldn't make sense if you were able to play someone other than Geralt (and only Geralt) as the main protagonist.
More female friendly and inclusive overall.
'Female-friendly' can be a bit of a vague descriptor, as many female gamers (straight and otherwise) play Witcher games and enjoy them.
Superior import system.
Agreed. However, Witcher 3 does the whole choice vs. consequence thing better with the limited import system it has.
Superior romance system..
Agreed.
And what does everyone else think DAI does better?
I think they're two RPG's with very different design goals. Both can benefit from each other's pros and cons, but ultimately there's not much point comparing them as if they are adversaries.
How's gender portrayal in witcher vs dai?
I want to try the witcher but I'm turned off by the sexualization of women. They are objectified, obvious in the pics I've seen, but I'm not sure to what point. Is it like dragon age where its more equal? Is it worse?
Whenever I read comparisons by male players, they like to point out how hot the chicks are. Its enough to make me wary. There's no female lead in the witcher so I think the content will likely not only objectify women but offer content so skewed for men that I'd be angry the entire play.
Well, first off: people saying how TW3 women are "sexualized", "weak" or "objectified" are usually those who have not played the game and are just parotting whatever they've heard about TW1 back in 2007.
Second, the world of Witcher is heavily inspired by medieval Central Europe, where society was rather misogynist. However, it still features many strong female characters that break out of these society roles(Cerys, Phillipa Eilhart etc.). Hell, I'd say that it's mostly women who are actually in places of power in TW3. You get bossed around by females a lot, the Skellige shieldmaidens are almost unkillable, one the strongest OP character in the game is a woman etc. etc.
However, If you want to play a no-punches fantasy equality simulator, then I guess Dragon Age might be more suited for you.
And it does feature a female lead of sorts. Case in point: Ciri.
How's gender portrayal in witcher vs dai?
I want to try the witcher but I'm turned off by the sexualization of women. They are objectified, obvious in the pics I've seen, but I'm not sure to what point. Is it like dragon age where its more equal? Is it worse?
Whenever I read comparisons by male players, they like to point out how hot the chicks are. Its enough to make me wary. There's no female lead in the witcher so I think the content will likely not only objectify women but offer content so skewed for men that I'd be angry the entire play.
You're kidding, right?
Geralt is "whipped".
Every female in the games bosses him around.
Except Roach, she just ignores him ...
How's gender portrayal in witcher vs dai?
I want to try the witcher but I'm turned off by the sexualization of women. They are objectified, obvious in the pics I've seen, but I'm not sure to what point. Is it like dragon age where its more equal? Is it worse?
Whenever I read comparisons by male players, they like to point out how hot the chicks are. Its enough to make me wary. There's no female lead in the witcher so I think the content will likely not only objectify women but offer content so skewed for men that I'd be angry the entire play.
I was really worried about this before picking up the game, because I've always heard rumors that this series is incredibly sexist, but I'm not having an issue at all with it.
The game has pandered once or twice so far in terms of male gaze and nudity imo, but the female characters I've met so far have been very well written and fleshed out (even relatively minor quest characters). I really am remembering more of the women in this game so far than the men. Like someone else said, misogyny is on the periphery of the game (mainly through npc comments from what I've seen, but I'm still pretty early in), but it isn't treated flippantly or glorified. But, I could also see and understand if this would make some players uncomfortable.
Still an amazing game though. I was hesitant to pick it up at first, but I have nothing but praise at the moment, really...
How's gender portrayal in witcher vs dai?
I want to try the witcher but I'm turned off by the sexualization of women. They are objectified, obvious in the pics I've seen, but I'm not sure to what point. Is it like dragon age where its more equal? Is it worse?
Whenever I read comparisons by male players, they like to point out how hot the chicks are. Its enough to make me wary. There's no female lead in the witcher so I think the content will likely not only objectify women but offer content so skewed for men that I'd be angry the entire play.
I thought Cassandra was hot. Last I checked she was well received.
I suggest you either look up videos of entire segments where Geralt interacts with woman or just play the game. Because most of the opinions you'll find here are biased towards DA:I.
Mounts take the brunt of fall damage, help customize the tastes of each PC, as well offering a faster way of crossing explored territory. But perhaps the term 'useless' might have a different meaning elsewhere....
Dude, the horse was useless. It added almost no speed, it made your companions vanish and turned off party banter, you couldn't fight from it, you couldn't interact with anything from it... it's the worst horse in videogames.
With the action combat, the set protagonist, and the auto-dialogue, I struggle to categorize it as a roleplaying game at all.TW3 is definitely NOT the grail of video games for me its "just" a very good RPG game (probably the best I have played in years)
Dude, the horse was useless. It added almost no speed, it made your companions vanish and turned off party banter, you couldn't fight from it, you couldn't interact with anything from it... it's the worst horse in videogames.
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