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[Lord Bolton]

But in TW3, you have to play as Geralt, who I find blander than even the silent, blank-faced Warden.  If TW3 allowed you to create your own protagonist, and the VO actually had more life than a dead fish, and also, if women were treated more than spank bank material, I would NEVER EVER stop playing it.  But, here we are.

 

I'm sorry, but about which game are you talking about? Clearly it's not TW3. 

 

I still remember my TW3 hate posts on BSN that I made a few months ago. I hated this game for the same reason. Then I've played it. Oh god, now I feel like a complete idiot.

[Countess Cutlass]

I personally don't have a problem if someone dislikes Geralt. If someone hasn't read the books, has a visible antipathy towards the "Clint Eastwood"-ish characters or overall just doesn't have any "connection" to him, then it's completely understandable.

 

I am just curious at what exactly did you find so distasteful about the treatment of women in TW3? My (personal) impression was that it was actually them who moved the plot, bossed Geralt around and were all around in the places of power and respect.

 

I do appreciate your post for being so civil.  Thanks.  I know that tons of people love Geralt/The Witcher, and I shouldn't have tried to diminish their experience.

 

As for my reasons, I do have them, and they are definite, but I'd rather pass on explaining myself in the open forum.  I'd honestly rather be eaten alive by a pack of rabid wolves.  It was my fault for even bringing it up, and to be honest, I should have realized my flippant comment would derail the thread into bad Jim Carrey gif territory, but I did that, and now have to live with myself.  ~sobs~

[Grieving Natashina]

I'm not a TW player, but I'm curious about your thoughts.  Would you mind sending me a PM explaining where you're coming from?  Don't worry, I'm friendly and I won't flame you for your opinion.  

[MoonDrummer]

I do appreciate your post for being so civil.  Thanks.  I know that tons of people love Geralt/The Witcher, and I shouldn't have tried to diminish their experience.

 

As for my reasons, I do have them, and they are definite, but I'd rather pass on explaining myself in the open forum.  I'd honestly rather be eaten alive by a pack of rabid wolves.  It was my fault for even bringing it up, and to be honest, I should have realized my flippant comment would derail the thread into bad Jim Carrey gif territory, but I did that, and now have to live with myself.  ~sobs~

And now you're insulting Jim Carrey gifs?

[duckley]

I love both games - but Geralt is anything but bland!!

 

His voice acting takes a while to get used to . When I first heard it in The Witcher - I thought bad acting ! But after a while you realize how much his tones work for him. The Witcher mutations do effect "affect"  apparently. But he is sardonic as h*ll and supremely confident which makes him so appealing . You can play Geralt as a total nasty or as a total sweat heart. They have done a great job with him and evolving his personality over the 3 games.

 

 To the specific question , I would say DA has better graphics, more diverse landscapes, and believe it or not, a  less overwhelming number of go fetchers/collections and  a better CC . People are prettier and the game has more replayability. Also if you can believe this too - the writing font is LARGER in DA:O

 

The Witcher story is grittier, darker, deeper, and I hate to say it, but the choices are indeed more meaningful/impactful in this game. The hair and horses are soooo much better.  Have to say that I give TW3 a slight edge overall, but again love them both!

[FKA_Servo]

I love both games - but Geralt is anything but bland!!

 

His VA takes a while to get used to . When I first heard it in The Witcher - I thought bad acting LOL! But after a while you realize how much his tones work for him. The Witcher mutations do effect "affect"  apparently. But he is sardonic as h*ll and supremely confident which makes him so appealing. You can play Geralt as a total nasty or as a total sweat heart. They have done a great job with him and evolving his personality over the 3 games.

 

I hope is that the overall flow of conversation improves.

 

I'm playing through TW1 in earnest right now, because I'd like to do so before I play TW3 (which I'm pretty excited for). I just started chapter 3.

 

The dialog is... stilted, awkward, and mostly just terrible. The acting overall (yeah, Geralt is bland) is meh (I can't believe how bad Dandelion is). The party in Shani's place was something to behold.

[Dread-Reaper]

I hope is that the overall flow of conversation improves.

 

I'm playing through TW1 in earnest right now, because I'd like to do so before I play TW3 (which I'm pretty excited for). I just started chapter 3.

 

The dialog is... stilted, awkward, and mostly just terrible. The acting overall (yeah, Geralt is bland) is meh (I can't believe how bad Dandelion is). The party in Shani's place was something to behold.

Dandelion, oh my god, that was just awkwardness incarnate. The stiff awkwardness, the lip syncing, the out of sync strumming of his lute and his face, the stuff of nightmares. Damn, CDPR has come a long way.

[Saphiron123]

Yeah, it's obviously my opinion only, and it's as valid as yours is, thanks.  I was explaining the reason, in my *personal opinion*, of why I wasn't into the The Witcher series.  No need to get pressed.  I respect that other people like Geralt and the series.

 

And...maybe spank bank was harsh, but I don't love the way that the game handles women, in general.  If you can't deal with differing opinions on TW3, then maybe work on realizing that other people have differing viewpoints and it's going to be okay, guys.

You mean women that are on par with the men? How are they treated as spank bank material?

The female characters aren't exactly wilting flowers or sex objects, and Ciri makes Geralt look weak.

[Saphiron123]

I hope is that the overall flow of conversation improves.

 

I'm playing through TW1 in earnest right now, because I'd like to do so before I play TW3 (which I'm pretty excited for). I just started chapter 3.

 

The dialog is... stilted, awkward, and mostly just terrible. The acting overall (yeah, Geralt is bland) is meh (I can't believe how bad Dandelion is). The party in Shani's place was something to behold.

Don't worry, the jump from TW1 to TW2 is pretty huge.

[chance52]

I hope is that the overall flow of conversation improves.

 

I'm playing through TW1 in earnest right now, because I'd like to do so before I play TW3 (which I'm pretty excited for). I just started chapter 3.

 

The dialog is... stilted, awkward, and mostly just terrible. The acting overall (yeah, Geralt is bland) is meh (I can't believe how bad Dandelion is). The party in Shani's place was something to behold.

 

Yeah the voice acting in the first game wasn't great.  There is a reason they recast all but I think 2 people after the first game. Voice acting is a lot more natural in the second and third games and the third looks a lot better too because in so many instances CDPR used motion capture for the animations and it looks so good in a lot of scenes.

 

Since you are in chapter 3 heads up.

Spoiler

Who you side with for the rest of the game is decided at the bank robbery.  Whomever you pick you can still ignore and go neutral in the end but if you help The Order in the bank you can't then go pick the elves later and vise versa.

 

I finished the last book and now I'm replaying the entire series (in chapter 3 myself right now!) and I'm enjoying all the references I didn't get before.

[Shechinah]

Its not like ME where there was a storyline throughout the three games, Save import doesn't matter in TW (one of my gripes with it)

Yeah, that can cause problems for some players in terms of immersion. Someone on a different forum brought up how Vernon Roche, I believe it was, reacted friendly towards Geralt regardless of what choices you made in Witcher 2.

 

As a note, I have not seen any scenes in Witcher 3 featuring his return so I cannot say if I personally think that is the case.  

[chance52]

Yeah, that can cause problems for some players in terms of immersion. Someone on a different forum brought up how Vernon Roche, I believe it was, reacted friendly towards Geralt regardless of what choices you made in Witcher 2.

 

As a note, I have not seen any scenes in Witcher 3 featuring his return so I cannot say if I personally think that is the case.  

 

Well to be fair Roche was like that in Witcher 2 as well. You run into him after helping Iorveth escape and he is mad because Ves almost died but he gets over it super fast and helps you anyway. So that part stayed in line with the character at least. There is a reason so many people call him Broche, he always has your back no matter what you do.

 

 

But yeah from game to game the save import adds very little in the way of content. Could be a journal entry, could be a single character that shows up but you don't really miss that much by skipping the save import.

[Gileadan]

Its not like ME where there was a storyline throughout the three games, Save import doesn't matter in TW (one of my gripes with it)

It funnily matters in minor things, but the import from TW1 to TW2 ignored the Shani romance, which was meh. (the fact that it was ignored, not the romance!)

 

On the other hand, it lets you start the game with some selected gear from TW1, which is above the normal starting gear, and story wise the only references I noticed was how you solved the Princess Adda subplot.

 

However, there was one thing I really like in the TW2 to TW3 import!

Spoiler

Getting Letho the kingslayer to help at the battle of Kaer Morhen.

Roche: What's that whoreson doing here?

Letho: Eredin is a king, is he not?

[chance52]

Its definitely the case, its as if they made Roche's path canon

Not canon but for sure easy to miss the Saskia reference near the end of the game that you only get with a Iorveth save import.

[correctamundo]

Yeah, that can cause problems for some players in terms of immersion. Someone on a different forum brought up how Vernon Roche, I believe it was, reacted friendly towards Geralt regardless of what choices you made in Witcher 2.

 

As a note, I have not seen any scenes in Witcher 3 featuring his return so I cannot say if I personally think that is the case.  

 

He acts friendly but looks angry =).

[FKA_Servo]

Of course it improves
TW1's atmosphere is good but everything else is very meh (despite interesting ideas like the Scoiatel vs The Order etc.)
It was CDPR's first game and they were just a small studio back then, I think you are being too hard on the game
Just play TW2 or TW3
 
Its not like ME where there was a storyline throughout the three games, Save import doesn't matter in TW (one of my gripes with it)

Alright, for reasons unknown, I have been crashing in the trade quarter all night, and this game is like a job. What do I lose from ditching it and just moving on to the second game?

[Gileadan]

Alright, for reasons unknown, I have been crashing in the trade quarter all night, and this game is like a job. What do I lose from ditching it and just moving on to the second game?

Sorry you're having so much trouble with it. I'd say depending on how far you got, the one thing you might lose is a feeling that the trilogy came to a full cycle with TW3 because...

Spoiler

the Wild Hunt shows up for the first time in this game, as well as Ithlinne's prophecy and the coming of the White Frost.

Also, you may miss the totally important tradition that each Witcher game has one quest where Geralt gets totally drunk.
Lastly you can import certain equipment pieces to TW2 for a slightly easier start.
Other than that...all you really lose is the game's own story, which has its moments.

Has been a while that I played...this is all that comes to mind.

[Dubya75]

This discussion is a little pathetic. People are trying so hard to find things DAI does better than TW3, but all those things mentioned so far are not even things TW3 tried to do better. They did it exactly like they wanted it. 

 

The more relevant question to ask, is this: If CD Projekt RED were to make a typically "Dragon Age" game, would it be better than Bioware's attempt?

 

HELL, YES!

[Das Tentakel]

This discussion is a little pathetic. People are trying so hard to find things DAI does better than TW3, but all those things mentioned so far are not even things TW3 tried to do better. They did it exactly like they wanted it. 

 

The more relevant question to ask, is this: If CD Projekt RED were to make a typically "Dragon Age" game, would it be better than Bioware's attempt?

 

HELL, YES!

 

Well, there's one thing DA:I definitely did better in my experience, and that's probably the technical QA.

While the game behaves reasonably well for such a large release, there are noticeably more bugs, glitches and crashes than I experienced with DA:I during the same period after launch.

(part of that, though, may be due to the fact that I ran DA:I on a slightly older i7/GTX 660 Ti system in my living room, rather than my new i5 / GTX 970 PC in my study room. Relatively new but mature hardware can be more stable than really, really new stuff)

 

Then again, I remember TW1 (* shudder * ); TW2 was better, TW3 probably best. Same progression with DA:O, DA2 and DA:I.

Hopefully technical QA is really good by the time Cyberpunk is released.

 

By the way, I never hope CDPR ever makes a DA or DA-ish game, I'd prefer them to remain staunchly European with a Polish core.

For all its good points and bad points, DA is a very North American product. At its best that's pretty damn good, but I prefer variety in my RPG diet

[HowlingSiren]

By the way, I never hope CDPR ever makes a DA or DA-ish game, I'd prefer them to remain staunchly European with a Polish core.

For all its good points and bad points, DA is a very North American product. At its best that's pretty damn good, but I prefer variety in my RPG diet

Completely agree with you. BW are distinctly North American and CDPR are distinctly European, resulting in two different experiences, particularly when it comes to the cultural, societal and mythological influences in the games, and I hope it remains that way too. 

 

I hope BW looks at TW3 to improve their quest design, their storytelling, their open-world immersion, etc. - not to change their identity. And I hope CDPR never gets acquired by a North American publisher. It's great to have this variety. 

[KBomb]

Well, there's one thing DA:I definitely did better in my experience, and that's probably the technical QA.
While the game behaves reasonably well for such a large release, there are noticeably more bugs, glitches and crashes than I experienced with DA:I during the same period after launch.
(part of that, though, may be due to the fact that I ran DA:I on a slightly older i7/GTX 660 Ti system in my living room, rather than my new i5 / GTX 970 PC in my study room. Relatively new but mature hardware can be more stable than really, really new stuff)

Then again, I remember TW1 (* shudder * ); TW2 was better, TW3 probably best. Same progression with DA:O, DA2 and DA:I.
Hopefully technical QA is really good by the time Cyberpunk is released.

By the way, I never hope CDPR ever makes a DA or DA-ish game, I'd prefer them to remain staunchly European with a Polish core.
For all its good points and bad points, DA is a very North American product. At its best that's pretty damn good, but I prefer variety in my RPG diet

I play on the Xbox One and I have been so very lucky (feel like I should knock on wood) that I have not experienced any bugs. I have had a couple of graphical glitches, but nothing major. As much as I hate to say it, DA:I was swimming with bugs. I had to restart several times and my search ring is still messed up.

I know I have read on these forums that some people had very few issues with DAI. It's odd how it tornadoes. Hits some, misses some.

[dreamgazer]

The more relevant question to ask, is this: If CD Projekt RED were to make a typically "Dragon Age" game, would it be better than Bioware's attempt?

 

HELL, YES!

 

How can you say either way? CDPR haven't produced a game without a predefined protagonist, which drastically changes the experience.  Geralt's blue-collar profession and established values play a crucial role in both narrative and game design. 

[KilrB]

I play on the Xbox One and I have been so very lucky (feel like I should knock on wood) that I have not experienced any bugs. I have had a couple of graphical glitches, but nothing major. As much as I hate to say it, DA:I was swimming with bugs. I had to restart several times and my search ring is still messed up.

I know I have read on these forums that some people had very few issues with DAI. It's odd how it tornadoes. Hits some, misses some.

 

Indeed, I play on PC and DA:I was often unplayable due to technical issues.

 

Sometimes it ran fine and others: Black screen, white screen, CTD, stutter, freeze, lag, ...

 

The "patches" only made it worse.

 

I have had no such issues with TW3 as of yet.