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[Rifneno]

Fair enough
 
In general, the wickedness and just how brutal/severe the criminals in TW3 are what won me over. Now, this is a strength AND a weakness as.. People have pointed out before that the level of detail may just go 'too far' for some persons tastes and that's fine.

This, more than anything, is why I love Witcher and CDPR in general.

They don't care if it offends soccer moms and they aren't going to pull any punches. If you're not ready for mature content, and I mean real mature content not just seeing boobs, then stay away from CDPR. I've seen some stuff in TW2/3 that made me sick to my stomach. There is some really disturbing stuff. And that's great. I love that somebody's pushing the envelope instead of catering to the worst thing in the world (SJWs).

You'll never see a Bioware game where you're walking through town and the local religious fanatics are tying innocent people to stakes to burn, and you have to hear them desperately begging for their lives, then the screams of unimaginable pain, and then just the crackling of the fire. Sure, BW villains do horrible stuff, but it's almost all off-screen or even just implied. BW still dances around using the word "rape."

[KBomb]

What DA:I did better:

1]Not having a characters breasts be in a constant state of slo-mo wobbling -and generally leading a life of their own- without any reason whatsover for said movement. ]

4]Prettier world.

#snip

6]Lore. I know probably a whole bunch will disagree, but I don't find the Witcher lore all that impressive. 

 

 

 

..maybe more,  but I can't think of them from the top of my head, and I haven't finished the game.

1. I haven't noticed this. It seems like I would recall all the women having jiggly bewbehs. I saw some topless women at a brothels and even with them moving around, I didn't notice wobbling, slo-mo or otherwise.

 

4. I don't know. There is so much to see and being able to explore the beautiful water life adds to it. Just exploring around, I found this huge beached whale. It was a neat find. Someone told me how they had whales breach next to their boat and you could hear the whale-song. I also came across a field of sunflowers and wolfsbane and it was completely stunning. Not to mention the thunderstorms, they are beautiful in the night sky.

 

6. I love the lore. I love the stories behind the legends and monsters. I find it fascinating. 

 

All this is your opinion, I know. Thought I'd share mine on yours.

 

DAI does better: Allows you to tint your armor. 

[TheOgre]

I'd like to caution you as i love tw3. @rif

There are people who look for different things in games and avoid certain elements. Experience will vary from person to person..

DA widened it's demographic to be far more inclusive. I believe they did so with good intent but it diminished the value I personally have in the universe. I for example like my grim settings with horror and tragedy. Da had that, but they relegated most of it to what I can tell now as codex entry and conversations.

That is to their benefit as not everyone looks for that in an rpg. Adventure, personal stories and character interaction is what they were aiming for. You get that in tw3 too, along with the elements I personally look for, gritty, unapologetic and vile. The villains of tw3? Love them, because it feels ever so good to shove a blade in their gut and watch them crumble.

I know a reasonable fellow on the forum here that doesn't appreciate the stuff that I do in the quantity presented in tw3. He is probably far more mentally mature than I am at this time. That's okay, different strokes for different folks.

You and I can agree that we like our gritty vicious scenes, but again, others more responsible and mentally aged than myself may just want to escape from the brutal outside world. They look for a story that won't remind them that the world is filled with sadistic bastards inflicting pain on others because they feel like it ((North Korea... I am looking at your leader)).

So try to ease up on other posters that aren't of the same mindset. No one likes being talked down too for looking for something else in a game.

Cheers mate

[MoonDrummer]

DA has Morrigan and Morrigan > Yen > Triss 

 

*Waits for Steel's response*

Kiera>Triss>Morrigan>Yen

[TheOgre]

Kiera>Triss>Morrigan>Yen

How dare you differ your list ! Morrigan should be at the top of that list.

[correctamundo]

Character creation, companions, party banter =)

 

Inquisition hooked me more or less straight away whereas in TW3 I am still running around in white orchard looking for a purpose. Killing, deserters, ghouls, drowners, wolves left and right of course.

[Senjougahara Hitagi]

It's kinda hard to describe. I liked the fact that I can play as a woman in DAI but I liked playing as Geralt more, even though he's... well Geralt. 'cause while I can't customize him, he is still more interesting then the Inquisitor could ever hoped to be, no matter how long I spent in the CC, the in game options in terms of conversations are just lacking. Also, once I get into the first conversation in DAI and none of the options that are given to me corresponds with what I'd actually want to tell the other person, this "illusion" that I'm playing "me" and not someone else is just gone. Like that.

 

Also, I feel like listing things like party banter and companions (and even the character creator) is well... missing the point. That's like saying that Witcher 3 did Gwent better than DAI. It's true but it's also pointless. Every single game ever with a character creator did a better job at having a character creator then Witcher 3 did. Ah well... whatever. I's the internet. 

[Rifneno]

There are people who look for different things in games and avoid certain elements. Experience will vary from person to person..

That's fine. What's not fine is whining when a game is different. Only wanting to play RPGs where you can make your own generic cardboard cutout character, fine. Putting down RPGs because they have a preset character with a rich background and interesting story instead of a generic cardboard cutout like Bethesda and most Bioware games? Not even in the same universe as fine. I don't like the Sims, but I'm not going to go into discussions about it and whine that it doesn't fit my personal preferences. That would be unbelievably stupid.

DA widened it's demographic to be far more inclusive. I believe they did so with good intent but it diminished the value I personally have in the universe. I for example like my grim settings with horror and tragedy. Da had that, but they relegated most of it to what I can tell now as codex entry and conversations.

See, what's funny is that they weren't trying for that. They were trying for the grim, gritty setting they just sucked at it. I remember one of DA's writers saying proudly that DAI was as dark and gritty and all that as Game of Thrones.

Yeah, I know, I laughed til my lungs hurt.

You and I can agree that we like our gritty vicious scenes, but again, others more responsible and mentally aged than myself may just want to escape from the brutal outside world. They look for a story that won't remind them that the world is filled with sadistic bastards inflicting pain on others because they feel like it ((North Korea... I am looking at your leader)).

- I do hope you're not implying there's more maturity in avoiding dark and bloody themes.
- So mages and nonhumans being impaled and burned at the stake are too reminiscent of real world events? Things that aren't real and methods of execution that haven't been widespread in hundreds of years?

Kiera>Triss>Morrigan>Yen

Triss > Keira > Any romance BW has ever written. Yen is an awful person, I don't even want to discuss her. And after BG2, ME, DAO, ME2, DA2 (*vomit*), ME3, and DAI, I've honestly never been into any BW romance.

[TheOgre]

I'm not arguing against ya mate. I'm just pointing out that I personally am not more mature for appreciating grim settings and witch burning, actual villainy and what have you. For example, I am an ogre that is between jobs but luckily, I have no one to depend on me for food and will personally never want that burden ever.

Oh and, yeah I scoffed at that comment the representative made about being dark like game of Thrones. Hah.

[dsl08002]

I think that what is most funny is that 30Dproject managed to accomplish everything what Bioware said was impossible to do.

[SardaukarElite]

Is this thread a drink?

 

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I haven't played W3, so going off what I've seen I'd say lip sync.

[Torgette]

I think the wacky fantastic landscapes are more interesting and memorable than the more realistic zones of TW3, then again the same is true of TW1 and 2 having more memorable zones than TW3 - 3 sort of stretches things thin, no? That's all subjective though, I do think objectively the combat and action animation is off for TW3 and most action games do it better than that game, it's more forgiving than TW2 for sure but it's still not great. I also think you spend too much time looking at the map in TW3, it's very hard to explore without getting lost in that game or going in circles and I find myself constantly opening and closing the map. I also wish that when you manually reload a save that it would just load instead of playing that serial-tv narrated story bit every time.

 

That's all I can think of for now. There's a big 'ole list I made of specific comparisons between the two games on specific points in the main feedback thread, post #3019 IIRC.

[yawnandshrug]

Triss > Keira > Any romance BW has ever written. Yen is an awful person, I don't even want to discuss her. And after BG2, ME, DAO, ME2, DA2 (*vomit*), ME3, and DAI, I've honestly never been into any BW romance.

 Triss=Yen > Keira > Bioware Romances (except maybe Lelianna.... redheads...)

 

Also I love how we've partially turned this thread into a which Witcher 3 romance is the best thread.

[Felya87]

DAI have CC, four races to select, and expecially gender. That only make it light years better in my eyes than every Witcher games.

Nothing for me is more satisfating than playng my gender and playng a badass woman, expecially in DAI where my character doen't have to wear stupid boobplate but can wear actually badass armour. Even better, my female character can enter in a relationship and find love with a male character.

Is so rare to find a female protagonist story who have a romantic story too in videogames, that just this lift my heart while playng a BioWare game (of course, it would be great if BioWare decide to give the straight ladyes a little less heartbreak, because the thrope is becaming old).

 

Crafting armour and weapons is great, and with the tinting table is even better. The personalization of the character's clothes and armour in DAI can be improved, but is already great (tinting/changing clothes at Skyhold, more armour models to craft).

 

Character are varied and interesting, and the interactions are great. Party banters, dialogues, cutscene. Make me want always more.

 

Party based combact with tacticts. I'm in love with the combat, but I must admit I play on PS4, and with a pad is great.

 

Very different areas. All are a joy for the eyes, and they just needed some cinematic to be more valorised.

 

Lore: is completely original, not from a book, and doesn't have real constrictions. I love the fact that every population, non only races, are very different one from the other. Like the venice/versailles style Orlalis, and the medieval Ferelden.

 

Tasteful rapresentation of sexuality and women. Is something that I really like in DA. I may do rarely gay/lesbian romances (but Dorian is Dorian. Can't resist  ) but I really appreciate that are there. And I really appreciate that there are no mandatory sex scene. (expecially porn style)

 

Is DAI perfect? of course no! but the direction is the right one, it just need some touch here and there, and the game is great.

[Schmonozov]

Nothing at all, DA:I was a generic single-player MMO, CDPR's team straight up outclasses Biowares team in terms of raw talent.

 

That said I'm curious how far Bioware is willing to go to cater to the SJW-crowd, will we be able to play a character that identifies as a gaylesbianbisexual genderbend reaper in the next mass effect maybe? Will everyone wear burqas? See in the next episode of Bioware does games.

[Milan92]

[Torgette]

 

Nothing at all, DA:I was a generic single-player MMO, CDPR's team straight up outclasses Biowares team in terms of raw talent.

 

That said I'm curious how far Bioware is willing to go to cater to the SJW-crowd, will we be able to play a character that identifies as a gaylesbianbisexual genderbend reaper in the next mass effect maybe? Will everyone wear burqas? See in the next episode of Bioware does games.

 

 

Both games are politically correct open world tolkien trash anyways, give me GTA5 any day of the week.

[Milan92]

I don't even want to know, do I? 

 

Spoiler

The burning of sorceresses and herbalists and whoever else was involved with magic. The Witcher 3 makes the Mage/Templar war look like a bunch of children playing around.

[yawnandshrug]

There's nothing like running over an old fart "ahem" senior citizen with a ferrari to start my morning

[lynroy]

Is this thread a drink?

 

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I haven't played W3, so going off what I've seen I'd say lip sync.

*checks rules* Yes, it is. Drink up.

[SharpWalkers]

"what DAI does better than TW3"

 

that isn't asking for an opinion, that statement is asking for facts

 

That statement is bad English. It's asking what people think DA:I did better than TW3, obviously. And there are very little things that are actually objective when it comes to comparing anything remotely like videogames. 

 

 

1. I haven't noticed this. It seems like I would recall all the women having jiggly bewbehs. I saw some topless women at a brothels and even with them moving around, I didn't notice wobbling, slo-mo or otherwise.

 

4. I don't know. There is so much to see and being able to explore the beautiful water life adds to it. Just exploring around, I found this huge beached whale. It was a neat find. Someone told me how they had whales breach next to their boat and you could hear the whale-song. I also came across a field of sunflowers and wolfsbane and it was completely stunning. Not to mention the thunderstorms, they are beautiful in the night sky.

 

6. I love the lore. I love the stories behind the legends and monsters. I find it fascinating. 

 

All this is your opinion, I know. Thought I'd share mine on yours.

 

DAI does better: Allows you to tint your armor. 

 

1] Keira Metz literally can not stop "blowing in the wind" even when she's not moving, it's actually annoying. 

 

4] I very delibirately chose the word "Prettier". It's a prettier, more colorful world, with often very stylized design. The Witcher is muddy and wet and dirty, and I got very sick of the swampy enviroment -that I've, so far, spend most of my time in- very quickly. So the "prettier" world got my preference. That's not to say there isn't great beauty in the area, and like I said the cities(!). When I walked into Oxford--ehm.. Oxenfurd the first time I remember thinking "I've never seen such a Medieval-y town in a video game, ever."

 

6] I don't know, maybe I just haven't encountered the good parts.. could be. But, like I said, so far I'm not very impressed. Not to say it's bad -not at all. Maybe dissapointed would be a better word, since so many people say so many wonderful thing about the world of the Witcher, and I'm mostly thinking "meh." And inclusions, twisted or not, like Cinderella just plain annoy me. 

[Rifneno]

I'm not arguing against ya mate. I'm just pointing out that I personally am not more mature for appreciating grim settings and witch burning, actual villainy and what have you. For example, I am an ogre that is between jobs but luckily, I have no one to depend on me for food and will personally never want that burden ever.

Oh and, yeah I scoffed at that comment the representative made about being dark like game of Thrones. Hah.

Agreed, no one is more "mature" simply because of their tastes. In fairness though, it's more common to hear accusations that people who go for the mature content are less mature themselves because a lot of people think "mature content" is just code for "nudity." A bit of T&A wouldn't even make the list of top 25 things in TW3 that children shouldn't see.

People make a lot of valid criticisms toward TW3, I'm just bothered by the "no CC" one because I've been debating TW since TW1 and I'm just soooo bloody tired of hearing people rag on the game for it. And almost everyone that does it treats it as if it's entirely a negative thing and not a tradeoff. Yes, a lot of people love to make their own characters. But how much of TW's content is dependant on Geralt's fixed background? How many of the significant characters are only there because they're old acquaintances of Geralt's? Meanwhile, in Dragon Age, no one can even say your name because it can be anything. Dalish Inquisitors never get to see their clan because it's one of a multitude of backgrounds and the game doesn't want to make presumptions about the PC's interactions with them. Meanwhile, Geralt gets some great content with characters like Zoltan because CDPR had a static character to work with. It's a trade off, and people need to stop acting like the lack of CC is just plain bad.

Triss=Yen > Keira > Bioware Romances (except maybe Lelianna.... redheads...)
 
Also I love how we've partially turned this thread into a which Witcher 3 romance is the best thread.

Yen's a user and a manipulator. She's every adjective you can think of that starts with "self" (save for "selfless" of course). Honest question, anyone that thinks Yen is any good, have you ever been in a real life relationship with someone manipulative and untrustworthy? I have, and I've considered it an instant dealbreaker ever since.

And something else that bothers me: Yen keeps harping on about Geralt sleeping with Triss when he had amnesia. Meanwhile, the only reason she stopped sleeping with Istredd was because he and Geralt were going to fight to the death over her if she didn't just pick one. Even if we're not going to count the novels, pretty much the first thing Letho tells us about Yen after telling us she's alive is that she was trying to screw his witcher crew. Where the bloody hell does Yen get off judging Geralt? I can't stand Yen.

[yawnandshrug]

Yen's a user and a manipulator. She's every adjective you can think of that starts with "self" (save for "selfless" of course). Honest question, anyone that thinks Yen is any good, have you ever been in a real life relationship with someone manipulative and untrustworthy? I have, and I've considered it an instant dealbreaker ever since.

And something else that bothers me: Yen keeps harping on about Geralt sleeping with Triss when he had amnesia. Meanwhile, the only reason she stopped sleeping with Istredd was because he and Geralt were going to fight to the death over her if she didn't just pick one. Even if we're not going to count the novels, pretty much the first thing Letho tells us about Yen after telling us she's alive is that she was trying to screw his witcher crew. Where the bloody hell does Yen get off judging Geralt? I can't stand Yen.

 

Hmm sounds like every other relationship I've ever had

 

Yen is by no means nice, but I've always seen her as a bitter, insecure barren woman and abused ex-hunchback rather than someone who is actively malicious. And neither is Geralt a shining example of morality so I've always thought they go together well in a horribly dysfunctional sometimes sweet sort of way. Still, that we can have this discussion is, however you see it, a sign that there is a far more nuanced relationship ad better writing than anything DAI offers.

 

Also you know...sex on a unicorn. I'm willing to overlook alot of things on that count.