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[HowlingSiren]

 

Still I repeat this is 'Feedback & Suggestion' side of thread which means in here topics like reviews on game,personal thoughts on this game and suggestions of what could be brought to game.....are ones that should be in this thread! 

I don't see how this is feedback on anything related to DAI or suggestion on anything related to DAI again.Only thing I see is butthurt kids trying to compete two opposite games in here.

This thread has "better than" in the title. Which naturally invites a comparison between the 2 games. Both TW3 and DAI are similar games that occupy the same space (and one could argue that BW and CDPR are in fact competitors), and I don't personally see any issue with comparing them, provided it's done in a constructive manner. I agree however that there is already a thread on this same topic, and that this one is redundant.  

 

I also think that 99% of the posters on this forum are invested in BW, and not just bored trolls or butthurt kids, as you put it. Why else would we still be here six months after the last game's release if we did not experience something pretty damn special when playing a BW game? If we did not hope to experience it again in the next game?  Well, it just so happens that many BW fans who played TW3 saw in another game several outstanding features that they would like to see integrated into the next BW games, and are logically providing feedback about those features on the BW forum. Nothing wrong with that, IMHO. The only people making it unpleasant are those who cannot stand any criticism of DAI, and those who criticize DAI in an insulting, entitled, condescending manner. Sadly don't see a way to avoid those, as it's the internet... 

[Morty Smith]

 

I also think that 99% of the posters on this forum are invested in BW, and not just bored trolls or butthurt kids, as you put it. Why else would we still be here six months after the last game's release if we did not experience something pretty damn special when playing a BW game?

 

 

I´m just here because of his smile.

 

 

and his hair.

 

 

what´s a dragon age?

[Han Shot First]

Tolkien's elves are all glamour queens that build their cities on waterfalls because hot damn it looks cool. I'm glad others have tried to deviate.

 

They are also ridiculous Sues. More beautiful than humans? Check. More powerful than humans? Check. More intelligent than humans? Check. More magical than humans? Check. Immortal and immune to disease? Check. Even the bit about them being corrupted into orcs was being retconned by Tolkien at the end, with him leaning more towards a human origin for the Orcs.

 

The only real flaw the elves have is a tendency towards excessive pride or xenophobia at times, all of which is also found among the human kings and in usually larger doses.

 

I'm a huge fan of LOTR, but Tolkien's elves should stay in Tolkiens books. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

How old is that picture of Laidlaw?

[Saphiron123]

I´m just here because of his smile.

 

 

and his hair.

 

 

what´s a dragon age?

Ugh, these guys turned dragon age into a glorified MMO. They made the qunari super accepting to match their politics and made inquisition extremely preachy, they cut out tactics, attribute points, most of our skills, turned mages into a joke and made templars pointless, turned the in depth voiced side quests we used to know into mindless fetch questing with zero replayability... I could go on, but they don't give a single F about what was great about past games.

[AresKeith]

Ugh, these guys turned dragon age into a glorified MMO. They made the qunari super accepting to match their politics and made inquisition extremely preachy, they cut out tactics, attribute points, most of our skills, turned mages into a joke and made templars pointless, turned the in depth voiced side quests we used to know into mindless fetch questing with zero replayability... I could go on, but they don't give a single F about what was great about past games.

 

[Saphiron123]

If I sound bitter, I am.

Consider this, one of these two men looked at the final product, saw quests like "collect 50 copies of Varrick's book" and thought "Yeah, that is what dragon age should be".

Lame. Now if you'll excuse me, they want me to go collect freaking bear claws now instead of playing an actual side quest with actual voice acting and companion dialogue. I do this knowing solas will waste his barrier 20 seconds before the fight begins, and that varrick will run right up to the monsters and get himself killed for no reason at all.

[Apollexander]

Most things, in my estimation.  A lot of that is just preference on my part, but having watched the boyfriend play a good chunk of The Witcher 3 side-by-side with my gaming on Inquisition, I never felt the urge to switch games.

 

Story-wise, I find The Witcher's story convoluted and hard to follow.  My boyfriend actually stopped and restarted for that reason.  He has numerous complaints about the gameplay, as well, with XP being hard to come by and sudden jumps in the static levels of the enemy.  

 

Visually, both have stunning graphics, but stunning graphics are almost something expected with this generation of games.  I like what DAI chose to turn that perfect camera towards.  The Witcher suffers from serious "real is brown" that plagued DA's first two games.  The medieval vilages look authentic, and authentically ugly.  I've never seen such well-rendered pigpens.  The cutscenes are nicely rendered, but there's a lot of them.  Like JRPG a lot.  It looks like a movie sometimes.

 

But for me, the clincher is Geralt himself.  I don't like him.  He's a thirteen-year-old boy's power fantasy.  With boys-only clubhouse of powers that include perfect birth control and immunity to STIs - he's a mutant for consequence-free sex! - and that breathy voice that bad action-movie voice that sounds like he's having breathing problems.  There's even a section in the strat guide about all the women he can have sex with!  

 

It feels one giant leap below DAI's relationships in terms of maturity.

 

I also find it odd that a community that once wanted Origins 2 for the next DA game now wants them to model their next game after the most static protagoist in the current RPG gen.

 

Add to that so much fantasy boilerplate with no deconstruction, right down to typical dwarves with Scottish accents, and there's not much to recommend it.  It feels like it belongs to another era.

 

The sidequests look well-done.  And engaging, and better-written than the main plot.  That's all I can find to recommend it, and the only thing I might want the devs to look at.

WoW! I see your signature and wish it comes true

[AresKeith]

If I sound bitter, I am.

Consider this, one of these two men looked at the final product, saw quests like "collect 50 copies of Varrick's book" and thought "Yeah, that is what dragon age should be".

Lame. Now if you'll excuse me, they want me to go collect freaking bear claws now instead of playing an actual side quest with actual voice acting and companion dialogue. I do this knowing solas will waste his barrier 20 seconds before the fight begins, and that varrick will run right up to the monsters and get himself killed for no reason at all.

 

Are you on the dev team to know what they're thinking?

[TheOgre]

Are you on the dev team to know what they're thinking?

 

 

Nope, and you have a point even though that wasn't pointed at me. If there's one thing I can actually say negatively about them, is letting them deviate qunari design from DA2 to DAI. That's my one thing I'm going to hold onto. Otherwise, it is their series.

[Xetykins]

Well, dragon age has Alistair. Don't judge me!

Seriously, I've been watching a lot of Witcher let's play and watched someone play it, and I'm just totally blown away with the world building, quests, story, the monsters are awesome!! I haven't seen the vid past giving the ear to the crones yet , but I really hope you could kill them. And Geralt's relationship and devotion to his girls and friends, specially to Ciri. Whoever said Geralt is an emotionless husk is really wrong. Pity, I really don't like playing male so I'm just a bystander while this awesomeness is going on. I guess that's another point for DAI. Alistair,CC and awesome companions. The rest I'm afraid goes to TW3.

But I'm afraid my vote would be on a game that I could play.

[Morty Smith]

Ugh, these guys turned dragon age into a glorified MMO. They made the qunari super accepting to match their politics and made inquisition extremely preachy, they cut out tactics, attribute points, most of our skills, turned mages into a joke and made templars pointless, turned the in depth voiced side quests we used to know into mindless fetch questing with zero replayability... I could go on, but they don't give a single F about what was great about past games.

 

 

@Sylvius: Sometime BT* (before toxicity)

[TheOgre]

 

It's just so cute, despicably so!

[AresKeith]

Nope, and you have a point even though that wasn't pointed at me. If there's one thing I can actually say negatively about them, is letting them deviate qunari design from DA2 to DAI. That's my one thing I'm going to hold onto. Otherwise, it is their series.

 

I honestly don't have a issue with that because like every other race it would make sense if not every Qunari looks the same, some might look more "human" and some might look more "beast in a way" you know?

[TheOgre]

I honestly don't have a issue with that because like every other race it would make sense if not every Qunari looks the same, some might look more "human" and some might look more "beast in a way" you know?

True, options are a beautiful thing.. but can you deny qunari got screwed over in CC? Hair was atrocious, our faces barely looked.. Different from humans.. Just an opinion that they fell very short for qunari in general.

[AresKeith]

True, options are a beautiful thing.. but can you deny qunari got screwed over in CC? Hair was atrocious, our faces barely looked.. Different from humans.. Just an opinion that they fell very short for qunari in general.

 

Oh I agree hair especially for the qunari was really bad most likely due to being late additions and FB3 issues, hopefully next time it's a massive improvment

 

However I do feel the "human" faces was because of CC purposes

[Elhanan]

True, options are a beautiful thing.. but can you deny qunari got screwed over in CC? Hair was atrocious, our faces barely looked.. Different from humans.. Just an opinion that they fell very short for qunari in general.

I deny it, though it did take some time to get my Inq to look presentable. But it also took time to get my Dwarf and Human Inq's to look appealing to my eye. At least I had the detailed CC to give me the choices.

[FKA_Servo]

True, options are a beautiful thing.. but can you deny qunari got screwed over in CC? Hair was atrocious, our faces barely looked.. Different from humans.. Just an opinion that they fell very short for qunari in general.

 

I deny it, though it did take some time to get my Inq to look presentable. But it also took time to get my Dwarf and Human Inq's to look appealing to my eye. At least I had the detailed CC to give me the choices.

 

Even I think you're defending the indefensible here, dude. The qunari CC got the shortest end of the stick in almost every respect, and it's such a shame. The horns look kinda stupid (fine, subjective) and the hair is so limited as to render choice basically inapplicable (essentially an objective observation - it really is that bad). Their proportions are a little messed up too, with their tiny little heads.

 

I also think they more or less killed it with the design in DA2, though it's a shame they didn't seem to have the time or money to make more than one model.

[Rawgrim]

>why DA:I is better

>lists three extremely subjective reasons

 

 

that said, I suppose the superior import system is true, you know ignoring that DA retcons half of your choices anyways, in addition to the extremely limited import decisions that actually do matter.  At least the Witcher devs are upfront about not really caring about imports

 

This.

[Elhanan]

Even I think you're defending the indefensible here, dude. The qunari CC got the shortest end of the stick in almost every respect, and it's such a shame. The horns look kinda stupid (fine, subjective) and the hair is so limited as to render choice basically inapplicable (essentially an objective observation - it really is that bad). Their proportions are a little messed up too, with their tiny little heads.
 
I also think they more or less killed it with the design in DA2, though it's a shame they didn't seem to have the time or money to make more than one model.

While I would have liked to have looked and sounded like the Arishok from DA2, I am pleased with the Qunari look I have currently. It took me much longer to get the Human Male Mage to look as good in a cut-scene as it appeared in the CC. And now with the Black Emporium mirror, if a change is desired, it is even easier.

[txgoldrush]

 

Face it, TW3 is a better game than DAI and its success shows. Its more successful critically, and it will probably be more successful commercially.

 

DAI is only better at TW3 in things CDP did not try to do in the first place, everything else, CDP annihilates DAI.

 

Dragon Age fans need to get over it and realize that the game is under Witcher 3's bar, whether you like it or not.

 

Bioware accepted compromises of false dilemmas, CDPR didn't.

[FKA_Servo]

Hair notwithstanding (I really don't think it's awesome, but it's not as bad as some people think, apart from Qunari), I think that DAI does have the best CC Bioware has ever made. But sadly, it's the least usable one too. At least now we can fix any mistakes caused by the terrible lighting in the (equally terribly lit) BE. Unfortunately, there's still no way for us to really save faces we like for tweaking and/or re-using in future playthroughs.

 

With the absence of face codes (which was such a good idea that I don't know how they haven't reused it for every damn game since ME2), I really want to know how difficult it would have been to give us actual, visible coords when we're messing around on those goddamn grids. At least then we could have recorded every slider position and every grid coordinate and been able to recreate the faces perfectly.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

Face it, TW3 is a better game than DAI 

Having played both, I disagree.

[Rifneno]

You know what I find strange? Some years back when Final Fantasy XIII was announced to have a female protagonist, a bunch of people refused to play it on the grounds they don't want to play as a girl. The gaming community in general treated them with scorn. But when the topic comes to Witcher, I've seen dozens of people say they refuse to play as a male. Curiously, I've never seen any scorn at the exact same concept with the genders reversed.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

You know what I find strange? Some years back when Final Fantasy XIII was announced to have a female protagonist, a bunch of people refused to play it on the grounds they don't want to play as a girl. The gaming community in general treated them with scorn. But when the topic comes to Witcher, I've seen dozens of people say they refuse to play as a male. Curiously, I've never seen any scorn at the exact same concept with the genders reversed.

You mean the Internet has double standards? No!