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[CrazyRah]

War itself is a business. I can't say you're wrong, but a war is an easy way to create jobs, get people working and so on and so forth. It does bring positives and negatives, and besides, we can easily make money selling weapons to other factions. That's why it can benefit us. As long as America isn't burning it can be beneficial. 

 

But if things get too costly, then that's when you start running out of resources. Once we get fighting, yes jobs are created and such, but again, you need money to give out, so I suppose it's a... double edged sword? Hmm? 

 

Again though, good detailed points are being made here, ones I haven't considered, so perhaps, I should maintain a more... neutral stance. 

 

War also cause a lot of chaos and destabilze regions and that stuff is very, very, very bad for an economy, War help one industry, screws over countless others

[Ambivalent]

Anything except US intervention. And thank the force that won't happen until US satisfies Putin.

 

Everyone with a half brain knows US's foreign policy. Support your enemy's enemy, when the "tool" you control get rid of your leash, invade the country, slaughter a few million civilians, put on a puppet regime, drain its resources, make a Hollywood propaganda movie.

 

At the very least I'd hate to watch yet another piece of "art" glorifying invaders while alienating the real innocent ones. 

[X Equestris]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the U.S. had plenty of reason to go to war against Japan prior the Pearl Harbor. The Japanese empire had a series of hostile take overs on various pacific islands and invaded the Philippines (with American soldiers and assets on it).

No, that all happened at roughly the same time as Pearl Harbor, and it's part of what made the reaction worse. Japan had been negotiating in bad faith, trying to stall things until their forces were in position. The U.S. did have knowledge of a possible imminent attack, but the decoded message didn't specify a target.

[God]

Anything except US intervention. And thank the force that won't happen until US satisfies Putin.

 

Everyone with a half brain knows US's foreign policy. Support your enemy's enemy, when the "tool" you control get rid of your leash, invade the country, slaughter a few million civilians, put on a puppet regime, drain its resources, make a Hollywood propaganda movie.

 

At the very least I'd hate to watch yet another piece of "art" glorifying invaders while alienating the real innocent ones. 

 

Sounds like you don't know US foreign policy at all.

[God]

What is the world doing about ISIS? I don't know, what are you doing about ISIS? People seem to talk about stopping them, but at the end of the day, I'm the guy that gets stuck with the job. 

 

It's alright, I said I'd do it, and I meant it. And I've been doing it.

 

I can give you what the U.S. Central Command for the area (CENTCOM) has said about it, and I think more than a few people here know what I've been involved with here in Sunni Baghdad.

 

Just last on month on May 13, we nailed the top head of ISIS. The issue here is now about how we can 'disinfect' ISIS and stabilize security zones after they've been re-garrisoned by Iraqi Security Forces. Many of these ISIS fighters are trying to deactivate themselves and disperse with the intent to sow discord and passion into those in the liberated regions. It's my estimation that ISIS isn't able to walk its talk yet, but they are not a threat to be ignored. They have the potential to be a much more potent force, and one that can physically threaten the Levant states if they could organize their forces.

 

Daily, I organize collection and proper dissemination of interviews, reports, and talks we gather from various native news sources, personal interviews with civilians who come forward with knowledge, and coordinated operations with allied intel gathering. As well, we monitor social media and online activities heavily: They aren't exactly subtle in how or what they say they're going to do, and less so when they say what they're going to do about it.

 

After I get all the reports from my collection and analyst teams, I disseminate the information to the current Battalion S-1, give him the recommendations for actions, and send it onto the Navy or Air Force to do their good work with the drones and air strikes. And they are working. Since we got involved, ISIS expansion has almost entirely stopped completely. Statistics won't make much sense here, so I won't bother posting them. They're having a nasty habit of losing their leaders to traffic incidents caused by an inbound AGM travelling at 1700 mph into their car, or having a 2,000 lbs. JDAM come flying down their chimney.

 

Don't worry guys, none of this is classified. Telling you what I do isn't the same as telling you as what I'm doing.

[God]

Why is the the US leadership so competent in conspiracy theories? That's some Bond Villain level of planning there.

 

Why is there even talk of a conspiracy theory here at all.

 

We have a plan for our foreign policy. It's not a perfect plan, but it's effective, as effective as it can be with a near unpleasible media and populace.

 

Things I don't get about civilians. You want something to be done about extremist groups and tyrants and rogue states, but you don't want to get involved yourself (as in, your country), and you don't want us to kill anyone. You can't have your cake and eat it too. There's no pleasing a lot of the people. You want us to do our job without doing our job. To foreigners outside the US, you want Americans (and our allies) to leave well enough alone and not be the global police, but when crisis #4621 pops up in some armpit region, the first thing you look to is us when soft power doesn't work to your advantage. And lucky for you guys, we maintain an utterly massive projection and logistical/transport capital around the globe. 

 

Sorry, that's how we fix problems here. We put them down and ensure that lineage of evolution will never continue. 

 

As Mordin from Mass Effect put it, there are a lot of ways to help people. Sometimes, you can heal them, and sometimes you can kill dangerous individuals.

[God]

Will probably collapse on itself due to overextension, if not by outside intervention. Their "five year" plan is hilarious. 

 

You should see how they keep 'updating their vision', then executing or punishing the people who don't coordinate with each other. One is a global caliphate, the other is maybe a part of Baghdad and a little bit of extension further West over the next 5 years. Then the one's that do it 'wrong' (I have no idea how they judge this) get their head left behind for some ISF member to find then handed over to us. 

 

That's how you know that American media globalization has gone too far. Iraqi Security Forces come to us (Military Intelligence) with dismembered cadavers because they think MI = CSI. It's really funny actually. 

[Eternal Phoenix]

^
Is that a new copypasta?
 
I did my best with it:
 
"What is the world doing about MOV's necromancy? I don't know, what are you doing about MOV's necromancy? People seem to talk about stopping him, but at the end of the day, I'm the guy that gets stuck with the job.

It's alright, I said I'd do it, and I meant it. And I've been doing it.

I can give you what the BSN Central Command for the area (BSCENTCOM) has said about it, and I think more than a few people here know what I've been involved with here in The Lobby.

Just last on month on May 13, we nailed the officer of the forum's necromancer MOV. The issue here is now about how we can 'disinfect' MOV and stabilize security zones after they've been re-garrisoned by MOV's Hacker Forces. Many of these hackers are trying to deactivate themselves and disperse with the intent to sow discord and passion into those in the liberated sub forums on the BSN. It's my estimation that the hackers aren't able to walk their talk yet, but they are not a threat to be ignored. They have the potential to be a much more potent force, and one that can physically threaten the Lobby if they could resurrect more dead user accounts.

Daily, I organize collection and proper dissemination of interviews, reports, and talks we gather from various forum users, personal interviews with users who come forward with knowledge, and coordinated operations with allied sub-forums on the BSN. As well, we monitor the BSN and user's online activities heavily: They aren't exactly subtle in how or what they say they're going to do, and less so when they say what they're going to do about it.

After I get all the reports from my collection and analyst teams, I disseminate the information to the current leading Mod-Force S-1, give him the recommendations for actions, and send it onto Gaider or BiowareMod02 to do their good work with the bans and warnings. And they are working. Since we got involved, MOV's necromancy has almost entirely stopped completely. Statistics won't make much sense here, so I won't bother posting them. He's having a nasty habit of losing his threads to traffic incidents caused by an inbound of new users.

Don't worry guys, none of this is classified."

[God]

That is brilliant!

[Fast Jimmy]

Why is the the US leadership so competent in conspiracy theories? That's some Bond Villain level of planning there.

 

Me sentiments exactly... trust me, I've worked with many federal government employees and departments at my various gigs. They are the most indecisive, slow-moving, unorganized bunch you're likely to ever meet. The fact that so much intent and conspiracy gets attributed to what are likely genuinely bad decisions is somewhat humorous.

 

 

EDIT: Although if you ever run into someone who works for the Northern Regional Personnel Center OR the Eastern Regional Support Center... RUN. Run far, run fast. Because they are coming for you with black helicopters in the night.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Me sentiments exactly... trust me, I've worked with many federal government employees and departments at my various gigs. They are the most indecisive, slow-moving, unorganized bunch you're likely to ever meet. The fact that so much intent and conspiracy gets attributed to what are likely genuinely bad decisions is somewhat humorous.

 

 

EDIT: Although if you ever run into someone who works for the Northern Regional Personnel Center OR the Eastern Regional Support Center... RUN. Run far, run fast. Because they are coming for you in black helicopters in the night.

 

 

Most govt. departments are filled with people who might not make it in the private sector..

[The Devlish Redhead]

That is brilliant!

I like your avatar..

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I really don't like the Saudi government, but there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it right now. The best that can be hoped for is that alternative fuel sources or different places of oil production make the need for Middle Eastern oil obsolete, and we can let the entire region economically wither on the vine.

 

Or you can go Green, using electric cars and stuff. Because like 90% of Earth's oil is in middle east.

[X Equestris]

Or you can go Green, using electric cars and stuff. Because like 90% of Earth's oil is in middle east.

That's pretty much what I meant. I would push for hydrogen fuel cells, personally. However, it will take time for car companies and the like to transition. I think it would be wise to use compressed natural gas as an intermediate step.

[God]

I like your avatar..

 

Your username describes me perfectly. 

[mybudgee]

 

Everyone with a half brain knows US's foreign policy. Support your enemy's enemy, when the "tool" you control get rid of your leash, invade the country, slaughter a few million civilians, put on a puppet regime, drain its resources, make a Hollywood propaganda movie.

 

At the very least I'd hate to watch yet another piece of "art" glorifying invaders while alienating the real innocent ones. 

[Jehuty]

Can't we just build terminators and unleash them on ISIS? 

[General TSAR]

Guys, I have the perfect solution:

1. Manufacture about 100,000 in various sizes.

2. Post them everywhere east of IS and contested territory.

3. ???

4. Profit.  

[General TSAR]

Even better.

 

Respect.

[Jehuty]

Guys, I have the perfect solution:

1. Manufacture about 100,000 in various sizes.

2. Post them everywhere east of IS and contested territory.

3. ???

4. Profit.  

Epic win. 

[Ambivalent]

Sounds like you don't know US foreign policy at all.

 

Really?

 

Haven't US supported Saddam in Iraq-Iran War then when lost his leash bombed country, then even invaded it for "democracy" ? Side effect of democracy were civilian deaths and US sucking its oil. Check support part at Iraq side when Saddam was still "dictator" but "helpful" to US cause: (http://en.wikipedia....i/Iran–Iraq_War)

 

And US's casus belli for Iraq was invalid. Nuclear missiles, biological warheads etc were no where to be found and info about them were fabricated.  ( http://edition.cnn.c...1/23/bush.iraq/ )

 

Saddam would lauch a few one at least, no? He did at Halabja against a lesser "danger" why wouldn't he do same against an invading US army?( http://en.wikipedia....chemical_attack )

 

Haven't Osama was BFF with US years ago? Of course when he lost his control it was all forgotten. US helped him or at the very least similar jihadists against Soviets. (http://en.wikipedia....eration_Cyclone)

 

While trying to "locate" him US invaded Afghanistan because that place is literally a natural "barricade" between Russia and Central Asia. At last time i checked they were fighting against Taliban which they created, armed and helped against Soviets. 

 

But have it your way. Act like world politics started yesterday with a brand new enemy fell from the sky, just like in Orwell's 1984. 

[Neoleviathan]

Despite how horrible ISIS & they're ilk are, I still would think a good portion of their number are honest men who could be reasoned with... So I would offer full pardons & jobs for any who'd take it, in return for renouncing the cause & turning in radicals. Give them work, get them invested in their own futures & in community, give them something to be proud for that doesn't involve violence.