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[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Argent's thread on kits you've recently found to be fun has always generated a steady stream of posts. Thinking about that made me decide to suggest a slightly different idea, which is to post a kit that you've experimented with and that has finally become the perfect setup for the way you play it. Rather than simply posting a build, why not take the time to explain how you play it, why you think your weapon, gear, and ammo choices (for example) are the best fit for that kit.

 

I'm asking because it seems there is still a lot of stored knowledge in the player base that has only been shared piecemeal here and there.

 

As a starter example, I've always played the TSent a lot, with various weapons and different gear items, but I've settled on this build as being perfect for the way I play:

 

http://kalence.drupa...!13N52364!4F895

 

The Eagle does a mass of damage, has a decent amount of ammo, and its fairly heavy recoil is completely tamed by the Turian passives. The Hurricane makes a great backup sidearm obviously, and I use the Recoil System on it because even the Turian passives aren't enough to tame it. I'd rather have fewer shots but be able to put them on target.

 

Tech Armor is specced for 35% DR and damage at rank 4, which is enough to deal with any Husk that gets too close. Warp is pretty standard, and Overload is for managing groups and detonating FEs. I don't take headshots in passives because (1) I suck at them and (2) I want the power bonus for Chain Overload in particular. The 4 ranks in Fitness means no need for a Cyclonic, instead I can use an AM III to overcome his weakest aspect as a character, which is slow run speed. It doesn't make him into a Drell but this way I can outrun the Batarian - so the Banshee will grab him instead

 

Of course I'm not claiming this is the most flexible build, or the highest DPS, or anything, except that it allows me to play well, score well (by my pathetically low standards, anyway), and carry a wave without struggling, when that's necessary.

 

So, what have the rest of you got?

 

BTW, we can probably take as read the "Why does anyone even care it's a three year old game?" and "You're a scrub if you use anything that isn't the Javelin GI" comments, and the other similar ones too

[acicm2]

I use this setup cause I don't care about  what BSN said.

 

http://kalence.drupa...34O53364!E3DEB9

 

 

*this gif is for anyone who complains about this build*

[NuclearTech76]

Batarian Soldier

http://kalence.drupa...34O52314!E30EC9

 

The reason I go this route is built around ballistic blade spam moreso than just inferno nades. Ballistic Blades allow you to be in the thick of the fight so much because of the two stagger events that they provide with the Arc Pistol on there as well generally I can level a whole spawn with Blades and Arc Pistol fire even if I choose not to throw a nade in. AP IV gives you some double hits versus some targets as well, power mod makes everything more effective. I used to run him with cyclonic but I find with power amp most things are dying so quickly it doesn't matter. The more you can spam blades the less time the enemy has firing and the more time they are staggering, exploding, burning, and dying.  Charged Arc Shot and Blade Launch can be synched and doesn't give a **** about a few phantoms much less one's DR BS. 

[JRandall0308]

When I can't decide what to play on Platinum, and I'm not playing the Turian Sentinel, then I use the good old Human Sentinel.

 

Human Sentinel

6/6/6/5/3

Collector SMG and Acolyte

Warp Rounds

SMG Rail Amp III

Cyclonic III

Geth Scanner

 

All 6 ranks in Tech Armor gives 50% DR (effectively less due to DR funkiness). You can pop the Tech Armor to get out of Husk mobs or to stagger Phantoms.

 

6 ranks in Warp is standard. Detonate, Expose, Pierce. New players: always take Detonate, Expose, Pierce in Warp unless you have a really good reason not to.

 

6 ranks in Throw with Radius, Detonate, Force & Damage. I like 4b Radius because you can get 2-for-1 kills on Husks or other weak enemies. 6a Force & Damage, plus all his other bonuses in Passives, gives 1470N force which is enough to stagger Phantoms and even some bigger enemies.

 

Throw is your bread and butter power. Its fast recharge (< 1.5 second even with the Tech Armor penalty) means you can spam Throw to detonate your teammates' powers. Throw is also your answer to the question of what to do when someone is using Disruptor Rounds: just Throw for a Tech Burst, then Throw again to detonate your underlying Warp (or whatever other priming power is on the target).

 

5 ranks in Alliance Training... I took Damage & Capacity and Power Damage because even though Power Damage doesn't do much, I suck at Headshots. But you could take Weapon Damage and Headshots and that would be OK too.

 

3 ranks in Fitness, plus a Cyclonic III, gets you to 1125 Shields. (You can eke out 925 Shields with a Cyclonic II.) Note that because of Tech Armor's DR, your effective Shields are higher.

 

Collector SMG unchains me from the ammo boxes, which are often stingy on Platinum maps. SMG H-VB is absolutely mandatory if you're not using AP ammo, because even though the CSMG has some native bonuses against armor, you must have AP on Platinum.

 

Acolyte is for use against Phantoms, and occasionally Primes or Atlases with their ridiculous Shields. Sometimes I don't use the Acolyte, but it weighs so little that I like to carry it as a security blanket.

 

I prefer Warp Rounds because I hope to prime lots of targets with Warp, or have some other biotic in the party using Warp or Reave (or Singularity or...). However in a pinch you could use Armor Piercing Rounds, in which case you want to switch the CSMG to use High Caliber Barrel instead of H-V Barrel.

 

When I used to to U/U/P a lot to grind for credits, this Human Sentinel is the guy I would load up before searching for a game. Because no matter what group I landed in, Human Sentinel is useful.

[NuclearTech76]

Double Explosion Drell Adept

http://kalence.drupa...!13O53364!E.0EG

 

Venom gives you the ability to prime multiple FEs, Reave gives you the ability to prime multiple BEs. Cluster Grenades give you three detonators per throw. Concurrent explosions of the same type are rare due to the way things deprime within an explosion radius but concurrent explosions of different types happen frequently. I'll have a BE and FE going off often at the same time. If you get a good spawn though, Reave, Venom double tap, and two CGs and everything is dead instantly. Venom allows the Drell Adept to be played even more aggressively as well. I use the ULM upgrade on the shotgun because I not only want to use Reave more but I want to be forced to the ammo boxes more, I want to throw a lot of nades so I'm going to be hitting those boxes a lot throughout a match.  

[ClydeInTheShell]

Geth Engineer w/ Saber

 

He's a headshot machine, and Overload takes care of shields & barriers so the accelerated Saber shots can chew up the armor. There are other weapons that are probably better on the GE but I enjoy this setup a lot.

[J. Peterman]

Tech bursting HSent

 

Shoot > Warp (TB + reload cancel) > Shoot > Throw (TB + reload cancel) > Throw (BE + reload cancel)

 

Rinse, repeat & win.

[Salarian Master Race]

Salarian Infiltrator PC Build

 

With Cloak > Energy Drain, a Disruptor Ammo N7 Valiant is still powerful enough to oneshot kill Shielded mooks.  Plus you get a nice, quick rate of fire, reload cycle, stay in positive Cooldown for laggy hosts with the Cloak double Cooldown bug, can have a Scorpion sidearm for thematic purposes, and best of all, you ****** off all the Black Widow users, because Black Widow is a crutch.  And Disruptor Ammo makes you killsteal proof.  THANKS FOR THE TECH BURST, SUCKA.

 

Salarian Infiltrator Xbox Build

 

This guy murders everything around him.  He's like an Engineer who can cloak and doesn't have to aim.  I take the Ultra Light Materials instead of the extra ammo capacity because otherwise I forget to use TCPs and my damage goes down as a result.

[Darth Volus]

Salarian Infiltrator PC Build

 

With Cloak > Energy Drain, a Disruptor Ammo N7 Valiant is still powerful enough to oneshot kill Shielded mooks.  Plus you get a nice, quick rate of fire, reload cycle, stay in positive Cooldown for laggy hosts with the Cloak double Cooldown bug, can have a Scoprion sidearm for thematic purposes, and best of all, you ****** off all the Black Widow users, because Black Widow is a crutch.

 

Salarian Infiltrator Xbox Build

 

This guy murders everything around him.  He's like an Engineer who can cloak and doesn't have to aim.  I take the Ultra Light Materials instead of the extra ammo capacity because otherwise I forget to use TCPs and my damage goes down as a result.

 

Valiant, Y no Black Widow? It's betta 

[Salarian Master Race]

Valiant, Y no Black Widow? It's betta 

 

Black Widow is heavier, slower rate of fire.  As long as you are landing Headshots the Valiant is just as good, if not better.  The reason Black Widow is a crutch is because with the same setup you can oneshot kill with a bodyshot.  The Valiant isn't that lenient.

 

Style, babby.  Also I edited the post you quoted, there's more info on it now

[Darth Volus]

Black Widow is heavier, slower rate of fire.  As long as you are landing Headshots the Valiant is just as good, if not better.  The reason Black Widow is a crutch is because with the same setup you can oneshot kill with a bodyshot.  The Valiant isn't that lenient.

 

Style, babby

 

succesfull 

[Salarian Master Race]

succesfull 

 

I edited the post you quoted that time too btw

[Darth Volus]

Oh noes, you beat me with that trap tech burst card. Well played, well played 

[NuclearTech76]

Venom Salarian Engineer

http://kalence.drupa...!13N53364!E8955

 

ED synthetics and shielded, Incinerate armor, set up decoy for an added aggro dump when needed. Venom everything. Ravagers are particularly hilarious, venom to prime them set a decoy right in front of them and watch the fireworks. They will vomit swarmers on the decoy which will immediately explode and produce a FE. Incinerate is safer but hell I never can resist putting the Salarian pinata out for the Ravagers.

[TheTechnoTurian]

Turian Sentinel 

 

This turian is utterly and completely perfect 

 

If we want to go hard and fast I just sit back and let the turian do all the work

If we want to take it easy and go slow and gentle we can do that too with this build

 

He is fantastic in every situation, no matter who else is with us 

 

He never lets me down with a sub-par performance

 

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Asari Adept

 

sometimes I like to experiment with kits that aren't turians

[Darth Volus]

^ And he's still too fat to dodge. Even a Guardian can sometimes dodge if you light him on fire 

 

Dat reach doe. 

 

Also, relevant:  

 

[Salarian Master Race]

Turian Sentinel 

 

This turian is utterly and completely perfect 

 

If we want to go hard and fast I just sit back and let the turian do all the work

If we want to take it easy and go slow and gentle we can do that too with this build

 

He is fantastic in every situation, no matter who else is with us 

 

He never lets me down with a sub-par performance

 

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Asari Adept

 

sometimes I like to experiment with kits that aren't turians

 

I will try Saber on TSent later, that actually sounds really good

 

Otherwise build is identical to what I use

[Darth Volus]

I will try Saber on TSent later, that actually sounds really good

 

It's is really good. Saber is good on all Overload kits.  

 

P.S. But I'm too much of a scrub to to Saber consistently. 

[Miniditka77]

This Batarian Soldier build is probably my overall most perfect build.  It really has no weaknesses.  And just replace the Disruptors with Incendiary IV if you're feeling like being lazy/cheezy.

 

I think I have more fun with this build, which is my second "perfect" build:  Asari Justicar DOT build.

 

EDIT:  Also, I agree that the TSent is one of the most perfect classes.  He is fun to play with pretty much any weapon, especially rapid-fire weapons.  I think my favorite is the Lancer, but I love the Arc Pistol, Eagle, Valkyrie, Saber, Hurricane, and even the Incisor on him.

[Darth Volus]

This Batarian Soldier build is probably my overall most perfect build.  It really has no weaknesses.  And just replace the Disruptors with Incendiary IV if you're feeling like being lazy/cheezy.

 

I think I have more fun with this build, which is my second "perfect" build:  Asari Justicar DOT build

 

Y U no Raider for 100% roleplay Brotarian?  Repent! (the Claymoar is of course a valable weapon) 

[Salarian Master Race]

Y U no Raider for 100% roleplay Brotarian?  Repent! (the Claymoar is of course a valable weapon) 

 

I heartily endorse this product and/or service

[Miniditka77]

Y U no Raider for 100% roleplay Brotarian?  Repent! (the Claymoar is of course a valable weapon) 

 

I don't really like the Raider on him (HERESY!).  I really only like the Raider on the TSol, Shadow, Valkyrie, and Cabal.  I think the Claymore and Wraith synergize better with Ballistic Blades.  They let you do a ton of damage at longer ranges where the blades aren't effective, and the blades can be used as a stagger and reload hider when enemies get too close, so you don't have to suffer the downside of the slow ROF.

 

EDIT:  Also, roleplay means nothing to me.  Effectiveness and fun are the only things I care about.  The only exception is that I don't like using the Acolyte on Krogan, because it just looks stupid.

[NuclearTech76]

This Batarian Soldier build is probably my overall most perfect build.  It really has no weaknesses.  And just replace the Disruptors with Incendiary IV if you're feeling like being lazy/cheezy.

 

I think I have more fun with this build, which is my second "perfect" build:  Asari Justicar DOT build.

 

EDIT:  Also, I agree that the TSent is one of the most perfect classes.  He is fun to play with pretty much any weapon, especially rapid-fire weapons.  I think my favorite is the Lancer, but I love the Arc Pistol, Eagle, Valkyrie, Saber, Hurricane, and even the Incisor on him.

Same Justicar build usually except I alternate between the Acolyte or Arc Pistol. 

[Miniditka77]

Same Justicar build usually except I alternate between the Acolyte or Arc Pistol. 

 

Sometimes I use the Acolyte/BPP combo on her, especially if I know I'm getting Geth.  Hurricane is obviously better than the BPP, but I never use the BPP on anything else, and as long as I'm going to just use it to spray bosses with Warp Ammo, the difference is pretty negligible.

 

You should try the Paladin though - It's not my favorite gun, but it seems to work great on her.

[HamleticTortoise]

Turian Sentinel 

 

This turian is utterly and completely perfect 

 

If we want to go hard and fast I just sit back and let the turian do all the work

If we want to take it easy and go slow and gentle we can do that too with this build

 

He is fantastic in every situation, no matter who else is with us 

 

He never lets me down with a sub-par performance

 

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Asari Adept

 

sometimes I like to experiment with kits that aren't turians

 

Honest question on the TSent here: that setup is what I have used for the longest time in pugs, and I love it; however, I find that the Saber lowers the cooldowns just enough that it becomes difficult to coordinate power usage and combos with caster classes; since for me the TSent is the ultimate pug machine, a dependable friend who is capable of enhancing the damage output of pretty much anyone, I found this detail detracting from the message of cooperation that I am trying to spread. Nowadays I equip the lancer when heading in the great unknown; which other guns would you suggest putting on him?

 

Also, I would like to point out the trend of Turian kits doing really well with weapons of human design: besides the ones already mentioned, Eagle on the TSent, Hurricane and Typhoon on the TSol; who said that it was the Normandy that was the pinnacle of Human - Turian cooperation?