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[Darth Volus]

^ Arc Pistol. 

[TheTechnoTurian]

Honest question on the TSent here: that setup is what I have used for the longest time in pugs, and I love it; however, I find that the Saber lowers the cooldowns just enough that it becomes difficult to coordinate power usage and combos with caster classes; since for me the TSent is the ultimate pug machine, a dependable friend who is capable of enhancing the damage output of pretty much anyone, I found this detail detracting from the message of cooperation that I am trying to spread. Nowadays I equip the lancer when heading in the great unknown; which other guns would you suggest putting on him?
 
Also, I would like to point out the trend of Turian kits doing really well with weapons of human design: besides the ones already mentioned, Eagle on the TSent, Hurricane and Typhoon on the TSol; who said that it was the Normandy that was the pinnacle of Human - Turian cooperation?

Arc Pistol is probably the best choice to balance power use and weapon damage though I don't pug with that thing as it gets a bit dull. Same for wraith and talon, though they are all good choices.

If I am not using Saber and want to focus on power use I use Paladin, Carnifex, Eagle, CSMG, Valiant, Suppressor and I have sometimes used Lancer.

[Quarian Master Race]

QFI with bullets, bombs and Master Race bigotry
probably this: http://kalence.drupa...!!34O55334!E0EA
or If I'm hosting sometimes this: http://kalence.drupa...5!34O57364!E0EA

kills alein zombies/robots with headchots and sabosplosions and doesn't afraid of anything. 

then again there's this dashing fellow: http://kalence.drupa...!13K51343!F03AC

this is really goddamn difficult

[MaxCrushmore]

When I feel like obliterating the game:

 

http://kalence.drupa...!23H54384!5BFAC

 

Style of play: run around and shoot everything in the face

 

 

The most intense, fly by the seat of your pants action:

 

http://kalence.drupa...!13N54384!DFE.G

 

Style of play: Rush full spawn at point blank range, trigger BE and shoot, repeat until all is dead. You can re-trigger a BE every 2.5 seconds, keeping everything staggered long enough to shoot. Make liberal use of Asari dodge to get close and slide back as needed

 

 

 

Yes, they both use a Hurricane

[DaemionMoadrin]

I don't have -one- perfect kit/setup because it depends on my mood, the consumables I have left and the challenges I want to do. I never play the same kit for more than 3 games in a row anyway.

 

My favourites are the Human Adept, the Asari Adept, the Asari Justicar, the Awakened Collector Adept, the Krogan Soldier, the Turian Soldier, the Destroyer, the Juggernaut, the Human Engineer, the Female Quarian Engineer, the Demolisher, the Paladin, the Valkyrie, the Salarian Infiltrator, the Female Quarian Infiltrator, the Geth Infiltrator, the Shadow, the Turian Ghost Infiltrator, the Huntress, the Alliance Infiltration Unit and the Krogan Vanguard.

 

I play most other kits, too... but not as often as those few. I switch the weapons on most kits, so the above are just one version each.

[TheShadyEngineer]

Geth Engineer w/ Saber

 

He's a headshot machine, and Overload takes care of shields & barriers so the accelerated Saber shots can chew up the armor. There are other weapons that are probably better on the GE but I enjoy this setup a lot.

Great setup. +1

 

Another one I really like is the Pally HME.

 

Overload and incinerate follow the standard build. With a power amp IV, overload will OHK all mook shields and barriers on gold, pyros and phantoms included, and would make for an easy follow up headshot from the Paladin which will dispose of them.

 

The Paladin is also light enough to allow consistently chain incinerate/OL explosions. A very welcome damage boost against bosses or to use as collateral against large groups of mooks. Shoot an incinerate at a target that can't dodge or doesn't do so very often (aboms, goons, pyros/hunters, cannibals, boss units), wait for them to get near a cluster of enemies and detonate with overload. Beautiful. Especially effective against phantom/dragoon rush squads and against geth in general as they have a tendency to bunch up.

 

A few words on the Paladin  . Pocket rocket. Great bang for the buck in terms of damage:weight. Very accurate. Takes some getting used to, sure, but after some practice you'll be keyhole-ing headshots like it's nothing. Also a very good Arc pistol alternative for those of us (myself included) with itchy trigger fingers. That 100 RPM RoF is just too sweet. The gun's only drawback, IMO, is the low reserve ammo. With 5 in the magazine, just 33 in reserve, a 100 RPM RoF and an itchy trigger finger, it's very common to run out of ammo. I, personally, don't think I've ever gotten through a pug game (playing with friends is another story as there aren't a lot of enemies around to dump rounds on) with this setup without using at least one thermal clip pack. Just something to keep in mind.

 

Lastly, yeah, no drone. I feel it messes with my rhythms of OL/incinerate and it also feels like the thing gets shot down as soon as it's deployed or better yet, completely ignored. Just not a fan, I guess.

[Erik the Quarian 3.0]

This 

 

Probably not an optimal build or whatever but I think it's the best kit for me in any given situation, she has a little something for every faction. 

[ark]

justicar I win style. superb for soloing. Bubble a bottleneck, win for ever.

 

tsent Pug machine supreme

[Quarian Master Race]

This 

 

Probably not an optimal build or whatever but I think it's the best kit for me in any given situation, she has a little something for every faction. 

Choice of passives 4a and a power amp together is curious methodology, but I'm not going to argue with a classy, sophisticated quarian with a glorious quarian weapon.

[NuclearTech76]

Honest question on the TSent here: that setup is what I have used for the longest time in pugs, and I love it; however, I find that the Saber lowers the cooldowns just enough that it becomes difficult to coordinate power usage and combos with caster classes; since for me the TSent is the ultimate pug machine, a dependable friend who is capable of enhancing the damage output of pretty much anyone, I found this detail detracting from the message of cooperation that I am trying to spread. Nowadays I equip the lancer when heading in the great unknown; which other guns would you suggest putting on him?

 

Also, I would like to point out the trend of Turian kits doing really well with weapons of human design: besides the ones already mentioned, Eagle on the TSent, Hurricane and Typhoon on the TSol; who said that it was the Normandy that was the pinnacle of Human - Turian cooperation?

Hurduricane with AP is hard to beat as is the Harrier if you want to go with just OP ownage in the weapons slots, the usual suspects are also good as well, Talon, Wraith, Arc Pistol, also the Graal, Kishock, PPR, Typhoon, etc, etc. Basically he's a Turian so you'd be hard pressed to find a weapon he doesn't preform well with as long as you hit the head consistently, he can detonate ammo combo explosions but his weapon passives are so damn good that you're probably better off with AP rounds and stripping with OL then shooting or Warping to debuff larger target then filling then with bullets, also double hits plus Turian passives. 

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

I don't have -one- perfect kit/setup because it depends on my mood, the consumables I have left and the challenges I want to do. I never play the same kit for more than 3 games in a row anyway.

 

Understand perfectly, and I won't always play the TSent with the build that I presented in the OP, because challenges and variety. I'm suggesting thjat people share the ones they think have been tweaked and tuned to perfection, and explain what gameplay they are talking about. It's obviously possible to have several kits that one thinks are at that stage, but asking everyone to share all their kits might be burdensome, at least to some, so I suggested simply offering one - but there's no limit

 

By way of further example I'll offer another one, my Human Female Engineer (my HME is specced differently for the sake of variety):

 

http://kalence.drupa...!34N54334!E98B3

 

I put 3 ranks into fitness because if she does take a warp ball or rocket, she can survive by diving into cover, unlike with zero fitness - and I want the Power Amp on her. Enemies have the Drone cast on them, then get shot with Disruptor, then get Incinerate for armor or repeated Overload. The Scorpion is for Phantoms and the like, obviously. The Tempest is a great ammo applicator and keeps the cooldowns short, and with the Recoil System, it can reliably do headshots. Because she's very squishy she always dodges in and out of soft cover in between casts. The maximal Chain Overload means that while I'm stripping shields off a Prime or Atlas, the smaller stuff around it all dies as a bonus, and the constant TBs keep small stuff staggered. The detonating Drone will take out Cannibals and Assault Troopers who shoot it, and independently detonates TBs on stuff I've shot. It also makes Guardians turn round, so I can shoot them in the back, which is quicker than shooting through their shields, even though I can do that with the HVB. With this kit I can carry if necessary, and regularly topscore against Geth or Cerb.

[DaemionMoadrin]

With this kit I can carry if necessary, and regularly topscore against Geth or Cerb.

 

Who are you and what have you done with the real Marksmad?

[Quarian Master Race]

Who are you and what have you done with the real Marksmad?

he's not saying that he carries to victory. Topscore could just mean that he has the highest score when everyone bleeds out on w1.

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Who are you and what have you done with the real Marksmad?

 

I suppose I should have said explicitly "...in pugs."  

 

he's not saying that he carries to victory. Topscore could just mean that he has the highest score when everyone bleeds out on w1.

 

Exactly

[NuclearTech76]

http://kalence.drupa...!24N52343!FA5A5

 

That's what I roll with on the Marksman. You better be able to headshot though. 

[Bud Halen]

When I feel like obliterating the game:

 

http://kalence.drupa...!23H54384!5BFAC

 

Style of play: run around and shoot everything in the face

 

 

The most intense, fly by the seat of your pants action:

 

http://kalence.drupa...!13N54384!DFE.G

 

Style of play: Rush full spawn at point blank range, trigger BE and shoot, repeat until all is dead. You can re-trigger a BE every 2.5 seconds, keeping everything staggered long enough to shoot. Make liberal use of Asari dodge to get close and slide back as needed

 

 

 

Yes, they both use a Hurricane

 

Barrage Gear is enough to tame the GI Hurricane, then?

 

And I take it you don't see much need for Hurricane stability when you're running around with that AVS AF stank?

[q5tyhj]

justicar I win style. superb for soloing. Bubble a bottleneck, win for ever.

Venom Justicar, hells yeah

[MaxCrushmore]

Barrage Gear is enough to tame the GI Hurricane, then?

 

And I take it you don't see much need for Hurricane stability when you're running around with that AVS AF stank?

 

Yes to both. Barrage gear seems to provide the perfect amount of stability to add effective range to the GI/Hurricane combo.

 

And the AVS is nose to nose with everything, so stability is not needed (in fact, it may be better without as on console the auto target will take you to centre mass and the recoil will take you to the upper torso / head area)

[Quarian Master Race]

http://kalence.drupa...!24N52343!FA5A5

 

That's what I roll with on the Marksman. You better be able to headshot though. 

liked for quarian and a build that doesn't skip sabotage. When applicable, quarians should be able to hack robots just like they can hack my heart  
and my soup

Speccing area scan and equipping geth scanner tho?

[Bud Halen]

The Tempest is a great ammo applicator and keeps the cooldowns short, and with the Recoil System, it can reliably do headshots.

 

I have never tried this, and that disappoints me greatly.  But this will soon change.  Yes...yes, it will soon change.

I thank you...

[Miniditka77]

Another one I really like is the Pally HME.

 

Try the Human Engineer with the Executioner with Heavy Barrel and Power Amp.  You don't even need headshots - the Overload/Executioner combo will easily OSK any Gold health-based mook with a body shot (yes, even Phantoms) with the right setup.  Actually, Hunters are the biggest challenge to OSK because you need to use a power amp to bump up your Overload damage.  By far my favorite Human Engineer setup.

[Indoctornated]

I'm saving all my builds for a secret topic!

[DaemionMoadrin]

I'm saving all my builds for a secret topic!

 

Make it ultra-secret. Seperate group and sub forum, invite only. Severely enforced rules like "There is no secret group, don't talk about the secret group." Then post your builds in there, invisible to everyone on the outside.

[NuclearTech76]

liked for quarian and a build that doesn't skip sabotage. When applicable, quarians should be able to hack robots just like they can hack my heart  
and my soup

Speccing area scan and equipping geth scanner tho?

Super secret is I forgot to change out with the pistol mod. 

 

If soloing I would probably still put on crutch scanner, and prefer the extra damage although generally I never respec just for soloing. 

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

Speccing area scan and equipping geth scanner tho?
 

It's not really necessary to critique the builds in this thread. The point isn't to find optimal builds or solve any build question/issue. It's about what people are finding works perfectly for them  and the way they play the kit. I don't use area scan but I'm guessing it would be something like Nuke using Tac Scan tactically (if you'll excuse the phrase) to enhance his team's awareness of spawns with this setup.