Just have all the races come from the same background: being a slave, recently freed by whatever gets you drawn into the plot.
Screw that. I mean Gaider has screwed it up by making them suddenly accepting of people outside their borderline fanatical roles, and suddenly they're okay with women warriors and flexible in their beliefs (David Gaider, no matter how you spin it, you retconned one f the most unique speeches Sten had in origins), but the qunari are still awesome.
If they bring them back as horned gray giants who will conquer anyone who doesn't believe what they do, they'll be an amazing antagonist with a totally unique culture.
Of course if they blow it and make them just like everyone else and accepting of all, maybe it's best they don't bother. In origins and DA2 they were truly awesome. I sort of hate how Gaider altered them to fit his own politics on a whim. Yes, Krem is a neat character, no I don't think the freaking Arishok or Sten would "get" Krem or accept him.
Let the qunari be ruthless and fanatical and frightening.
That is not what I meant. what I meant was droping the opition to play as a Qunari.
I was thinking merc. I can easily see a member of any race in a mercenary company.
Are dwarf/human/qunari slaves comm on in Tevinter?
Dwarves are not slaves. Tevinter needs the dwarves for their lyrium supply and thus they are not able to be slaves; then again they are also not citizesn.
Just have all the races come from the same background: being a slave, recently freed by whatever gets you drawn into the plot.
Only if each race gets it's own slave type backstory to make them more exciting. origins almost demanded playing every race and background because they all had their own tale, and characters who were in the main game (like the dwarven arms shopkeeper in denerim) that other backgrounds wouldn't recognize.
it was fun.
Inquisition didn't do that, so there's not anything super special to see with a new race.
Dwarves are not slaves. Tevinter needs the dwarves for their lyrium supply and thus they are not able to be slaves; then again they are also not citizesn.
Individual dwarves could be slaves even if dwarves weren't enslaved en masse by the Tevinter Imperium.
The ancient Romans sometimes condemned people to slavery for crimes. A bandit might end up enslaved and sold off to marble quarry somewhere for example. A similar sort of thing could go on in Tevinter, if a dwarf protagonist was a former slave. He or she could be a former criminal, or just the unlucky child of Carta members who the Tevinters enslaved.
That is not what I meant. what I meant was droping the opition to play as a Qunari.
The option to play qunari could be the best of the bunch, if they do it right. If they just make them big humans again though, fair enough, i really wasn't happy with our options in dai.
The option to play qunari could be the best of the bunch, if they do it right. If they just make them big humans again though, fair enough, i really wasn't happy with our options in dai.
Seriously, could you imagine how cool it would be to play as a Saarabas separated from their Avaraad and sold into Tevinter slavery as an origin. I'm already salivating.
Individual dwarves could be slaves even if dwarves weren't enslaved en masse by the Tevinter Imperium.
The ancient Romans sometimes condemned people to slavery for crimes. A bandit might end up enslaved and sold off to marble quarry somewhere for example. A similar sort of thing could go on in Tevinter, if a dwarf protagonist was a former slave. He or she could be a former criminal, or just the unlucky child of Carta members who the Tevinters enslaved.
could be possible, but lore as of now states that is not the case with dwarves. Lore can change though.
But the more important thing is that if you are plopping in DA4 for the first time and now next to nothing on Tevinter and you pick say Dwarf. You should be introduced to the normal dwarven society in tevinter so you can see what that is about. You should be shown how dwarves in Tevinter are different and interesting.
Of course we don't know where da4 could be, it could just as easily be in Rivain.
What about other nations? It was stated by the devs themselves that we're going farther north in the next installment. The countries lying to the north of Orlais & Ferelden are Nevarra, Anderfels, Rivain, Tevinter, and the Free Marches, though technically it is not a country.
Nevarra - There's a lot of nobles there and most of them are Penthagasts or other houses related to the Penthagasts. Every origin story could be possible here, from human noble through dalish elf to tal-vasoth qunari.
Anderfels - This would make a great place for the human commoner origin, as most of the people here are farmers, soldiers and Grey Wardens, so mostly common folk. The King is weak, nobility is probably small and Wardens Hold most of the political power.
Rivain - Here's the only qunari settlement on mainland Thedas, so a qunari origin could start here. Actually, any origin could center around the growing qunari influence in the land, which forces the main character away from his/her home (we probably never going to play as a faithful qunari).
Tevinter - As discussed above, human and dwarf origins could work well, but we don't know enough about elves and qunari in Tevinter and how their origin story would work here.
Free Marches - Again, a largely neutal land, where all origins would work, regardless of race and class. (Personally, I'd love to see the other Free Marches cities visited in one game - urban areas can be much more interesting, if done properly with no re-used areas).
What about other nations? It was stated by the devs themselves that we're going farther north in the next installment. The countries lying to the north of Orlais & Ferelden are Nevarra, Anderfels, Rivain, Tevinter, and the Free Marches, though technically it is not a country.
Nevarra - There's a lot of nobles there and most of them are Penthagasts or other houses related to the Penthagasts. Every origin story could be possible here, from human noble through dalish elf to tal-vasoth qunari.
Anderfels - This would make a great place for the human commoner origin, as most of the people here are farmers, soldiers and Grey Wardens, so mostly common folk. The King is weak, nobility is probably small and Wardens Hold most of the political power.
Rivain - Here's the only qunari settlement on mainland Thedas, so a qunari origin could start here. Actually, any origin could center around the growing qunari influence in the land, which forces the main character away from his/her home (we probably never going to play as a faithful qunari).
Tevinter - As discussed above, human and dwarf origins could work well, but we don't know enough about elves and qunari in Tevinter and how their origin story would work here.
Free Marches - Again, a largely neutal land, where all origins would work, regardless of race and class. (Personally, I'd love to see the other Free Marches cities visited in one game - urban areas can be much more interesting, if done properly with no re-used areas).
Possible, maybe for another thread, but I have a lot of ideas regarding Rivain if anyone is interested in reading them.
I don't know if we will return to the free-marches, I hope so but I adore the Italian City states of the medieval and renissance era, thus like the free marches. You also forgot about Antivia, which I view as a greater posibility then the free marches
Thats how I wish they done it...
1-Qunari- Background Mage on the run from the Qun (could still disguise as a merc but will be recognized by IB add tension and all and his personal quest wouldve been about siding with Qunari coming for the Quizzie or against them wich is better then what we have now )
2- city elf instead of Dalish (merchant or servant)
3- Human Noble (again) but that whole background was so boring even when you are a Mage , you bascily lived all sheltered with no opinion or watever . I rather have a commoner who wanted to get away or was like Alistair shoved in the chantry so you are a lay sister or a priest .
4- Dwarf carta . All I remember from the carta is how much they look like they need a good washing 
I wouldve given the role of merc to a dwarf castless like Sigrun on the Surface instead of a carta dwarf .
Thats how I wish they done it...
3- Human Noble (again) but that whole background was so boring even when you are a Mage , you bascily lived all sheltered with no opinion or watever . I rather have a commoner who wanted to get away or was like Alistair shoved in the chantry so you are a lay sister or a priest .
Clearly the characters of game of thrones, like Cersie, Margaery, Tywin, Tyrion, Jamie, Arianne, Oberyne are all boring characters. After all they are noble thus boring!
Clearly the characters of game of thrones, like Cersie, Margaery, Tywin, Tyrion, Jamie, Arianne, Oberyne are all boring characters. After all they are noble thus boring!
Dont watch Game of throne so no idea who are those
And Noble isn't necessarly boring . the noble Origin in DAO was awesome . But often , they don't use issues that could come with being a Noble .
I mean in the palace quest as a Qunari everyone was whining about me being an ox and human have it better . That whole palace quest couldve been greater and important like the quest back in DAO with Loghain and all the Noble . You have to save celene and all and all you could do is run from room to room and race against time gathering statue to open doors . Wouldve been nice if its different for each specie . Noble could instead talk more to Noble , investigate instead of running around .
So really , no background is boring . Its all up to BW and how much background they are willing to give you and what quest they gonna tie to who you are . Many of your personal quest on the war Table felt so...ugh...lack of imagination .
I want to start out as a poor slave in Tevinter - whatever the lowest possible rung is, that's where I want to start.
I would still play Elf, Qunari or Dwarf. I may be interested in a human protagonist only if the background is non andrastian (chasind, avaar) or elf blooded. Yeah, an elf blooded commoner could be ok for a fourth run.
I like the idea of a human commoner background for the next human PC. We've really not gotten a chance to experience that viewpoint. I just hope that we don't shoehorned into it like we did with Hawke. As long as it's an option, I think it's a great idea (I just don't want to lose other races).
I know everyone thinks we are going to Tevinter next, but I have a sneaking suspicision that Tevinter is further down the road. There's civil war brewing in both the Anderfels (Grey Warden Civil War) and Nevarra (the potential war over succession and the political battle between the Pentaghasts and Van Markhams). Both of those situations seem more urgent than Tevinter, which can be put of a bit without affecting other timelines. Plus, we still haven't been to almost all of the Free Marches nor anywhere in Antiva or Rivain yet.
Dwarves have nobles too.
According to the wiki, elves are allowed to study magic, but I don't think they can be easily admitted into the Circles as studying in a Circle is considered a great privilege. They best chance is probably if they are taken as apprentice by their magister master (just like it happened to Fenris' sister), but even then, they'll never be considered true citizens.
My standing theory is that DA4 will be set in Antiva and Rivain. Now, Antiva is controlled in all but name by a group of merchant princes as I recall. What if one of those families were elves? Then we'd have the nobility option for those who want it and humans can be commoners.
A noble dwarf from Kal Sharok might work in the next game.
I'm going to quote Varric: if you're seeing them above ground they're not nobles anymore. It's notable that in DAO the DN is exiled as a criminal.
Any character with a noble origin is bound to lose their noble status early in the game (getting exiled and/or recurited by the Wardens, for example) to have them start with equal opportunities with non-noble characters. When I said dwarves have nobles too, I was refering to a noble origin, not a noble status during the game.
Also, do high-ranking members of the Merchants' Guild count as semi-nobles, as they're wealthy and have a lot of influence, and most of them descend from noble houses too?
I know everyone thinks we are going to Tevinter next, but I have a sneaking suspicision that Tevinter is further down the road. There's civil war brewing in both the Anderfels (Grey Warden Civil War) and Nevarra (the potential war over succession and the political battle between the Pentaghasts and Van Markhams). Both of those situations seem more urgent than Tevinter, which can be put of a bit without affecting other timelines. Plus, we still haven't been to almost all of the Free Marches nor anywhere in Antiva or Rivain yet.
No boring Anderfels! Tevinter. Ancient lore. Urban setting. Opulent ruins. Gladiatorial fights. Fog Warriors.
I don't like this suspicion you have, daveliam.
No boring Anderfels! Tevinter. Ancient lore. Urban setting. Opulent ruins. Gladiatorial fights. Fog Warriors.
I don't like this suspicion you have, daveliam.
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If BW don't want to do playable origins then starting out as a Tevinter slave would probably be the easiest way to go. Personal backstories can be shaped by the player throughout the game.
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You watch, it's going to look just like Ferelden, but colder.
Snow. 
I want a tropical climate. 
Edit: If I get a griffon, though...
You watch, it's going to look just like Ferelden, but colder.
Snow.
I want a tropical climate.
Edit: If I get a griffon, though...
Well it is the home of the Night's Watch Grey Wardens
I wanna see Rivain and Antiva before Tevinter
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