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[DuskWanderer]

What did I learn? 

 

That people would be willing to let entire nations be destroyed for the sake of their petty agenda (Celene)

 

Some people are so stupid that they'll give up their lives for a petty cause (Wardens following Clarel)

 

That I can turn someone from good to evil like a yo-yo (Leliana)

 

 

And, perhaps most tellingly.

 

That bad writing can be accepted provided you stick a minority face on it. 

[ask_again_later]

What did I learn? 

 

That people would be willing to let entire nations be destroyed for the sake of their petty agenda (Celene)

 

Some people are so stupid that they'll give up their lives for a petty cause (Wardens following Clarel)

 

That I can turn someone from good to evil like a yo-yo (Leliana)

 

 

And, perhaps most tellingly.

 

That bad writing can be accepted provided you stick a minority face on it. 

How is stopping the BLIGHTS a petty cause?

[Uccio]

That wait and see gamer reviews is a good policy when buying games.

[Aren]

How is stopping the BLIGHTS a petty cause?

Because AD have a point in what they are doing,they start a blight to remind people of the Maker, if you kill them in their sleep you lose the lesson of the day.

 

That wait and see gamer reviews is a good policy when buying games.

You don't trust polished reviews? Or goty?

[ask_again_later]

Because AD have a point in what they are doing,they start a blight to remind people of the Maker, if you kill them in their sleep you lose the lesson of the day.

 

You don't trust polished reviews? Or goty?

And if all of the Grey Wardens are dead, we're screwed.

[Daerog]

Just have the Inquisitor send the Archdemon into the Fade, then a bunch of soldiers and/or mages to kill it since there are no darkspawn in the Fade for it to jump to.

 

No soul clashing, no soul jumping.

 

Chantry and the Circle/College may have a fit and children may have nightmares about it for decades, but meh.

 

Edit: I'm probably overestimating the power of the Inquisitor...

[Aren]

Just have the Inquisitor send the Archdemon into the Fade, then a bunch of soldiers and/or mages to kill it since there are no darkspawn in the Fade for it to jump to.

 

No soul clashing, no soul jumping.

 

Chantry and the Circle/College may have a fit and children may have nightmares about it for decades, but meh.

 

Edit: I'm probably overestimating the power of the Inquisitor...

too bad that tainted creature cannot enter the fade,only case is the first in DAA,but he was forced by some magic of the mother,and he was there in dream.

Taint and fade don't go very well,i wonder if it is possible to separate the AD from the darkspawn horde somehow....

[KocicaK]

And what about that world destruction will wait for you to collect some herbs or million shards?(hope it´s not here. lazy to read it all)

[King Killoth]

I learned it is better to be both feared and respected.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

That wars, that have gone for ages, can easily be solved by enough "power points" and just telling everyone involved you're in charge now.

[KotorEffect3]

Give the account back to your brother.

[BansheeOwnage]

too bad that tainted creature cannot enter the fade,only case is the first in DAA,but he was forced by some magic of the mother,and he was there in dream.

Taint and fade don't go very well,i wonder if it is possible to separate the AD from the darkspawn horde somehow....

Sleeping Archdemons aren't tainted yet.

[KotorEffect3]

Why? This is a discussion forum mate not a fanboy one

 

People are allowed to complain and not like the game deal with it

And I'm actually a big fan of the DA Series (apart from DA:I obviously)

 

Quite funny that you consider the TW fanbase insufferable when the DA fanbase is much worse

Some fanboys here (some not all thankfully) jump at you and get defensive if you don't like DA:I and prefer TW3

When TW fans invade every damn DA video on youtube or invade every DA discussion in any forum just to trash DA it tends to start pissing off DA fans.

[Aren]

If only they would listen to fans...

They listen but they also overcompensate.......

[Aren]

Sleeping Archdemons aren't tainted yet.

his idea was to try to eliminate an AD by banish the dragon into the fade to avoid the US,sleeping AD doesn't exist because they are Old god when they sleep.

But the taint cannot  enter into the fade Physically or maybe i'm wrong since you can bring with you Blackwall and others GW to the Nightmare,mm open a breach into the AD but then i believe that he can easly return with his power,afterall Urthemiel is capable to enter the fade in an easy way in DAI,he and Mythal.

[Domiel Angelus]

Dragon Age has taught me several things about Bioware as a company, as well as fantasy games in general because other games have followed suite based on the previous two titles. 

 

• Even well written characters can be shoved into being narrative devices; I bring this up first because I played all sides of the Anders love story and his destruction of the Chantry still feels too forced and was only meant to be a narrative device to have at least one conflict open for a sequel. After seeing not only Hawke but the Warden do things with and without force his only recourse was the destruction of hundreds of lives to work out an agenda? Anders should have been tempered by Justice, not warped into Vengeance after such examples were laid before him. A second note there is Orsino and the use of Blood Magic, based on everything you learn of Orsino that would never ever have come to pass even with Templars knocking at his door. He also only ends up really harming his followers and the 'hero' that chose to defend him. Meredith was sort of a crap-shoot because she was already wrapped so tightly that any thing could make her snap and the Red Lyrium didn't help. 
• Don't trust any character that seems to be more charismatic than your hero: Everyone has an agenda and you're either the puppet or the puppeteer. If they seem to be anywhere near as charismatic as your player character is meant to be then wear duplex plate around them because they're going to try sticking a knife in you or have a Crow do it for them. 
• Even when someone is declared dead, its possibly a fake out: Both Leliana and Anders are proof of this, they both have very well known deaths within the series and both were rescinded either by player veto or writer fiat. This leaves far too many open doors and its why we ended up with Corypheus as our 'end game'. Here's the biggest secret in the Dragon Age Universe: Every person with a name can be a Corypheus, even though Mother and the Architect should be dead we'll probably see them again as well; even if a castle crashes down to land on the corpse don't discount them. I wouldn't be surprised if we meet the Ghost of Cailan because they run out of ideas sooner than expected. 
• Its better to deal in shades of grey than it is to deal in black and white: Writers in general flop when they try to deal in characters that are 'Good' and 'Evil'. The biggest problem is that very few people are purely good or purely evil, we won't go into historical debate here because there's enough name calling on the forum as it is. The two heroes that worked so far in DA (Hawke and the Warden) worked because they weren't painted good or evil. The Inquisitor falls flat on his/her respective face because the only standpoint they're allowed to take is given to them, they aren't allowed to pass the line in the sand and say "Yes, I have to murder you because I'd rather have blood on my hands and be the villain to all that don't know the true tale" 
• Never trust play-test/demo footage: This is the second time that they showed off stuff that looked far better than we got in the case of Bioware. 
• If given the chance, betray before you can be betrayed. (Games only, not thinking real world here at all) I would have put Anora's head on a pike to make her an example instead of dealing with that dungeon bs that you're forced through, and shoved Bianca up Bartrand's rear end before he can leave you in the Deep Roads. 

Note: This is a short list. I have other things that I keep to myself because I'd rather keep it at least somewhat constructive. 

[BansheeOwnage]

his idea was to try to eliminate an AD by banish the dragon into the fade to avoid the US,sleeping AD doesn't exist because they are Old god when they sleep.

But the taint cannot  enter into the fade Physically or maybe i'm wrong since you can bring with you Blackwall and others GW to the Nightmare,mm open a breach into the AD but then i believe that he can easly return with his power,afterall Urthemiel is capable to enter the fade in an easy way in DAI,he and Mythal.

My bad. A sleeping Old God then. Banishing it into the fade doesn't seem like a terrible option actually. The darkspawn could never get to them. But then we'd never find out what sort of climactic thing happens after we've defeated every blight, if anything.

[ask_again_later]

If you actually take Youtube comments seriously then of course you will get pissed...

 

"Invade" lol

People are just giving feedback, TW3 is superior to DA:I in many ways (even if you enjoy the classic Bioware formula more)
Especially the side quests and open world are very well done so why shouldn't Bioware take note?
They already did it with DA:I and "looked closely at Skyrim" (their words not mine)

Some DA fans here just get defensive and bitter as hell if one mentions TW (I wonder why? Because its more popular?) looking at your profile it seems you are one of them

 

I actually like both series the same (well TW more know because DA:I was terrible in most aspects)

No no no no nooooooo. No. I know nothing about that series, but I do know that you can't say that one game should be more like the other when they each have unique plots. I don't WANT to play TW3. If I wanted to, then I would by it. I want to play a DA game. I agree that it IS extremely annoying listening to people constantly saying this game should be more like TW3. Is this my favorite DA game? No way, but I don't think it deserves to be bashed because it doesn't live up to the impossible hype. You have to realize that not only is it annoying to DA fans to constantly read that the game should be more like TW3, but for the people who put all that time and effort into the game, saying that it was a complete fail and that it needs to be more like some other game is a slap in the face.DA:I was my least favorite DA game, but by NO means will I say it is "terrible in most aspects".

 

There's a difference between critiquing and criticizing.

[Domiel Angelus]

If you actually take Youtube comments seriously then of course you will get pissed...

 

"Invade" lol

People are just giving feedback, TW3 is superior to DA:I in many ways (even if you enjoy the classic Bioware formula more)
Especially the side quests and open world are very well done so why shouldn't Bioware take note?
They already did it with DA:I and "looked closely at Skyrim" (their words not mine)

Some DA fans here just get defensive and bitter as hell if one mentions TW (I wonder why? Because its more popular?) looking at your profile it seems you are one of them

 

I actually like both series the same (well TW more know because DA:I was terrible in most aspects)

 

Its funny that you come back to say "I'm a fan of DA" when you're only showing up with DA:I on your listing. The funny thing is I've put hundreds of hours into DA:I because I like it, even the flower picking. I put TW3 into my system, played for an hour and then realized that there are collectibles not just every twenty feet but every other foot. It sort of threw me off and I may go back to it later, but it feels like they did the exact same things wrong as DA:I and you're forgiving it because you prefer your fantasy 'dark and gritty' where as I prefer mine more 'sunshine and rainbows' as it were. 

 

Yes, TW3 is prettier and does have more depth, but it seems you have to wade through a lot of crap to get there. I got to the point where I met with 'her father' since I'd rather not spoil a game that just came out not long ago and it felt like the same bureaucratic crap that people whined about in other games, but they seem fine with it. The other thing is The Witcher is primarily pulling from Polish folk lore for its heroes and backgrounds where as Dragon Age is more floaty when it comes to its backgrounds, so if you read the stories you could find where the designer went "This isn't cool, change it" for the sake of making it a game which isn't really possible with DA.

 

Sorry but for now Dragon Age, even with DA:I being a mess, is still king to a lot of people; that's why it feels like you and so many others are doing it specifically to troll and not to have constructive conversation.