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[Legion of 1337]

No. That would mean he's transphobic (which he probably is, since he's denying that trans exists, essentially). I would have to say that being intolerant and denying a person's gender identity as being valid qualifies as bigotry.

The thing is, trans identity is not as easy to look at and say "This person is obviously [insert noun]". A gay person is obviously and undeniably gay, you must deny reality to think otherwise and you're a bigot for hating them for it because they can't do anything about it.

 

A trans identity is entirely dependent on how you define things. If someone is of the opinion the deciding factor of male/female is whether their second sex chromosome is X or Y, which technically does decide your sex, then Krem is a woman no matter what she insists. In that case, "trans" isn't a thing, it's just a person with a mental disorder that causes them to think they're the opposite sex. No that kind of classification doesn't make people "feel good" because they're labelled as having a "disorder" (a physical/mental trait that is far outside the norm), but that's not the point, nor does it matter. Really all that means is you're not using the same word trans people use for themselves. Doesn't change the reality of what that person is: biologically one sex, mentally the other. Doesn't make you a bigot.

 

A person becomes a bigot if they're intolerant of that  person's existence, or of their continuing to act the way they do (ie as the opposite sex).

[Dutch's Ghost]

It taught me that Bioware as fallen off the wagon of being a great RPG developer.

[ask_again_later]

The thing is, trans identity is not as easy to look at and say "This person is obviously [insert noun]". A gay person is obviously and undeniably gay, you must deny reality to think otherwise and you're a bigot for hating them for it because they can't do anything about it.

 

A trans identity is entirely dependent on how you define things. If someone is of the opinion the deciding factor of male/female is whether their second sex chromosome is X or Y, which technically does decide your sex, then Krem is a woman no matter what she insists. In that case, "trans" isn't a thing, it's just a person with a mental disorder that causes them to think they're the opposite sex. No that kind of classification doesn't make people "feel good" because they're labelled as having a "disorder" (a physical/mental trait that is far outside the norm), but that's not the point, nor does it matter. Really all that means is you're not using the same word trans people use for themselves. Doesn't change the reality of what that person is: biologically one sex, mentally the other. Doesn't make you a bigot.

 

A person becomes a bigot if they're intolerant of that  person's existence, or of their continuing to act the way they do (ie as the opposite sex).

It really does though. Gender =/= sex. This person has gone through various threads to go out of their way and say "Krem is actually a woman." If that's not intolerant than I don't know what is.

[Legion of 1337]

It really does though. Gender =/= sex. This person has gone through various threads to go out of their way and say "Krem is actually a woman." If that's not intolerant than I don't know what is.

Well, what is a "woman"? There's no particular reason you can't say a woman is someone with two XX chromosomes - after all, that is the biological determinant of being female. I haven't followed this person - do they want Krem not to exist because they're trans, or want Krem to act like a woman? That would make them a bigot. Whether or not Krem is a woman is arguing over semantics and definitions.

 

"Gender" is a synonym for "sex" in all but sociology, gender studies and feminist theory. The whole reason it was redefined was essentially to attempt to paint masculinity and femininity as social constructs because for some reason there's people who don't want to or cannot believe that each sex, taken as a whole, has innate biological differences in behaviour from the other. It also allows radical feminists to paint masculinity not as an unconscious innate part of being a man but as a social construction that can be broken down and destroyed to be replaced with something non-"toxic" (never outright stated, but the implication is femininity), and thus any man that opposes this "better" social order is not doing so because it's in his nature but because he actively chooses to be a "bad" person and thus deserves to be punished.

[ask_again_later]

Well, what is a "woman"? There's no particular reason you can't say a woman is someone with two XX chromosomes - after all, that is the biological determinant of being female. I haven't followed this person - do they want Krem not to exist because they're trans, or want Krem to act like a woman? That would make them a bigot. Whether or not Krem is a woman is arguing over semantics and definitions.

 

"Gender" is a synonym for "sex" in all but sociology, gender studies and feminist theory. The whole reason it was redefined was essentially to attempt to paint masculinity and femininity as social constructs because for some reason there's people who don't want to or cannot believe that each sex, taken as a whole, has innate biological differences in behaviour from the other. It also allows radical feminists to paint masculinity not as an unconscious innate part of being a man but as a social construction that can be broken down and destroyed to be replaced with something non-"toxic" (never outright stated, but the implication is femininity), and thus any man that opposes this "better" social order is not doing so because it's in his nature but because he actively chooses to be a "bad" person and thus deserves to be punished.

All right, you have a point. Then let me correct myself: this person is not a bigot. They are an *******.

[CoM Solaufein]

DA has taught me that little fey elves love to be dominated by big hulking Qunari.

[Cobra's_back]

That elves really are jerks.     And stupid, my god, Merrill, please!

 

That mages really are batshit crazy.    Except Dorian, of course.

 

That the combination of both is going to doom us all.      I thought you were cool, Solas...

 

In fact, EVERYTHING is the fault of ancient magical elves.      And you thought you had it bad in Tevinter, Fenris.

 

Be smarter next time and stick to your loyal human warrior friends. They will never let you down.     I love you so much Alistair, Aveline and Cassandra.

 

 

Seriously, Dragon Age has turned me from a free mages advocate and open-minded elf enthusiast into a mage-hating racist. I finally understand where all the resentment in Thedas is coming from. I applaud Bioware for trolling me so royally...

 

 

OMG, I laughed so hard. I love your post.

 

Thank you

[Guitar-Hero]

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