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My Dear Boy,

 

Your pious outrage might earn you some approval with your knight-lieutenant, but I beg you to join the rest of us in the real world, lad. Do you have any idea just how wealthy the Circles of Magi can be? The amount of goldarrow-10x10.png the nobility pays for enchanted goods would overflow a well. Many mages-particularly Lucrosians-are from good families, used to entertainments and the finer things in life...And Maker knows they can afford them. So why shouldn't they indulge a little?
Besides, a few musicians and dancers and an elaborate dinner is nothing.  There are a dozen acting troupes in Val Royeaux who specialize in bringing plays and stories into Circle Towers. A little colapsible scenary, the right costumes, a sprinkle of artfully chosen scent, and they can transform a workshop into an enchanted forest, a cold courtyard into a war tent on the eve of battle, or a dining hall inot a darkspawn lair.

 

When mages entertain themselves, now that's a sight. I've seen ones who could juggle fire into ice or breathe a word into one hand and release a song from the other. I once saw a mage build a cathedral out of playing cards, upside down, yet it was impossible to knock it over! Even a game of battledore and shuttlecock takes on new dimension when the players can move objects with their minds.

 

It isn't all idle entertainment either; most mages I know are eager to put their hands to useful work. Those gorgeous wooden panels in the teyrn's castle at Ostwick? The ones that show the Qunari Wars on the Waking Sea? All carved by an enchanter at the city's Circle, over the ten years he spent there. More than a few palaces have benefited from the artistry of mages; tapestries, stained glasses, anything that takes time and patience.

In my day, some knight-captains frowned on mages spending their time and magical power for "frivolous ends".

Frivolous? Any mages with enough fine control to keep an audience enthralled, or to build a mosaic of Andraste, has better mastery of their magic than one who only uses it to destroy. Leave the moralizing to the revered mothers, my boy. It's not for us to say how a person should stay occupied in their own home.

World of Thedas, Volume 2, page 176.

 

Now, to the layman this may appear to be the life wealthy craftsmen; an higher class of society, especially when compared to the peasantry or those poor bastards in Darktown.

But I assure, this is the very heart of OPRESSION! And yes, it is worth it to endanger the lives of said peasantry so that a mage may enjoy wealth and entertainment from the comfort of their own homes.

Anyone who says otherwise is a collaborator and should be burnt at the stake!


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If we give you Criss Angel and David Blaine, will you leave the rest of the stage magicians alone?

 

:P



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I wouldn't mind some Templar wood.

Yeah, I only read the title.

I'm so sorry!

*slinks away*
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MisterJB

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I wouldn't mind some Templar wood.

Yeah, I only read the title.

I'm so sorry!

*slinks away*

*Ahem* It's a title and the draft of one, thank you very much.





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I wouldn't mind some Templar wood.

Yeah, I only read the title.

I'm so sorry!

*slinks away*

no need for shame I want some too
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Boomshakalakalakaboom

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no need for shame I want some too


That armour though. *whistles*

;)

Anyway, stop derailing the thread, Monkey. :P
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raging_monkey

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That armour though. *whistles*

;)

Anyway, stop derailing the thread, Monkey. :P

I can't help it it's the thought of the upstanding knights lol
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I wouldn't mind some Templar wood.

Yeah, I only read the title.

I'm so sorry!

*slinks away*

 

What's this about Cullen's desk?

 

;)


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I can't help it it's the thought of the upstanding knights lol

  

*pats back*

I feel ya. :D


What's this about Cullen's desk?
 
;)


That's a lot of wood......

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That's a lot of wood......

 

And extremely sturdy.


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*pats back*

I feel ya. :D



That's a lot of wood......

yeah it is haha


OT: that interesting but don't all circles operate different is this a Gen rule of regional

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Now that the cancerous tumors like Meredith, Lambert, and the rest of the Seekers are being excised, we can get the Circles back on track.



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raging_monkey

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I figured you to enjoy Lambert bac

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I do think the author of that missive is probably right: it takes more skill to create beautiful stained-glass windows with magic than it does to kill people with magic. You may resume talking about Templar wood now. *snerk*


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It's to bad that all Circles don't function that way. Would probably help stop this whole rebellion issue. 



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And what about Mages who weren't crafters or musicians? Are they non-people cause they don't have any talents that the Chantry can milk for their own gains?


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Uh.

 

The money belongs to the Circle, not the Chantry.



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SgtSteel91

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Uh.

 

The money belongs to the Circle, not the Chantry.

 

And the Circle belongs to the Chantry. Mages are allowed to be musicians/woodworkers/dances/etc by the Chantry and the Templars.



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Yes.

 

And they are also allowed to keep all of their money and do what they want with it, including pay for entertainment and even go on the occassional shopping trip.

 

So the Chantry isn't milking them.

 

The Circle pays for itself. The mages keep their money. They are not slaves to the Chantry.



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I wouldn't mind some Templar wood.

 

You could try to romance Cullen. *Ba-dum-tish*



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BioWare obviously thought they dropped the ball with DA2, that's why they keep shitting all over the Mage/Templar and Daish issues. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. 



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World of Thedas, Volume 2, page 176.

 

Now, to the layman this may appear to be the life wealthy craftsmen; an higher class of society, especially when compared to the peasantry or those poor bastards in Darktown.

But I assure, this is the very heart of OPRESSION! And yes, it is worth it to endanger the lives of said peasantry so that a mage may enjoy wealth and entertainment from the comfort of their own homes.

Anyone who says otherwise is a collaborator and should be burnt at the stake!

 

OP, correct me if I'm wrong, because I would hate to mistake your intent, but are you using a letter written about more relaxed circle policies, by the hand of a remarkably relaxed retired Templar, as a jibe against those who criticize the less relaxed circle policies?

 

Because if so, this is some impressively passive aggressive shots being fired. 


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Ah ****, I'm late to this, but here goes...

I wouldn't mind some Templar wood.

Yeah, I only read the title.

I'm so sorry!

*slinks away*

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OP, correct me if I'm wrong, because I would hate to mistake your intent, but are you using a letter written about more relaxed circle policies, by the hand of a remarkably relaxed retired Templar, as a jibe against those who criticize the less relaxed circle policies?

 

Because if so, this is some impressively passive aggressive shots being fired. 

 

Passive agressive for sure but you must clarify what you mean by "criticize" and "less relaxed Circle policies."

 

As it is, this arguments the notions perpretated by some that Circle towers are slave pen and that violent rebellion is justified.
 



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Tbh I really think DA2 went a bit over the top on the MT issue And failed at creating a fair view