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[Prestacious]

Hey guys, I thought i'd start this thread although this challenge series is x3lander's baby so i'll let him post in here to reveal some ideas.

All I'll say is that x3lander mentioned releasing 1 or 2 challenges a week for the duration of the series (which is awesome) and I thought to add that if we could get some ideas put together RL permitting, it'd be cool to at least start on the thread's 2 year aniversary!

That's all for now
Pres out!

The floor is yours good sir x3lander!

[AW_FC_1986]

The floor is yours good sir x3lander!

 

 

Oh wait, I wasn´t meant. Nevermind.

 

Looks like I have to quit my little break and start leveling up again very soon.

[Prestacious]

3 days til anniversary!!! So much party planning to do #what?

[xelander]

All right, I've been toying with some challenge ideas and I've also been perusing some old ME2 videos which were both inspirational and highly educational to me back in the day. So I decided to create an ME2 inspired challenge series (with lots and lots of Vanilla Humans ), where all characters are part of the ME2 squad. And since that game was pretty damn awesome, we'll be stealing wholesale the title and the trailer...heh-heh-heh...

 

Fight for the Lost

 

 

I'll make a few posts outlining the rules, character concepts and the specific challenge compositions (teams/map/enemy, etc.). I'll also be editing them as the discussion progresses, so we can all see what the current status is.

 

In this post I'll introduce the rules.

 

We'll be tackling two difficulties - Hardcore (Gold) and Platinum (Insanity), and we will have trios, duos and solos, 12 of each plus a bonus round. Pres and I were thinking releasing one set of each type per week will be a nice rhythm.

 

Challenge Rules:

 

 

Duo and Trio Challenges:

 

- Not permitted:

    # Armored Compartments or Geth Scanner

    # Medi-gel use on objective waves and extraction wave.

    # Pizza running or Hack gltiching

    # Level 4 consumables (Hardcore)

    # Cyclonics (Hardcore)

    # Cyclonics level 4 (Insanity)

- Only one squad member is allowed use of missiles (but they can be use them at any time). That member must be one of the following: Shepard, Miranda, Jacob, Garrus.

- Full Extraction is required.

 

*For those of us who reload-cancel with medi-gel and may accidentally revive themselves, one strike is allowed for duos and two strikes for trios.

 

 

Solo Challenges:

 

- Not permitted:

    # Armored Compartments or Geth Scanner

    # Level 4 consumables (Hardcore)

 - Mission Successful is required.

 - Waves Survived medal requirements are waived on Insanity (unless specifically stated otherwise).

 

 

Achievements:

 

Format: Hardcore title / Insanity title

 

Complete all trio challenges

Master and Commander / Captain at war

 

Complete all trio challenges as a team

Auxilia Extraordinaria / Auxilia Palatina

 

Complete all duo challenges

Semper fidelis / Unus pro omnibus

 

Complete all duo challenges as a team

Alae Extraordinariae / Alae Audentiae

 

Complete all solo challenges

Implanted: Starchild / Starbrat

Indoctrinated: Shepard ad portas! / Ultimus Terranorum

 

 

Use Cryo ammo in 3 solo challenges

White Death / Icebreaker

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Score 3 Full Extraction medals against Reapers in solo challenges

Master of the Rearguard / Boy Scout

 

Score 3 gold killstreak medals against Collectors in solo challenges

Demolisher / Overachiever

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Score 3 silver(Hardcore) or bronze(Insanity) Waves Survived medals against Geth in solo challenges

Machinist / Tinkerer

 

Score 3 gold headshot medals against Cerberus in solo challenges

Sharpshooter / Bullet Miser

 

Closing image for the series:

 

 

A couple of questions:

I was thinking, regarding solos and WS medals, we might try to relax the Insanity requirements by one degree (10 WS on Hardcore becomes 5 WS on Insanity). Do you think this will make the solos too difficult?

I wanted to restrict the use of Cyclonics, but it might be too punishing for Insanity duos, so I settled for level 3 consumables on Hardcore and level 4 on Insanity. Which version do you like better?

[xelander]

As mentioned above, we will use the squad from ME2, which means 12 squad members (well, I omitted Morinth) , plus Liara (we do get a bonus round). Here are my concepts for those teammates:

 

Miranda: Human Sentinel

Weapons: Carnifex, Hornet

Caveats: I wanted to simulate the shield-stripping ability of ME2 Overload, but the HSent is not much good at it. I was thinking of imposing Disruptor rounds when she's using the heavy pistol (and Disruptor or Warp when using SMG).

 

Jacob: Human Vanguard with no Charge and specced into Lifting Nova.

Weapons: Eviscerator, Paladin, Wraith, Talon

Caveats: Jacob's skillset from ME2 is hard to emulate with MP kits, so I thought Lifting Shockwave and i-frames from Nova may be an interesting take on it. i feel we'll need to compensate for the lack of Charge by giving him strong weapons.

 

Garrus:  Turian Soldier, Turian Soldier with only AP or Disruptor ammo allowed, or TGI without stims

Weapons: Viper (Valiant on Insanity), Vindicator (Valkyrie on Insanity), Argus, Incisor

Caveats: TGI is an infiltrator and has Overload, so it should be a good fit... but that class is such monstrosity...so either that with no stimulant-god-this-is-so-boring-packs (and I'll still have to swallolw the jet-boots dodge). Or we can go the classic route with the TSol and perhaps encourage/enforce the use of Disurptor to simulate the shield-stripping abilities that were so useful in ME2.

 

Mordin: Salarian Engineer, possibly locked into using Cryo ammo (to simulate Cryo Blast)

Weapons: Hornet, Valiant, Carnifex or Paladin

 

Zaeed: Talon merc with no cain mines

Wepaons: Graal, Lancer

Caveats: The Talon merc has two very unique styles of play and neither corresponds well to Zaeed's skillset form ME2, but I can;t find any better fit, so I'll stick to the traditional interpretation.

 

Kasumi: N7 Shadow

Weapons: Locust, Eagle, Executioner, Suppressor or Paladin

Caveats: Locust may be too weak

 

Grunt: Krogan Soldier

Weapons: Claymore, Graal

 

Thane: Drell Adept

Weapons: Valiant, Hurricane

 

Tali: Female Quarian Infiltrator

Weapons: Geth Pulse Shotgun, Arc Pistol

Caveats: some people go with FQE for this, but I feel the the FQI and Sabotage correspond better to ME2 Tali. FQE has Mordin's powers, really.

 

Samara: Asari Justicar Adept

Weapons: Mattock, Hurricane

 

Jack: Human Adept with Shockwave

Weapons: Eviscerator, Predator (or Phalanx, or Carnifex)

 

Legion: GI

Weapons: Widow, Valkyrie, Mattock

Caveats: Up until now people have had Legion as GE in the challenge series, without any compelling reason. So, to the joy of ex-clusum, here is /thread, aaah, Legion, I mean.

 

Liara: Asari Adept specced into Stasis

Weapons: Collector SMG

[xelander]

Week 1. Arete

 

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Reactor Hazard

- Earn 3 Waves Survived medal, 6 gold medals

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Soldier) with M-76 Revenant

- Miranda (Human Sentinel) with M-6 Carnifex

- Thane (Drell Adept) with N7 Valiant

 

 

Week 2. Pankration

 

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Firebase Ghost

- Earn 100 melee kills combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Adept) with Graal Spike Thrower

- Zaeed (Talon Merc, no Cain Mines specced) with Graal Spike Thrower

- Grunt (Krogan Soldier) with Graal Spike Thrower

 

 

Week 3. Thymos

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Hydra

- Earn 125 biotic kills combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Vanguard) with M-3 Predator

- Samara (Asari Justicar) with M-9 Tempest

- Jack (Human Adept, must spec into Shockwave) with M-3 Predator

 

 

Week 4. Koinon Quarion

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase London

- Earn 50 assists each

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Sentinel) with M-99 Saber

- Garrus  (Turian Soldier, only Disruptor or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-55 Argus

- Tali (Quarian Female Infiltrator, must spec into Sabotage) with Geth Plasma Shotgun

 

 

Week 5. Erinys

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Dagger

- Earn 7 gold medals combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Soldier) with M-98 Widow

- Jack (Human Adept, must spec into Shockwave) with M-22 Eviscerator

- Garrus  (Turian Soldier, only Disruptor or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-15 Vindicator

 

 

Week 6. Ostomachion

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Giant

- Earn 110 Tech kills

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Engineer) with Arc Pistol

- Mordin (Salarian Engineer) with Arc Pistol

- Tali (Quarian Female Infiltrator) with Arc Pistol

 

 

Bonus Week. Aigis

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Vancouver

- Earn either 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity), or one Revives gold medal

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Infiltrator) with M-22 Eviscerator

- Miranda (Human Sentinel) with M-6 Carnifex

- Jacob (Human Vanguard, must spec into Lifting Shockwave)  with M-22 Eviscerator

 

Week 7. Kleptomania

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase White

- Earn 20 Headshots (each)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Sentinel) with M-99 Saber

- Kasumi (N7 Shadow) with Collector SMG

- Jacob (Human Vanguard, must spec into Lifting Shockwave) with M-77 Paladin

 

 

Week 8. Talos

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase Glacier

- Earn 175 weapon kills combined OR 50 assists (each) OR 4 silver or higher medals in Tech, Biotic and Weapon kills.

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Engineer) with M-99 Saber

- Legion (Geth Infiltrator) with N7 Valkyrie

- Thane (Drell Adept) with N7 Hurricane

 

 

Week 9. Anabasis

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Ghost

- Earn 8 gold medals combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Infiltrator) with M-98 Widow and M-25 Hornet

- Miranda (Human Sentinel) with M-25 Hornet

- Garrus  (Turian Soldier, only Disruptor or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-29 Incisor

 

 

Week 10. Agema

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase White

- Earn 20 Headshots (each), 125 assists combined, 200 kills combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Adept) with M-300 Claymore

- Grunt (Krogan Soldier) with M-300 Claymore

- Legion (Geth Infiltrator) with M-98 Widow

 

 

Week 11. Navarchos

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Goddess

- Earn 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Vanguard) with M-300 Claymore

- Miranda (Human Sentinel) with M-25 Hornet

- Mordin (Salarian Engineer) with M-25 Hornet

 

 

Week 12. Nikator

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Firebase Goddess

- Earn 10 gold medals combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Infiltrator) with M-98 Widow and M-25 Hornet

- Liara (Asari Adept, must spec into Stasis) with Collector SMG

- Samara (Asari Justicar) with M-96 Mattock

[xelander]

reserved for duos

 

These will be akin to the Loyalty Missions, so it will always be Shepard and a squad member.

 

Week 1. The Code wills it!

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Ghost

- Earn 50 assists (each)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Engineer) with M-77 Paladin

- Samara (Asari Justicar) with M-96 Mattock

 

 

Week 2. Suspected use of VI assistance

 Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase White

- Earn 20 Headshots (each) and 5 Waves Survived

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Soldier) with M-99 Saber

- Legion (Geth Infiltrator) with M-98 Widow

 

 

Week 3. A Friendly Competition

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Vancouver

- Earn 20 headshots medal before 25 Sniper Rifle kills (each)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Infiltrator) with N7 Valiant

- Garrus (Turian Soldier, only Disruptor or Armor-Piercing Ammo allowed) with N7 Valiant

 

 

Week 4. Corporate Espionage

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Firebase White Hazard

- Earn 6 gold medals combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Adept) with M-25 Hornet

- Mordin (Salarian Engineer) with M-25 Hornet

 

 

Week 5. Tactical Supremacy

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Ghost Hazard

- Earn 20 headshots (each)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Infiltrator) with M-25 Hornet and M-98 Widow

- Miranda(Human Sentinel)  with M-25 Hornet

 

 

Week 6. Now you see me...

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Glacier

- Earn 5 grabs each and 7 gold medals combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Infiltrator) with AT-12 Raider

- Kasumi (N7 Shadow)  with Executioner Pistol

 

 

Bonus Week. Embrace Eternity!

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Hydra

- Earn 7 gold medals combined and 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Vanguard) with M-77 Paladin

- Liara (Asari Adept, must spec into Stasis) with Collector SMG

 

 

Week 7. Abort, Retry, Fail?

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase Reactor Hazard

- Earn 175 tech and weapon kills combined

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Engineer) with M-99 Saber

- Tali (Quarian Female Engineer) with Geth Plasma Shotgun

 

 

Week 8. Shrouds of Doom

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Firebase Dagger Hazard

- Earn 20 headshots (each) and 3 killstreaks

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Vanguard) with M-300 Claymore

- Thane (Drell Adept)  with M-300 Claymore

 

 

Week 9. Ghost in the Machine

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase Giant Hazard

- Earn 7 medals higher than bronze

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Sentinel) with M-96 Mattock

- Jacob (Human Vanguard, must spec into Lifting Shockwave)  with M-11 Wraith

 

 

Week 10. Vae Victis!

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Firebase Jade

- Earn 3 killstreaks

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Soldier) with M-300 Claymore

- Jack (Human Adept, must spec into Shockwave) with M-11 Wraith

 

 

Week 11. Just Another Day at Work...

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Goddess

- Earn 7 gold medals combined or 5 gold medals combined and a Waves Survived medal

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Sentinel) with Disciple

- Zaeed (Talon Merc, no Cain Mines specced) with M-99 Saber

 

 

 

Week 12. Vode An!

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Glacier Hazard

- Earn 50 assists (each)

Characters & Weapons:

- Shepard (Human Adept) with M-358 Talon

- Grunt (Krogan Soldier) with M-300 Claymore

[xelander]

Week 1. Banzai Biotics

Conditions: Combat Reapers on Firebase Hydra

- Earn 5 Waves Survived, 25 biotic kills, 50 Shotgun kills

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Adept (only Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-300 Claymore

 

Dedication: This challenge is dedicated to Bozorgmehr, whose mastery of biotics could be envied even by asari matriarchs.

 

 

Week 2.  Just one step closer...

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Giant Hazard

- Earn 25 tech kills, 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Sentinel (only Cryo, Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with AT-12 Raider

 

Many problems, one solution.

 

 

Week 3. For Whom The Bell Tolls

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Rio

- Earn 4 gold medals

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Soldier (Only Cryo, Disruptor, Incendiary or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with N7 Typhoon

 

 

Week 4.  Diversant

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase Dagger Hazard

- Earn 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Engineer (only Cryo or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-6 Carnifex

 

 

Week 5. Scrapyard Adventures

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase Vancouver

- Must spec fully into Shockwave.

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Vanguard (Only Cryo, Incendiary,  Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-99 Saber

 

 

Week 6. The Agent

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Goddess

- Earn 20 Headshots and 75 Assault Rifle kills

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Infiltrator (only Cryo, Disruptor or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-96 Mattock and Scorpion

Dedication: This challenge goes out to Tony Gunslinger

 

 

Bonus Week. Shoot from the Hip

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Ghost Hazard

- Shoot a harpoon through a phantom's face. Send a phantom's corpse flying in the sky. Stop dragoon rush by putting a spike through his left eye. Introduce seamless improvements in an Atlas' canopy by use of the "BPP" specialist tool.

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Infiltrator (only Cryo, Disruptor or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with Kishock Harpoon Gun and Blood Pack Punisher

 

 

Week 7. Walking on Sunshine

Conditions: Combat Geth on Firebase Giant

- Earn 20 headshots

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Adept (only Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-15 Vindicator (Hardcore) or M-96 Mattock (Insanity)

 

 

 

Week 8. I have a Shotgun...

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase White

- Must spec into Drone. Earn 50 Shotgun kills, 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Engineer (only Cryo or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-22 Eviscerator(Hardcore) or M-11 Wraith(Insanity)

 

Dedication: Master sinosleep

 

 

Week 9. King of the Hill

Conditions: Combat Reaper on Firebase Condor

- Earn 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Sentinel (only Cryo, Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with Acolyte and M-25 Hornet(Hardcore) or N7 Hurricane (Insanity)

 

Dedication: Master cruz1ale

 

 

Week 10. Blitzkrieg

Conditions: Combat Reaper on Firebase Jade

- Earn 3 killstreaks

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Soldier (Only Cryo, Disruptor, Incendiary or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-300 Claymore

 

Dedication: Master RedCaesar97

 

 

Week 11. Right In Two

Conditions: Combat Collectors on Firebase Ghost

- Earn silver medal or higher with each weapon

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Infiltrator (only Cryo, Disruptor or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-25 Hornet and M-98 Widow

 

Dedication: Master thisisme8

 

 

Week 12. Vulgar Display Of Power

Conditions: Combat Cerberus on Firebase Ghost

- Cyclonics restrictions are waived

- (Implanted) Earn 5 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 3 Waves Survived (Insanity)

- (Indoctrinated) Earn 10 Waves Survived (Hardcore) or 5 Waves Survived (Insanity)

Characters & Weapons:

- Human Vanguard (Only Cryo, Incendiary,  Warp or Armor-Piercing ammo allowed) with M-300 Claymore

 

Dedication: Master Kronner

[AW_FC_1986]

I would waive waves survived on platinum solos. Platinum soloing with some kits/weapons can be very difficult when going after the wave survived medal.  

 

I would also use mission successful on platinum solos, too. I see a high rage potential there.

 

Question: Why does Mordin have a sniper rifle? He is restricted on SMGs and pistols only.

[Prestacious]

Anniversary hype!!!! Alright, I'll get to work on my end to get the images and put it together for the first three challenges tomorrow. I'm also going to re-unretire for this series. Gon be gud! kaxas curry me to glory with the mlg shield please! We should see if we can get ctc and continue with the triune trials again. man I'm going to suck at this game haha.

[xelander]

I would waive waves survived on platinum solos. Platinum soloing with some kits/weapons can be very difficult when going after the wave survived medal.  

 

I would also use mission successful on platinum solos, too. I see a high rage potential there.

 

Question: Why does Mordin have a sniper rifle? He is restricted on SMGs and pistols only.

 

Changed the rules accordingly.

Regarding Mordin - I felt it's going to be too much of Paladin and Carnifex, and since he was STG, proficiency in use of snipers is not far-fetched. I also had some specific idea for an all-sniper challenge with him that I can't remember right now... We can still come to that later, right now let's just get this series started.

 

Also, do you think removing Cyclonics from Platinum duos would be too punishing (especially with the no gel policy)? I think trios can handle it, but duos would be hard. I also don't want to gimp the players so much that they have to play too cautiously and have no fun.

[Prestacious]

Changed the rules accordingly.

Regarding Mordin - I felt it's going to be too much of Paladin and Carnifex, and since he was STG, proficiency in use of snipers is not far-fetched. I also had some specific idea for an all-sniper challenge with him that I can't remember right now... We can still come to that later, right now let's just get this series started.

 

Also, do you think removing Cyclonics from Platinum duos would be too punishing (especially with the no gel policy)? I think trios can handle it, but duos would be hard. I also don't want to gimp the players so much that they have to play too cautiously and have no fun.

 

Yes, I think removing cyclonics will limit participation in the platinum duos to only a select few top players. I agree, trios should be fine.

[xelander]

What about no cyclonics for Hardcore trios and only max level 3 cyclonics for insanity trios?

[Salarian Jesus]

Anniversary hype!!!! Alright, I'll get to work on my end to get the images and put it together for the first three challenges tomorrow. I'm also going to re-unretire for this series. Gon be gud! kaxas curry me to glory with the mlg shield please! We should see if we can get ctc and continue with the triune trials again. man I'm going to suck at this game haha.

Yessir!

[TheNightSlasher]

Good series...

 

The lack of venom though.......

(I blame BioWare for not introducing venom in ME2)

[Prestacious]

watch out pc.. eggsbox is coming for you!

[Prestacious]

[AW_FC_1986]

Good series...

 

The lack of Reegar Carbine though.......

(I blame BioWare for not introducing Reegar Carbine in ME2)

 FTFY

[xelander]

Can you guys give me some feedback as regards to the concepts for Jacob and Garrus (TSol, TSol* or TGI without stims). I'd like to hear your opinions.

 

Paging TTT!

[AW_FC_1986]

^Leave it as it is. Garrus is more TSol in ME2 and ME3 than TGI.