Yarp, you should checkout Wavebend's thread. It seems to be more of what you would like to see. http://forum.bioware...promoted-scrub/
Finding out Cool Beats can do a substantial amount of DPS, that PC doesn't trigger encore correctly and when it does trigger still consumes mana obviously wasn't any benefit to you.
You're really going to play this off as the rest of us are the aggressive rabble-rousers?
I think I'm okay with being on your ignore list.
Actually you're not among them. You can pretty easily guess who is however.
Waveband thread gives tips for solo play, are you even read my posts?
Yes, I read your posts. If Wavebend can solo with that playstyle, I'm certain it would work just fine in a group environment. Wavebend, feel free to chime in if I'm mistaken.
Power Cord is best offensive ability zither has. Not cool beats.
Cool beats use "worst" type of elemental damage, require precise aiming and even damage isn't that great, when we all know that burst is the king.
Finding out that skill which deal damage deals damage....omg what a suprise...
A surprise it was, eh?
Drasca, the fact that we don't know the exact conditions doesn't change the fact that under the
majorityof conditions the following is true:
Unknown conditions. I get lots of encores with PC, though it isn't 100%, it definitely isn't that 2-5% SB gets
Soooo is there going to be a video or no?
P.S. I was going to suggest level 5, but whatever.
I'm cool with that
, epecially since I can trigger encore with it (and you wouldn't without leaving CB un-upgraded). Really though, there's multiple points to speedruns, and multiple objectives.Take your pick, and we can agree on whether that's worth doing or not.
PS: If you manage to solo perilous with virtuoso at level 5, congratulations. I'll make an attempt too, since I just got a level 5 Virtuoso after farming routine dragons for the achievement. No level restrictions, just more impressive at lower levels.
Where's the congratulation Drasca, or video of you doing it at level 5 with PC?
Edit: Found it
LOL peanut gallery's rabble rousing doesn't matter. Its the rules between SB and myself that do. The peanut gallery means absolutely nothing. You should put them on the ignore list as I do.
PS: I posted the first video, and cleared at the lowest level at the fastest time first.
You can't lose a challenge if you can't see other people post proof of them beating you AMIRITE?!
LOL No wonder you were feeling burned out. What is that, at least six runs in one day? I like to play my main game, and this challenge is just a side-dish for entertainment purposes.
They didn't take all that long to record. One was my first try, another my second. That's 3 right there for 2/3 of my videos. Seeing as a run takes a maximum of 15 minutes... not that much bad. What burned me out was your changing your argument and claiming mine was flawed whenever I proved my point. Far too much of my time invested for that.
Problem is how to use it good in general. Flaws of cool beats are connected not with skill itself but with usability problems around it. Where I have answer for it?
Those videos was a e-peens show off, even if snake or drasca does not think that way. There nothing new in them, nothing helpful for new players in them and nothing which can help other player to play game/class better.
In general, don't wade into large groups like I do. Usually when I broadcast, I explicitly tell people not to use the virtuoso as I do, because it just does not work that way without lots of promotions. CB is meant to be used at range while standing close to your party so you can keep buffing them.
As for it being e-peen... no doubt about it. If you actually read the first few pages, I was hesitant to accept his challenge because I saw no benefit to the community.
You've missed the whole point of Yarpen's arguement. It isn't about SB, but what he does and argues. CB isn't the end-all-be-all that SB proposes. I challenged SB so both of us put up video so we all benefit
Snake's Arguments:
When I entered the conversation, it looked like Drasca was putting PC forth as the be-all-end-all of virtuoso DPS. In fact, his immediate reaction when I said I have lots of success with CB was that I play old maps on threatening, because... you know... CB is useless.
When I entered the conversation, it looked like Drasca was putting PC forth as the be-all-end-all of virtuoso DPS. In fact, his immediate reaction when I said I have lots of success with CB was that I play old maps on threatening, because... you know... CB is useless.
Totally forgot about that. Gold.
PS: I posted the first video, and cleared at the lowest level at the fastest time first.
You posted the first on Elven Ruins and I followed it up half an hour later with FC only being 1 minute longer.
As far as I can tell, my level 5 is the lowest cleared so far. It took a very long time, so I have no doubt you can claim that victory.
I don't plan on doing a video of Elven Ruins at 9. Your victory is secure.
When I entered the conversation, it looked like Drasca was putting PC forth as the be-all-end-all of virtuoso DPS. In fact, his immediate reaction when I said I have lots of success with CB was that I play old maps on threatening, because... you know... CB is useless.
This is my typical game. Tell me you'd be spamming CB rather than other songs here, and I'd be calling you a liar. If you want, I can upload other videos too, of other maps, etc.
Snake's Arguments:
- CB is not flawed in the way Drasca claimed/claims.
- CB can do loads of damage.
Can in a solo with highly geared players with lots of critical damage, but does it in practice? The higher the burst damage from your team, and more spread out the targets, the less actual damage CB will do.
In my games CB wouldn't do much because everything would be dead before CB ticks more than twice (sometimes once or not at all), three if we're somehow not targetting and across the map on FC.
Perhaps cool beats is not good for you. This is NOT what a typical game looks like for me.
Oh this is gonna be great...really hope Snake deems this worthy of another lesson.
Every time I think this thread finally might die:
On the old maps, I can do this stuff solo in 8 minutes or less.
I already did a month ago, pre-avvar buff on a harder difficulty (perilous fereldan castle).
If the game is so easy to solo and doesn't take any skill, go do FC using your own build instead of ours. You wouldn't have touted your own build as being so awesome had you discovered ours under your own abilty-- because you clearly lack it.
Go ahead. Play the easiest faction with the easiest class and map against that faction, but that means absolutely zero except to prove you know how to cherry pick results
So Drasca admits that the original 3 maps are EZ no skill mode. Admits demons are the easiest faction. Admits that FC is a much harder maps. Admits that playing on the original 3 maps vs easiest faction means 'absolutely zero except to prove you know how to cherry pick results'
Then claims his solo on original map vs demons is the better solo, despite only being a few seconds faster.
Ladies and gentleman, hypocrisy at its finest.
*snip*
This is my typical game. Tell me you'd be spamming CB rather than other songs here, and I'd be calling you a liar. If you want, I can upload other videos too, of other maps, etc.
Can in a solo with highly geared players with lots of critical damage, but does it in practice? The higher the burst damage from your team, and more spread out the targets, the less actual damage CB will do.
In my games CB wouldn't do much because everything would be dead before CB ticks more than twice (sometimes once or not at all), three if we're somehow not targetting and across the map on FC.
I would be spamming CB in that situation (here it comes!). The Virtuoso can run very quickly while casting, unlike the Duelist. You and the other Duelist spend a lot of time slowly walking forward and picking up gold. I would be sprinting past while still tagging targets with CB and be at the end of the zone mopping up mooks while you finished ones I ran past (but still contributed to killing). It would make this game right here go faster, which is exactly what your PC on FC demonstration was about.
My typical game is 1 or maybe 2 friends and 1 or 2 pugs. CB Virtuoso shines there and it would shine in your setting too.
Waveband thread gives tips for solo play, have you even read my posts?
Finding out that skill which deal damage deals damage....omg what a suprise...
yarpen singlehandedly keeping the thread alive while Drasca was sleeping.
Perhaps one day, the student will surpass the master.
Let's not start another thunderdome you'll slime your way out of.
This is the second thunderdome drasca has ran away from. First against Penguin in ME3 when he realized he would get smacked hard without coalesced mods, then here, a thunderdome he himself issued, when he realised that Snakebite is 1) A better player than he could ever hope to be and 2) Cool beats will clear maps faster than power chord will.
Slime is a natural electrical insulator.
I can remember when people thought that was the greatest movie quote of all time...
This is the second thunderdome drasca has ran away from.
He has not run away. He still has time to record and post his run; I was just a bit annoyed when I asked for results yesterday. In all fairness, he does have a couple more days to produce results.
He has not run away. He still has time to record and post his run; I was just a bit annoyed when I asked for results yesterday. In all fairness, he does have a couple more days to produce results.
You mean until tomorrow's twitch stream right?
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