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Official Cool Beats (Snakebite) vs Power Chord (Drasca) Thread - [Snakebite wins the Thunderdome due to Drascas failure to post an entry!]


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#101
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You misunderstood the point that I was making.

 

When someone makes a video to show something because they're "right" or "awesome" or whetever, they don't use objective scenarios and comparisons, they cherry-pick what makes them look good or reinforces their position. That was my first point..

Ugh, sorry, I did not realize you were making a point. :lol:

 

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My second point spoke to the tendency in the community to jump on any comment about such videos as an excuse to make it about "PC vs lol30FPS," which kinda seems like exactly what you just did.

 

Yes, I always tend to slide everything towards this subject. Regardless of what was said in the original. Some people do tend to turn everything into hackusations.



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THUNDERDOME RULES:

 

  • Fereldan Castle vs Red Templars with Shock Dragon (No dragon fight).

 

  • Drasca may only use Power Chord.

 

  • Snakebite may only use Cool Beats.

 

  • Both players may use Auto Attacks, A Little Knight Music and Barrier. 

 

Solo is timed from the moment the zone 1 door opens to the point where the last enemy in zone 5 is killed.

 

Both players have until the Friday twitch stream to submit their results. 

 

Any objections from Drasca/Snakebite? 

Lol.  Power Chord is a lightning attack and close range so it's rendered useless against a lightning dragon.  CB is not resisted by the dragon and is also ranged. The rules look completely biased to me.  


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#104
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Lol.  Power Chord is a lightning attack and close range so it's rendered useless against a lightning dragon.  CB is not resisted by the dragon and is also ranged. The rules look completely biased to me.  

 

You should work on your reading comprehension. He clearly said 'no dragon fight'.



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How did this turn into "My build and playstyle is better than yours"?  

 

All "build" threads turn out this way, without exception.  

 

I also don't get the purpose of the Thunderdome either.  Here's what's going to happen:  one video will be 1:22 seconds shorter than the other.  And then what?  Does that make one power terribad and the other godly?  meh.



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Yes, I always tend to slide everything towards this subject. Regardless of what was said in the original. Some people do tend to turn everything into hackusations.

 

J'hackuse!


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#107
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yoooo! how did i miss all of this? lmao. good read though.


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#108
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Thanks for pointing that out.  I totally glanced over that.  Did you really have to be a douche about it though?  



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Guys!

 

With a little work, we could totally take over the newsfeed!  :devil:



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All "build" threads turn out this way, without exception.

I also don't get the purpose of the Thunderdome either. Here's what's going to happen: one video will be 1:22 seconds shorter than the other. And then what? Does that make one power terribad and the other godly? meh.


Obviously.

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P.S. I was going to suggest level 5, but whatever.  [ ;)]

 

I'm cool with that :P , epecially since I can trigger encore with it (and you wouldn't without leaving CB un-upgraded). Really though, there's multiple points to speedruns, and multiple objectives.Take your pick, and we can agree on whether that's worth doing or not.

 

I did not know this triggers encore.  Very interesting...  :ph34r:

 

Since you didn't know about the encore feature, you've been doing worse without it. Have fun using it. You need to incorporate killer set encores consciously into your playstyle, weaving them in between magical songs.

 

It should make PC easier since you claim you're having difficulty getting encore with PC. FB (or any magical song) --> killer set boosted basic attack (either kills and triggers encore or weakens) --> PC (kill and encore, or weaken enemies) --> basic attack or PC for another encore --> repeat.

 

The real point of showing off is the demonstration of skills involved by players that know how. Presumably that you're better at CB than I am, and vice versa with PC. Since I would be using the encores from killer set basic attacks in between PC as needed, I can produce a lot more PC than you previously imagined (even if PC fails to trigger encore, killer set would not)

 

Of course you have to balance between how much mana you have, and if you think your next song will finish the enemy vs slowing down for a killer set finish vs running to/away from an enemy. It is an intense thrill-ride weaving in and out of enemy range, watching mana, space control and damage.

 

I could cold beats kite as you do, and I have as needed, but I find I can PC and killer set encore as needed for the most part. This discovery is something everyone learning virutoso needs to learn. I did put it down as a footnote in my build guides, but its not like everyone reads those thoroughly.

 

Edit. P.S. I still do want data on how often PC misses encore on XB1.



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Lol.  Power Chord is a lightning attack and close range so it's rendered useless against a lightning dragon.  CB is not resisted by the dragon and is also ranged. The rules look completely biased to me.  

 

Did you miss the big 'No Dragon Fight' in brackets? L2Read!



#113
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Did you miss the big 'No Dragon Fight' in brackets? L2Read!

I did miss it.  I also ordered hooked on phonics



#114
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All "build" threads turn out this way, without exception.  

 

I also don't get the purpose of the Thunderdome either.  Here's what's going to happen:  one video will be 1:22 seconds signifigantly shorter than the other.  And then what?  Does that make one power terribad and the other godly?  meh.

 

FTFY. Actually I just want Snakebite to show off to everyone how he plays CB when he tries, and vice versa. However he didn't know about killer set encores, so that would've been in my favor (more free casts --> faster clear) if not for the fact I prefer people actually learning to play moreso than competition.



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Thunderdoming Drasca? You might as well step into the Arena against Gannicus.
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#116
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All "build" threads turn out this way, without exception.  

 

I also don't get the purpose of the Thunderdome either.  Here's what's going to happen:  one video will be 1:22 seconds shorter than the other.  And then what?  Does that make one power terribad and the other godly?

 

Allow me!

 

It will determine:

 

- The winner of everything

- The nature of the universe

- The American 2016 Presidential election

- The Canadian 2015 Parliamentary election (in that order - don't look confused, it's just a quirk of the length of campaign seasons)

- Whose God will be in charge for the next two and a half epochs (give or take an eon)

- Your mother (not you, specifically, the general "you")

- The winner of the final season of American Idol (I can hardly wait!)

- And, of course, The Ultimate Truth™ that will become sacrosanct on BSN, never to be questioned again for all of time

 

Heady stuff! Exciting stuff!  :police:



#117
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Bromance. <3


Hey, what's going on here? How dare you cheat on me with a badgeless peasant! You will be hearing from my lawyer. I want half of all your stuff.
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#118
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Guys!

 

With a little work, we could totally take over the newsfeed!  :devil:

 

Though the topic that stands out the most from this newsfeed clearly is the Good job on the BDSM romance one. :lol:

 

Also we're having e-peen thunderdome fights now? Bring yo popcorn and bring yo booze, you should be livestreaming this. :lol:

 

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#119
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Hey, what's going on here? How dare you cheat on me with a badgeless peasant! You will be hearing from my lawyer. I want half of all your stuff.


Due to a contractual discrepancy I get ALL his stuff.

I was the lawyer at your pre-nup negotiation.

#120
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Due to a contractual discrepancy I get ALL his stuff.

I was the lawyer at your pre-nup negotiation.


1v1 me in the lawyerdome brah.
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#121
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Though the topic that stands out the most from this newsfeed clearly is the Good job on the BDSM romance one. :lol:

Also we're having e-peen thunderdome fights now? Bring yo popcorn and bring yo booze, you should be livestreaming this. :lol:

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Hmm... I didn't even notice that. Pervert.
:P

#122
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Since you didn't know about the encore feature, you've been doing worse without it. Have fun using it. 

 

It should make PC easier since you claim you're having difficulty getting encore with PC.

 

 

FTFY. Actually I just want Snakebite to show off to everyone how he plays CB when he tries, and vice versa. However he didn't know about killer set encores, so that would've been in my favor (more free casts --> faster clear) if not for the fact I prefer people actually learning to play moreso than competition.

 

 

Do you have any idea how condescending this comes across as?  I learned something new, and I will use it.  There is no reason you need to make multiple posts referencing a bit of ignorance on my part, among other things.  I will give you credit on your knowledge of the game, but you presentation leaves a lot to be desired.

 

Showing people how I can speed through a level will not show people how to play properly due to the nature of taking risks that others couldn't survive just to kill quicker; and I would assume the same of yours.  I doubt this is about teaching people how to play;  seems more like feeding ego to me.


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#123
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1v1 me in the lawyerdome brah.


Challenge accepted.

You bring the pens and I shall bring the Big Book of Legal Precedents.

#124
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Showing people how I can speed through a level will not show people how to play properly due to the nature of taking risks that others couldn't survive just to kill quicker; and I would assume the same of yours.  I doubt this is about teaching people how to play;  seems more like feeding ego to me.

 

Wait, wait wait...

 

Okay, so you're saying that, uh...

 

wait...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

wait.....

 

 

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So...

 

You're saying there are non-ego related reasons to do things?


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#125
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Jeremiah is displaying a wisdom I've not seen since a guy asked me if I wanted diet or regular coke.

I wish to hear more from him.