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[Qun00]

Some of us might only consider the character's immediate reasons to do it.

"Is s/he crazy enough to mess with ancient and unknown magic?"

But I start to wonder about what I might miss by passing up on the opportunity.

You just know that being imbued with old elven knowledge and power as well as a connection to Mythal will unfold into an interesting outcome.

This basically is a Normal Kieran vs Old God Kieran kinda deal.

Not to mention that it might make the Inquisitor relevant to whatever is in store for Solas.

Of course, Morrigan being leashed to her mother should affect how their chaotic relationship will end, but the alternative seems more like something to look forward to.

[In Exile]

My characters always have the arcane knowledge perk. And once "binding geas of unknown power and influence" comes up, "lolnope" is my only answer. I'd much rather take my chances with the Well just turning Morrigan evil (from an in-character POV). 

 

Acquiring that knowledge might well have its uses, but I think when the price is a loss of autonomy the cost is never justified. 

[Hellion Rex]

Yeah, the geas instantly made me get the hell out of dodge. Knowledge is all well and good, but not at the potential cost of my freedom.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Acquiring that knowledge might well have its uses, but I think when the price is a loss of autonomy the cost is never justified. 

 

Well if you are a follower of the elven Pantheon, you are just serving one of your gods.

[Nehn]

If you're Inquisitor is Dalish shouldn't they jump at the chance to be infused with ancient knowledge and become closer to one of their gods (especially Mythal the protector and all-mother)? Who would pass that up?

Yes I know everyone had their own reasons for refusing the Well, but this seems the most compelling reason for someone to drink. Why let Morrigan, a human, take the knowledge of your people? 

 

Hopefully drinking from the Well will play a larger role later on, but Bioware might play it down because there are people who didn't drink ... 

[Drasanil]

I can see human/dwarf/cow Inquisitors turning the knowledge down just on the geas alone for sure. But I agree with Professor X and Nehn, most dalish would probably dive in face first and be damned the geas. After all being the servant of a god your already worship hardly seems like a price for recovering some your peoples' long lost knowledge. 

[Lazarillo]

Yeah, the geas instantly made me get the hell out of dodge. Knowledge is all well and good, but not at the potential cost of my freedom.

 

I think, from an in-character perspective, it isn't hard to imagine a Quizzie developing a bit of a martyr complex, given how hopes and fears get heaved on to him/her in such a short period of time.  For someone like that, the potential sacrifice is just another notch on the tally, perhaps.

 

On the other hand, thinking in-story, I would imagine a Quizzie that sought the Templars earlier in the game would be more inclined to hesitate, since thanks to Envy, s/he has seen exactly what the wrong kind of influence on the Inquisition's leader can have on the whole damn world.

 

And then, of course, there's the considerations a Dalish Quizzie might make, which have already been discussed.

 

As for me, I have two "canons" at the moment, that I plan to select from based on what fits better with how things turn out in the next game.  They're actually not that different (other than thematically, I suppose) on a lot of decisions, but the Well is a big one.  Basically, if the Quizzie him/herself has a big role to play in the future, I'm more likely to go with the one that drank from the Well (who is, indeed, Dalish).  If future games treat the "main character" of this game to be the Inquisition itself, rather than the PC (which I think would be a good way to go), I'll probably go with the one where Morrigan got to drink.  Besides, I do really sort of like the poetic irony in her getting exactly what she wanted, only to realize that she had to sacrifice exactly what she wanted it for in exchange.

[Qun00]

Yeah, the geas instantly made me get the hell out of dodge. Knowledge is all well and good, but not at the potential cost of my freedom.

I don't think it literally is just knowledge. There is some power to it, like what you did to that dragon.

Regardless, this isn't a discussion about the reward and price.

This thread is about the repercussion in the story after DA:I.

[In Exile]

Well if you are a follower of the elven Pantheon, you are just serving one of your gods.

I think even as a believer that jumping at the chance to be the slave to some magic spell that may or may not actually come from your god is a bad idea.

[Drasanil]

I think even as a believer that jumping at the chance to be the slave to some magic spell that may or may not actually come from your god is a bad idea.

 

Then you wouldn't be much of a believer in the first place would you? There's no reason to doubt it's Mythal's joo-joo pool Abelas/Solas/Morrigan pretty much all agree on that part. 

[Ashaantha]

I have no idea how they'll work the Well of Sorrows drinker into the future story now. It wasn't completely explained exactly what drinking from the Well gave other then whispering in one's head and knowledge, the will of all those who drank before.. what does that even mean?

 

Figuring out what it means in the future means figuring out what it actually is first, in my opinion.

[Drasanil]

I have no idea how they'll work the Well of Sorrows drinker into the future story now. It wasn't completely explained exactly what drinking from the Well gave other then whispering in one's head and knowledge, the will of all those who drank before.. what does that even mean?

 

Figuring out what it means in the future means figuring out what it actually is first, in my opinion.

 

Well, they gave us an idea of it with the dark ritual. It'll probably be irrelevant, they even have the excuse that Flemythal is dead so no need to think about it ever again.

 

Though I wouldn't object to there being more real consequences. 

[Ashaantha]

Well, they gave us an idea of it with the dark ritual. It'll probably be irrelevant, they even have the excuse that Flemythal is dead so no need to think about it ever again.

 

Though I wouldn't object to there being more real consequences. 

 

Flemeth may be dead, but Mythal is who you're bound to if you drink, not Flemeth. As far as I know Mythal is still running around talking to elves while they sleep post-game (ambient dialogue around Val Royeaux). I want to see proper consequences in the end for either Morrigan or Inquisitor drinking choices.

[BloodKaiden]

Flemeth may be dead, but Mythal is who you're bound to if you drink, not Flemeth. As far as I know Mythal is still running around talking to elves while they sleep post-game (ambient dialogue around Val Royeaux). I want to see proper consequences in the end for either Morrigan or Inquisitor drinking choices.

The fact is there isn't a proper consequence even with the Dark Ritual because player choice makes it hard to write around whether some did or didn't take the option. I had a good laugh with the Kieran OGB reveal that the Warden basically died needlessly (unless the ultimate sacrifice appeals to them rather than living and doing more good in the world) and the lost opportunity surrounding a OGB as a future companion or adversary. I seriously doubt there will be any dire consequence with drinking the well. I was more surprised that the game clearly revealed that there were true Elven Gods while the Maker is still a huge question mark. As far as what may come with the next game installment, maybe Mythral restores their longevity to all elves across Thedas and city/dalish elves finally have some connection that unites them under a true elven god.

[Ashaantha]

I think the above is the reason there's a tiny little less dramatic choices available in DAI. Instead of having 4-5 options for one specific thing ending, we have 2 options for the specific things (like who drinks from the Well, only two choices).

[KaiserShep]

My human Inquisitor knew what that pool was all about thanks to having arcane knowledge, so it was an obvious hells nah. If I was rolling a Dalish that was full-on elven mumbo jumbo then I'd have more of a reason to cast alarm aside and submit, and of course, keep elven knowledge out of the hands of some shemlen witch that thinks she knows best. 

[Reznore57]

Played a Dalish who wasn't into magic , even the anchor gave him an headache.

It was a tough choice at the Well but I just went with "No , thank you" .

 

I doubt the Well will give the Inquisitor much , you're bound to Mythal and her will ...Morrigan gets the great shapeshifting into a dragon perk , I'm pretty sure even a mage Inquisitor will never get this knowledge from the Well.

It seems at best you can read and understand old elven language .

[Incantrix]

Honestly, people seem to believe Mythal is this evil creature. I don't think so, I think she's quite benevolent from what we've seen. 

[Sifr]

Honestly, people seem to believe Mythal is this evil creature. I don't think so, I think she's quite benevolent from what we've seen. 

 

Benevolent, but not to be trifled with.

 

I think Mythal subscribes to the same school of thought on motherhood as Lois Griffin in Family Guy;

 

"I'm like one of those Bald eagles on the Discovery Channel. Beautiful to look at... but mess with one of my baby chicks and I'll use my razor-sharp talons to rip your f**king eyes out".

 

It's never a good idea to mess with someone's mother... and mother goddesses especially so?

 

[Incantrix]

Benevolent, but not to be trifled with.

 

I think Mythal subscribes to the same school of thought on motherhood as Lois Griffin in Family Guy;

 

"I'm like one of those Bald eagles on the Discovery Channel. Beautiful to look at... but mess with one of my baby chicks and I'll use my razor-sharp talons to rip your f**king eyes out".

 

It's never a good idea to mess with someone's mother... and mother goddesses especially so?

 

Welp, my inquisitor is an elf, hopefully with nothing to fear lol. 

[In Exile]

Then you wouldn't be much of a believer in the first place would you? There's no reason to doubt it's Mythal's joo-joo pool Abelas/Solas/Morrigan pretty much all agree on that part. 

 

I believe in Mythal =/= a random sect of ancient elves and Morrigan understand the tenets of "my" faith. 

[In Exile]

The fact is there isn't a proper consequence even with the Dark Ritual because player choice makes it hard to write around whether some did or didn't take the option. I had a good laugh with the Kieran OGB reveal that the Warden basically died needlessly (unless the ultimate sacrifice appeals to them rather than living and doing more good in the world) and the lost opportunity surrounding a OGB as a future companion or adversary. I seriously doubt there will be any dire consequence with drinking the well. I was more surprised that the game clearly revealed that there were true Elven Gods while the Maker is still a huge question mark. As far as what may come with the next game installment, maybe Mythral restores their longevity to all elves across Thedas and city/dalish elves finally have some connection that unites them under a true elven god.

 

The game didn't reveal there were "true" gods. They revealed there were powerful beings the elves worshiped as "gods". Those aren't necessarily gods in the conventional sense of the words. 

[Sakiboj]

For good ending, should inquisitor drink from the well or Morrigan? I wouldnt like to make evil Morigan in future

[AlexiaRevan]

I did it and I was a Qunari mage , Morrigan wasn't happy . But all I could think...was her son . 'Sorry ya mama went bonker and I could step in but didn't ?' ...nah....

 

I admit though...the whole thing felt like a ripp offf.....I though we could shape shift in dragon..not get a dragon Pokemon 

[Sakiboj]

I did it and I was a Qunari mage , Morrigan wasn't happy . But all I could think...was her son . 'Sorry ya mama went bonker and I could step in but didn't ?' ...nah....

 

I admit though...the whole thing felt like a ripp offf.....I though we could shape shift in dragon..not get a dragon Pokemon 

 

 

I feal excatly the same