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#51
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Or waiting for a spirit marked guardian to finally drop so we can, you know, open the treasure chest now.

 

That moment when you're all standing around awkwardly looking at the green Revenant/Arcane Horror and waiting.

 

"So... how's everyone doing today?"

This.



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I've already demonstrated this via WG eventually replaced with IM here:
http://forum.bioware...en-necromancer/
and here
http://forum.bioware...rite-mp-builds/
 
Note, I favor CQC and use of cover. Hit F4 on occasion once you take a good chokepoint. If your party dies because they were out in the open, that's their fault for not taking cover. If they're able to slaughter everything because they're OP, it wouldn't matter what you did regardless and enjoy the ride.
 
 

 
L2P or Lag issue. Works fine unless there's something console specific I'm not aware of. Need HoK and pet already captured for self rez. AI rules are the same as anything else. They aren't automatically aggroed until enemies reach line of sight. i.e. if you're halfway across the zone from the next enemy, the pet has nothing to aggro on. If you get a pet in the middle of an  enemy pack, i.e. cast SM on a target about to die, and it'll aggro immediately on the enemies in front of it.


There it is!
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There it is!

I was waiting for it.



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I was waiting for it.

 

clearly he is trying to tell you that a good way to alternatively sell a home is to lease2purchase.  Sometimes people just don't have the ability to come up with a big down payment and need another route to homeownership.


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clearly he is trying to tell you that a good way to alternatively sell a home is to lease2purchase.  Sometimes people just don't have the ability to come up with a big down payment and need another route to homeownership.

It's an expensive market these days.



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Went back to playing the Necro yesterday, had been a bit frustrated with the class because they are such a pin cushion and squishy.  However she did really well in perilous and especially dragon perilous.  Ha my usual horror and wintersgrasp but went back with Walking Bomb and energy barrage which btw is pretty good now.


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Went back to playing the Necro yesterday, had been a bit frustrated with the class because they are such a pin cushion and squishy.  However she did really well in perilous and especially dragon perilous.  Ha my usual horror and wintersgrasp but went back with Walking Bomb and energy barrage which btw is pretty good now.

I might swap spirit mark out for energy barrage to self rez seeing as how hit and miss SM seems to be. Drop an EB just before spirit timer ends. Have you had much luck doing this?



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I avoid spirit mark, almost never use it.  It has always seemed to suck for me an almost every one I played with, with one exception, one player really seemed to lnow how to get something out of it but most others including me get little use out of it.



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I've never had issues with SM.   Though I have played with others who had issues with the revive.   I did try the FF build on my last Necro promote.  As you said, you do have to pick your targets for the FF to spread.  =)  I'm pretty flexible with my 4th skill.  Normally swap out between horror and FC as well.  


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The real question is does all this CC translate to XP? Do you see a massive boost in XP generation when using this build?



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The real question is does all this CC translate to XP? Do you see a massive boost in XP generation when using this build?


How do you get XP from the fade?
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How do you get XP from the fade?

 

every time you drop a shield from the fade you get 10 support XP for helping your teammates know where your floating corpse is.  This is a confirmed fact based on my irrefutable testing.  L2P from the fade you scrub! :wizard:


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The real question is does all this CC translate to XP? Do you see a massive boost in XP generation when using this build?

As much as a barrier class gets support XP wise. As a quick example I just got 15.5k xp for a perilous run.

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How do you get XP from the fade?

Rabble

every time you drop a shield from the fade you get 10 support XP for helping your teammates know where your floating corpse is.  This is a confirmed fact based on my irrefutable testing.  L2P from the fade you scrub! :wizard:

Rouser


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There it is!

 

LOL, this is how he repays you for carrying him all the time. I think he needs to join a certain list of individuals who will not be named.


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I was going to make a video but the DVR on the xbox one is awful and will only let you record 5 minutes worth of gameplay. Anyway have fun with the build if you like it and sorry it's so long :P

 

 

Good build advice.  May try this myself, sans Spirit Mark.

 

With regard to video capture, I have this and love it.  Captures nice 720p to my laptop.  Would do 1080p if my laptop could handle it.

 

https://www.elgato.c.../gamecapture-hd


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This is what cover is for, as it brings them to you. Also, notice how the freeze makes WB explode twice total if you manually detonate while frozen exploding once, and once again when their bodies shatter.


I guess I will try how to L2SM better.
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Good build advice.  May try this myself, sans Spirit Mark.
 
With regard to video capture, I have this and love it.  Captures nice 720p to my laptop.  Would do 1080p if my laptop could handle it.
 
https://www.elgato.c.../gamecapture-hd

Enjoy the build! Whatever works for you bro, I'm not really a fan of any of the other necro moves of I'm honest. I want to spread more status effects :(

Thank you for the advice :)
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LOL, this is how he repays you for carrying him all the time. I think he needs to join a certain list of individuals who will not be named.

You calling me a leech!?!

 

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You calling me a leech!?!

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Well I've heard occasionally you make a pretty good meat shield... ;)

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LOL, this is how he repays you for carrying him all the time. I think he needs to join a certain list of individuals who will not be named.

 

You don't want to incriminate yourself.  I understand. :P


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You don't want to incriminate yourself.  I understand. :P

Good to see you posting you lurker ;P


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I like to build my necro primarily on virulence and I've been getting increasingly frustrated with horror and trying to spread panic across enemies, due to the duration ending as soon as the enemy is attacked.
I was looking over our lord and saviour's posts on balance changes to date and flashfire's 400% weapon damage caught my eye.
 
I decided to drop horror for flashfire and I'm loving it, so my favourite build is:
 
Walking bomb (aim for a group) (remember to detonate early to spread WB faster)
Winters grasp (200% weapon damage, 266% with WG ring) (freeze the mob/freeze the most dangerous enemy)
Flashfire (400% weapon damage) (panic the mob/counter the charging druffalo/Gurn/Bogfisher)
Spirit mark (interchangeable with whatever you like)
 
The general idea of the build is to land the finishing blow using either winters grasp to spread freeze or flashfire to spread fear to all enemies within 10 meters. Then throwing walking bomb whenever you get the chance to hit a crowd or detonate WB to knock enemies down. You can use spirit mark whenever you are able to keep a constant spirit to help/give you HP upon killing it; I find so many bugs with trying to resurrect yourself using the mark that this skill can be pretty worthless at times and is therefore interchangeable with whatever you prefer.

 
Hey, another Flashfire + Virulence fan! *highfives*

 

 

I found Flashfire to work best (to spread Panic with Virulence), despite Horror seemingly being more ideal. That is even more so now that Flashfire has been buffed.


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Hey, another Flashfire + Virulence fan! *highfives*


Ah so that was your build and OP (the charleton that he is) stole it and tried to pass it off as his own build - For shame OP! I wish upon you nothing but highland dirks for the remainder of your DAMP playing days
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Been leveling my necro with this build (using FC instead of SM) and as promised up-thread I share my experience.

 

It.. is... holy-christ-on-a-bike-gawdwaful :( Now, before you rip me a new one, let me explain the context..

 

I am fairly new here so I just pug around in threatening (and a few runs perilious when I find a team and have a character I feel comfortable playing). Life in threatening pugs is pretty much a run-and-gun game where no one will tank anything and barriers are a rare commodity. In this context what this build does is:

 

1) Spread a lame DOT with walking bomb that will cause enemies to attack me.

2) Spread another lame DOT with virulence + FF that will cause enemies to attack me

3) Has simulacrum which prevent me from HoK ressing and makes sure no team mate will ever ress me (they have ran off by then...)

 

Now, mostly this problem seems inherent to walking bomb (and the terrible curse that is simulacrum that you have to take to get to it...) but with the ice mine build I could at least drop IM on myself and be reasonably tanky against all the aggro I get. FC is nowhere near enough to keep me alive and I cannot even imagine what it would be like playing without any defensive cooldown.



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Been leveling my necro with this build (using FC instead of SM) and as promised up-thread I share my experience.

 

It.. is... holy-christ-on-a-bike-gawdwaful :( Now, before you rip me a new one, let me explain the context..

 

I cannot even imagine what it would be like playing without any defensive cooldown.

 

Your perspective is valid for your context.

 

Try IM, Virulence, Ice Armor and FC WB on Perilous. Choose SM or MB or Horror for your fourth. Frost step as an emergency getaway if you must.

 

You get a minimum of three defensive abilities here. I've linked the details previously in this thread.