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[animedreamer]

Felix and his mother got attacked when Alexius wasn't around to them, thus he probably felt it was his fault and wanted to fix it himself. Also we don't know if the Wardens were readily available, and he may have been to far along to be saved, look how fast Aveline's husband Weasly died, he was succumbing to the taint ridiculously fast. He may not have time to find the Wardens and let them get the joining ritual ready for him, assuming he even knew that joining could possibly save his son, and if it failed he'd have also not be able to help him at all.

[The Hierophant]

Felix and his mother got attacked when Alexius wasn't around to them, thus he probably felt it was his fault and wanted to fix it himself. Also we don't know if the Wardens were readily available, and he may have been to far along to be saved, look how fast Aveline's husband Weasly died, he was succumbing to the taint ridiculously fast. He may not have time to find the Wardens and let them get the joining ritual ready for him, assuming he even knew that joining could possibly save his son, and if it failed he'd have also not be able to help him at all.

Considering how desperate he was to cure Felix it's possible that at some point in time he contacted the Wardens due to their assumed expertise of the darkspawn. They probably told him there's a possibility to save Felix but that it could potentially kill him, which is the opposite of Alexius' goal.

[thats1evildude]

Because then Bioware wouldn't have a way to make people hate mages.

 

As if I needed a reason.

[AlexiaRevan]

Because then His son would have to leave with the warden , and thats what Alexius didn't want . Leaving or dying for him probably was the same . Since in the futur , his son looked like a husk and he considered that 'Saving him' .....

[Sifr]

Felix and his mother got attacked when Alexius wasn't around to them, thus he probably felt it was his fault and wanted to fix it himself. Also we don't know if the Wardens were readily available, and he may have been to far along to be saved, look how fast Aveline's husband Weasly died, he was succumbing to the taint ridiculously fast. He may not have time to find the Wardens and let them get the joining ritual ready for him, assuming he even knew that joining could possibly save his son, and if it failed he'd have also not be able to help him at all.

 

I don't know if he was too far along to be saved, since according to Dorian, Felix was supposedly tainted for a couple months before finally succumbing, so he might have been one of the lucky people who are more resistant and able to last for a while before ghoulification finally sets in?

 

We've also seen that magic can temporarily slow the progression of the taint, such as Marethari using her skills to keep Mahariel alive long enough to reach Ostagar and be joined, as well as Avernus using blood magic to prolong his life and delay his Calling for over 200 years. Even if he never used it before, Alexius is definitely desperate enough to turn to blood magic to try and slow the taint to keep Felix alive long enough, while he worked on "Operation Backstep" to undo what happened to him?

 

Becoming a Warden isn't exactly the greatest life, the Joining is extremely crude and often fatal and assuming that Alexius was in the loop enough to know that Corypheus already was planning to enslave the Wardens anyway, it's not like Felix would be safe for long? It's a case where the "cure" is sometimes far worse than the disease ever could be?

[LOLandStuff]

Because then Bioware wouldn't have a way to make people hate mages.

 

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[Nehn]

He probably thought his plan with time magic was the better solution Then Felix wouldn't even be blighted in the first place. 

 

That or it isn't common knowledge that becoming a Grey Warden slows the progression (you still eventually succumb, but only after 10-30 years). 

[Nelyafinwe]

How was Felix blighted anyway?

[MisterJB]

World of Thedas volume 2 claims tha Felix could cast the simples spells only with immense effort.
I guess the chances of him surviving the Joining were next to zero.

[Magdalena11]

World of Thedas volume 2 claims tha Felix could cast the simples spells only with immense effort.
I guess the chances of him surviving the Joining were next to zero.

I'm not sure I follow the logic.  How does his ability to cast spells affect his ability to assume corruption and survive?  Is there something I missed?

[leighzard]

World of Thedas volume 2 claims tha Felix could cast the simples spells only with immense effort.
I guess the chances of him surviving the Joining were next to zero.

Is magical ability related to the Joining in some way?  Non-mages go through the Joining all the time without being any worse for wear.  I mean, I know Mhairi had a rough go of it, but his spellcasting prowess (or lack thereof) shouldn't knock him out of the running.  The warden's might not want a bum mage, though.  Maybe they could teach him to hold a pointy stick?

[MisterJB]

It's impossible to say what males some survive while others die but all Wardens we have seen were powerful of either body or magic.
Mistress Woolsey, a accountant, served the Wardens but was not one herself.
Felix, being a mathematician, would probably have little chance.

[fhs33721]

It's impossible to say what males some survive while others die but all Wardens we have seen were powerful of either body or magic.
Mistress Woolsey, a accountant, served the Wardens but was not one herself.
Felix, being a mathematician, would probably have little chance.

But the wardens only accept people that are already accomplished fighters or talented mages anyway as recruits. So of course you will only see powerful people survive the joining.... duh.

So weather "weakness" does factor into the joining at all is simply a guess by anyone at this point.

[Magdalena11]

It's impossible to say what males some survive while others die but all Wardens we have seen were powerful of either body or magic.
Mistress Woolsey, a accountant, served the Wardens but was not one herself.
Felix, being a mathematician, would probably have little chance.

Still not getting it.  Why is the ability to survive the joining linked to ability in any other area?  In Mistress Woolsey's case, the wardens have always used the services of others.  She was an incorruptible accountant.  Why would they want to corrupt her by joining her, when she served better as she was?  I'm sure there were wardens who knew something about numbers, but first and foremost, they were wardens, and that might influence their ability to do their job.  Put another way, if the reason for your existence is to kill darkspawn and you're in charge of finances, aren't you going to want to drain the coffers to try to make it happen?  Maybe the person writing checks needs to be able to prioritize, and being too close would make it very difficult.

 

My interpretation is that joining is a bit like homeopathic medicine, in that to fight something, you have to consume a small amount of it.  Not everyone has the fortitude to handle even a tiny amount of a substance if it's toxic to their individual makeup, but since there's no way to isolate the trigger, all they can do is shoot for people who have qualities they think will help.  Being good at spells or bad at math don't seem likely to have any connection to their ability to survive.  I think some people are survivors and some aren't.  

[Reznore57]

I think Felix survived with the Blight for a couple of years , so chances are he would have survived the joining.

I don't know what spells Alexius and Dorian used on him but well it worked quite well.

 

I'm not sure why nobody thought of the wardens , even if Felix isn't a great mage , he got the best education so he would have been useful ...

Maybe they didn't want to take the risk , or maybe he didn't have time at the end .

After his father was done , Felix ran back to the Imperium to make an important speech about the Venatori and the Inquisition.

He died soon after that.

He could have gone to Weisshaupt instead .

[myahele]

I'm sure he knew about the joining and about the wardens. His slave was Fiona, a ex-grey warden mage that was able to cure the taint and become Grand Enchanter.

 

That and being a high ranking member of the Venatori, I don't think he'd want his son to be controlled by Corypheus, so it was a lose-lose situation: Either the Joining might kill him, or Corypheus will control him

[Ariella]

It's impossible to say what males some survive while others die but all Wardens we have seen were powerful of either body or magic.
Mistress Woolsey, a accountant, served the Wardens but was not one herself.
Felix, being a mathematician, would probably have little chance.

 

They didn't need Mistress Woolsey for her fighting skills, which is why she wasn't put through the Joining, just like you're not going to put a cook or a groundskeeper through it. It's not necessary. And they work FOR the Wardens. Felix wouldn't be working for, he would BE. And we don't know what allows for survival. Daveth dies, and is talented. Duncan did not, and in fact the Warden Commander recruited him in hopes the Joining would kill him.