When I talk about corruption in the NCR, I mean people like Oliver who endangers his men for Glory, or Kimball wanting to annex every territory he sees despite an upcoming Famine due to how large the NCR has become.
That, and while it's been a while, I think I remember Nepotism being a problem with the Central government of the NCR, and that people with connections were more often put in power rather than people who were capable. I could be wrong on this one though.
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General Grant was the leader of the Union Army in the second part of the civil war, between the north and the south. After defeating the Confederacy, he went on to become the 18th President of the United States of America.
This guy is the real deal. You can see it only by looking at his photos. After the civil war, he fought against the Ku Klux Klan, gave voting rights to african americans, and used the army and the support of the black community to rebuild the South. A true friend of former President Abraham Lincoln, Grant has an incredible lifestory.
Most of his life was centered around war. Because war… war never changes.
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War. War Never Changes. Ulysses S. Grant US President And US General Quotes!Jan 6, 2013General Grant was the leader of the Union Army in the second part of the civil war, between the north and the south. After defeating the Confederacy, he went on to become the 18th President of the United States of America.
This guy is the real deal. You can see it only by looking at his photos. After the civil war, he fought against the Ku Klux Klan, gave voting rights to african americans, and used the army and the support of the black community to rebuild the South. A true friend of former President Abraham Lincoln, Grant has an incredible lifestory.
Most of his life was centered around war. Because war… war never changes.
He was also a chronic alcoholic and led one of the more (publicly) corrupt presidencies in US history.
General Oliver though....
Doctor Hildern
Daniel Contreras
Alice McLafferty
The Van Graffs
Captain Curtis
The NCR are, overall, the "good guys". But they have their share of bad apples. And good intentions don't always lead to good outcomes anyway.
Doctor Hildern
Daniel Contreras
Alice McLafferty
The Van Graffs
Captain Curtis
The NCR are, overall, the "good guys". But they have their share of bad apples. And good intentions don't always lead to good outcomes anyway.
Meh.
Everyone knows that the Mojave will be best under the loving fist of it's Autocrat Mr. House.
Doctor Hildern
Daniel Contreras
Alice McLafferty
The Van Graffs
Captain Curtis
The NCR are, overall, the "good guys". But they have their share of bad apples. And good intentions don't always lead to good outcomes anyway.
i see nothing wrong with the people you mentioned
Meh.
Everyone knows that the Mojave will be best under the loving fist of it's Autocrat Mr. House.
House is, to me, the neutral option. Yeah he'd take care of the Strip. But he doesn't give a sh*t one way or the other about anything beyond it.
random thought - im currently playing Skyrim, or more specifically the embassy quest, and im wondering - who the **** let the furry in the kitchen?
no warnings, just stuff not being there, for example when i load House' penthouse all i have are a pair of floor and roof tiles and one of his sex bots, everything else is missing
The only one of those characters that would qualify as corrupt is Contreras. I forgot about him. But the quest with him involves the NCR working to root him out. Doesn't really show an organization that is content or at least complicit in it's corruption as the narrative states.
The only one of those characters that would qualify as corrupt is Contreras. I forgot about him. But the quest with him involves the NCR working to root him out. Doesn't really show an organization that is content or at least complicit in it's corruption as the narrative states.
I always thought that was the point. The only people who say how corrupt it is tends to be people who already hate the NCR and as such how corrupt it actually is falls under question.
The only one of those characters that would qualify as corrupt is Contreras. I forgot about him. But the quest with him involves the NCR working to root him out. Doesn't really show an organization that is content or at least complicit in it's corruption as the narrative states.
Hildern steals other people's research and claims it as his own, as well as send mercs to their deaths to cover his own @ss
McLafferty engages in corporate espionage practically as a hobby. The Van Graffs are violent thugs who gun people down in their own store. Both slaughter rivals as a matter of course, and have senators in Shady Sands protecting them
Curtis sold out to the Legion.
The ideals of the NCR are fine. But people are perverting the cause. Which is the point. The NCR isn't exactly living up to the ideals behind it. Even staunch NCR defenders in the game like Boone and Cass admit this.
Hildern steals other people's research and claims it as his own, as well as send mercs to their deaths to cover his own @ss
McLafferty engages in corporate espionage practically as a hobby. The Van Graffs are violent thugs who gun people down in their own store. Both slaughter rivals as a matter of course, and have senators in Shady Sands protecting them
Curtis sold out to the Legion.
The ideals of the NCR are fine. But people are perverting the cause. Which is the point. The NCR isn't exactly living up to the ideals behind it. Even staunch NCR defenders in the game like Boone and Cass admit this.
Neither McLafferty or the Van Graffs represent the NCR. They're private citizens. And Curtis didn't sell out anyone, he was a Legion agent from the get-go.
Hildern is a crappy boss, but there's nothing he does that would get him in legal trouble for corruption in a modern court.
Hildern steals other people's research and claims it as his own, as well as send mercs to their deaths to cover his own @ss
McLafferty engages in corporate espionage practically as a hobby. The Van Graffs are violent thugs who gun people down in their own store. Both slaughter rivals as a matter of course, and have senators in Shady Sands protecting them
Curtis sold out to the Legion.
The ideals of the NCR are fine. But people are perverting the cause. Which is the point. The NCR isn't exactly living up to the ideals behind it. Even staunch NCR defenders in the game like Boone and Cass admit this.
All of that is true, the NCR is far from perfect.
The thing is, compared to most other governments in the series, it's still much better. We can make a case that House is an able administrator that doesn't want to restrict civil liberties overmuch, but he is uuterly ruthless against anyone that doesn,t take his side (see how he attacks the Kings in most ending scenarios). I also do not buy for a second that he's as good as he claims, and that he alone should be entrusted with the future of New Vegas.
Beyond House, what is there? The Legion, a bunch of cartoonishly evil, murderous rapists? The Boomers, jingoists who literally blow up everyone else? The Brotherhood, fanatics who kill and steal in the name of their Code? The Khans, glorified thugs and drug dealers? To say nothing of the Enclave which tried to exterminate almost the entire planet.
Maybe an intelligent Courier would count too, as ruler of an independant Vegas. But beyond that, flawed as NCR is, you have precious few viable options.
All of that is true, the NCR is far from perfect.
The thing is, compared to most other governments in the series, it's still much better. We can make a case that House is an able administrator that doesn't want to restrict civil liberties overmuch, but he is uuterly ruthless against anyone that doesn,t take his side (see how he attacks the Kings in most ending scenarios). I also do not buy for a second that he's as good as he claims, and that he alone should be entrusted with the future of New Vegas.
Beyond House, what is there? The Legion, a bunch of cartoonishly evil, murderous rapists? The Boomers, jingoists who literally blow up everyone else? The Brotherhood, fanatics who kill and steal in the name of their Code? The Khans, glorified thugs and drug dealers? To say nothing of the Enclave which tried to exterminate almost the entire planet.
Maybe an intelligent Courier would count too, as ruler of an independant Vegas. But beyond that, flawed as NCR is, you have precious few viable options.
Elijah.
Elijah.
I heard, but can't confirm, that he might be rotting away in a vault somewhere. 
All of that is true, the NCR is far from perfect.
The thing is, compared to most other governments in the series, it's still much better. We can make a case that House is an able administrator that doesn't want to restrict civil liberties overmuch, but he is uuterly ruthless against anyone that doesn,t take his side (see how he attacks the Kings in most ending scenarios). I also do not buy for a second that he's as good as he claims, and that he alone should be entrusted with the future of New Vegas.
Beyond House, what is there? The Legion, a bunch of cartoonishly evil, murderous rapists? The Boomers, jingoists who literally blow up everyone else? The Brotherhood, fanatics who kill and steal in the name of their Code? The Khans, glorified thugs and drug dealers? To say nothing of the Enclave which tried to exterminate almost the entire planet.
Maybe an intelligent Courier would count too, as ruler of an independant Vegas. But beyond that, flawed as NCR is, you have precious few viable options.
Sure the NCR is arguably the best option given all the choices. And no House definitely isn't all that, for all his ending is probably the best for the Courier personally.
And actually, I have hard time imagining an independent Vegas staying independent long-term. The Securitrons won' t last forever. And without House there's really no way to replace them. And as you say, what else is there? The Boomers are isolationist and rather overspecialized (though interestingly, they seem to do all right in pretty much every ending you don't wipe them out). The Kings likely don't have the numbers or equipment to resist a determined attack, even with the Three Families backing them. The Khans aren't exactly reliable. The Brotherhood won't care.
So long-term benefit for the area likely falls with the NCR. Unless these disparate groups can actually come together and cooperate for the common good, that is.
Neither McLafferty or the Van Graffs represent the NCR. They're private citizens. And Curtis didn't sell out anyone, he was a Legion agent from the get-go.
Hildern is a crappy boss, but there's nothing he does that would get him in legal trouble for corruption in a modern court.
The NCR depends heavily on the Van Graffs and the Crimson Caravan. And that dependancy gets heavily leveraged by them.
You are right that Curtis was a sleeper agent.
Hildern may not have done anything technically illegal, but he's unethical as hell. And his callous disregard for others has gotten people killed.
Guys, I don't want this game anymore, I'm scared.
Everybody thinks the baby is scary for some reason.
Everybody thinks the baby is scary for some reason.
After ME3 can you blame 'em?
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