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[Fast Jimmy]

Yep, that makes sense. An robot would never die of radiation poisoning. So, that should be a given that the protagonist is indeed human.

Well... Cogsworth offers us food and our character'a reaction is "Food...? Okay, whatever..." like food was the last thing to cross their mind. Like they didn't even really need it... <speculationz!>

[Gravisanimi]

Plus, let's not forget the term synthetic human that's been thrown around in FO3 by Zimmer. Even if the character is technically an adroid, it has a large quantity of organic parts to it, most obviously skin and some sort of circulatory system reminiscent of human blood circulation. All of which would be susceptible to radiation.

I haven't played F3 in a long time, so yes I did forget thank you for telling me.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Well... Fog worth offers us food and our character'a reaction is "Food...? Okay, whatever..." like food was the last thing to cross their mind. Like they didn't even really need it... <speculationz!>

considering that he was just told that he was out for 200 years i doubt he even thought about food

 

EDIT: also, im pretty sure i've gone trough the previous games without ever eating

[Jaison1986]

considering that he was just told that he was out for 200 years i doubt he even thought about food

 

EDIT: also, im pretty sure i've gone trough the previous games without ever eating

 

Unless you play NV on hardcore mode. No food would kill you eventually.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Unless you play NV on hardcore mode. No food would kill you eventually.

unless you only eat vegetables, we all know they arent real food

[In Exile]

Yep, that makes sense. An robot would never die of radiation poisoning. So, that should be a given that the protagonist is indeed human.

Radiation may well damage the "fine electronic components" necessary for a sophisticated android like you to work. The game can handwave that one away pretty easily. It's not as if you actually experience radiation poisoning in a realistic way.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Radiation may well damage the "fine electronic components" necessary for a sophisticated android like you to work. The game can handwave that one away pretty easily. It's not as if you actually experience radiation poisoning in a realistic way.

what if you do?

[Jaison1986]

Well, IDK, finding out you're an artificial human would be a little too much for me. It's just too bleak. Like in the ME3 endings. It feels everything you did, everything you believed in was for nothing. It's just a cruel lie.

[Fast Jimmy]

But

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Would an android even have genitals? Or would they be kinda like a Ken doll.

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Well, I have to assume that if you can be an android and not know you're an android, chances are you won't be abnormally smooth or have any big "oh, hey, that can't be normal" type of things. I'm assuming you've got normal plumbing downstairs.

[Fast Jimmy]

Well, IDK, finding out you're an artificial human would be a little too much for me. It's just too bleak. Like in the ME3 endings. It feels everything you did, everything you believed in was for nothing. It's just a cruel lie.

In a roundabout way, it's

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the entire premise of the original Bioshock, minus being an actual robot.

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[Fast Jimmy]

I still think that's a twist beyond Bestheda.I don't think they're quite willing or able to cover the same ground as Philip K. Dick.

Maybe so, but it's the only thing letting me stomach this forced background/protagonist for the time being. Maybe I'll just head canon it the whole way through the game.

[Akrabra]

More Fallout at Microsoft press conference!

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Laser musquet? okay Todd now you've lost it

[Akrabra]

Mods on console! FOR FREE!

[General TSAR]

Power Armor is gonna function like POWER ARMOR!

[Barbarossa2010]

While I don't doubt playing on the elements of Minecraft and it's ilk will be a big part of the justification and marketing, I think it's the Fallout 3 settlement mods that were more of a direct inspiration. New Vegas did a bit of that with weapon customisation and the like. It does seem like an ancillary feature for the sandbox experience though, rather than something with story or quest significance. The focus on words like optional give it away. But people enjoy that. Hearthfire was very popular, for example.

I play a lot of mods from Nexus, and you are right. There are more features drawn from inspiration in the mod community than anything else. It's sort of a wink-nudge-nudge thing. Bethesda has a virtual team of free ideas floating around out there in the mod community that they are free to tap into and use as they see fit. It is its own dynamic and relationship. It's one of the many things that make FO an ES special; and it really broadens the fan base. There is nothing else like it at the AAA-game development level. Nexus membership and downloads have soared since Skyrim.

I noticed several things that seem to have been drawn from that free well of ideas...especially weapon customization, which we got far too little of imho.

He also said that the game is not reliant on the village building mechanic, and that you can bypass it without really missing anything, and feel free to play the game without using it. Now, to me, that is what makes Bethesda...Bethesda, and it is something that is amazing in modern gaming. Most developers spend their time trying to restrict and control players, Bethesda adds big, big content, that many players won't even experience because they don't want to bother with ancillaries.

[Broganisity]

Spoiler

Well, I have to assume that if you can be an android and not know you're an android, chances are you won't be abnormally smooth or have any big "oh, hey, that can't be normal" type of things. I'm assuming you've got normal plumbing downstairs.

No need to hide it in spoilers in my opinion, but:

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The Androids created by The Institute are meant to fully simulate humanity as realistically as possible. They simulate breathing and all the problems that come with not doing such (in theory if they thought they were human and not an android, they may shutdown if in a situation a human would suffocate in. They could probably be revitalized after such an event.), they can sleep (and their inner workings slow down to accommodate this, simulating it all further.) can even consume and digest food realistically and feature artificial, blood and skin. Their bone structure is obviously mechanical but what lies above it is, while still synthetic, incredibly life-like. Naturally they could not reproduce, but would have all the simulated. . .fluids, to make one believe they are capable of such.

 

Their memories can be altered, hidden, removed entirely or just flat-out erased and reverted back to their factory settings. New ones can be slotted in or taken out if one knows how to work on them, and their outward appearances can be sculpted by a skilled surgeon just as they would a normal human being.

 

 

 

 It's sort of a wink-nudge-nudge thing. Bethesda has a virtual team of free ideas floating around out there in the mod community that they are free to tap into and use as they see fit. It is its own dynamic and relationship.

 

Two-Bears-High-Fiving. Case closed on the 'Bethesda inspired by community' front. (Yes it was Obsidian who worked on NV, I know but STILL!)

[In Exile]

Well, IDK, finding out you're an artificial human would be a little too much for me. It's just too bleak. Like in the ME3 endings. It feels everything you did, everything you believed in was for nothing. It's just a cruel lie.

I just like stories that explore what makes us human. I don't believe in the "right stuff" type arguments, which are predicated on the idea that what makes us human is what were made of materielly.

ME3 didn't really deal with that issue properly.

[Akrabra]

Was good to see that Bethesda didn't promise any dlc deals with Microsoft. Just the mod thing and then Todd walked off stage. Good boy.

[The Love Runner]

BRING BACK THREE DOG, TOO, BETHESDA!!!!

[Broganisity]

Mods confirmed - for Xbox One too!

 

Welcome to the good life, my console brothers! We are happy to have you alongside us!

 

BRING BACK THREE DOG, TOO, BETHESDA!!!!

 

Pre-recorded (lore-wise) messages and radio signal on account of him possibly being dead in Fallout 3.

[llandwynwyn]

Now it's explained why Beth want to make us paid for mods.

[Broganisity]

Now it's explained why Beth want to make us paid for mods.

 I'm not sure I follow. Mods are free on Xbox One as well as PC, as always.

Pickin' at an already healed wound only leads to an ugly lookin' scar on one's face.

[llandwynwyn]

 I'm not sure I follow. Mods are free on Xbox One as well as PC, as always.

Pickin' at an already healed wound only leads to an ugly lookin' scar on one's face.

 

They are free because we fought for them to be so. I guess that was too much even for steambros

[Barbarossa2010]

How does it work? Do you use a thumb drive? Will certain mods be posted in the MS Store? DL direct from BethSoft? Or is the tool embedded in the game. I mean, we already know a certain part of that is true with the whole "City Builder" thing. But real modding will take an actual toolkit, unless I'm ignorant of some new mechanic.

As a GECK user, I'm entirely confused...which granted, isn't all that difficult in its own right. Perhaps I need to shift my own mental paradigm to a new sort of modding?

Something else entirely?