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#1501
Degenerate Rakia Time

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Soooooooooo? Why can't they scale it up to doors?

because the engine cant handle it? also how would they handle blowing up loading doors?



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because the engine cant handle it? also how would they handle blowing up loading doors?

It's not that hard dude. If the FWE and PE team could could do it and not harm doors that lead to cells, Bethesda can.



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FWE and PE did and even added a menu to breach them, and it just increased the gameplay and made it complex. I would also love to see Bethesda have a complex healing and health system that FWE implanted but I doubt that since mainstream gamers would hate it.

Have a hardcore mode with the more complex healing and health system. Problem solved. They can turn it on and off. 



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because the engine cant handle it? also how would they handle blowing up loading doors?

 

They don't need to be 100% realistic you know. I've played plenty of games that let you destroy doors. Not one has caused the entire building to collapse. 


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by destructible environments i mean buildings, trees, walls and so on, yes you could blow up cars but at the same time you couldnt even scratch a picket fence

I want a suit of armor made of whatever thosedoors are made of.


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Do NOT remind me of that time when a car exploded! 

Important safety tip:  grenades in a 200 year old traffic jam are a bad idea  :D



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Ok i need some help with the Fallout Lore. So Owyn Lyons was sent out from California to Scour the DC ruins, investigate the Super Mutant threat and to find an airship that crashed near Chicago. What happened to the Airship? Seeing as they would have to pass Chicago on their way to DC. Also what happened to the BoS in California? 



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BoS in the west is still licking its wounds from the war with the NCR last time I checked.



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by destructible environments i mean buildings, trees, walls and so on, yes you could blow up cars but at the same time you couldnt even scratch a picket fence

 

I remember watching the power armor gameplay and the protagonist was mowing down raiders with an minigun, yet apart from bullet holes, there was no environmental damage at all.



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BoS in the east is still licking its wounds from the war with the NCR last time I checked.

Dont you mean the west?



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Dont you mean the west?

Yup, made a mistake.



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I did some reading on the Fallout Wikia, got answers to most of it. I didn't know there was a BoS Texas division. They have the most corny sigil ever, i love it. 



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Hopefully they added the ablity to breach locked doors and such, they have already added alot of content to FO4 from the FWE and PE mods.

around 300 years and no one in the USA found a crowbar.



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Soooooooooo? Why can't they scale it up to doors?

Because that would make the lock picking skill pointless.

#1515
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Because that would make the lock picking skill pointless.

 

No it wouldn't. Knock it down and you will alert everyone in the vicinity. A stealth player would lock pick, a non stealth will smash the thing.



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make it a high strength thing with the need for a sledgehammer.



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No it wouldn't. Knock it down and you will alert everyone in the vicinity. A stealth player would lock pick, a non stealth will smash the thing.

Also steel containers, and the steel mechanical doors would be difficult to break open, leaving that for a lockpick.



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No it wouldn't. Knock it down and you will alert everyone in the vicinity. A stealth player would lock pick, a non stealth will smash the thing.

Maybe, I tend not to like stuff like this because it always reminds me of those people in DA or other RPGs that always complain "why can't my fighter/warrior lock pick? I feel like they are trying to take away the relevance of stealth characters, but your right in a open class building game like FO it should be an option.

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Lockpicking would also would work for safes and metal doors. But logically speaking, I don't see why we can't just smash down a wooden door.



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Liamv2

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Also steel containers, and the steel mechanical doors would be difficult to break open, leaving that for a lockpick.

 

Yep. And breaking containers should destroy or damage items. Like in Kotor for example.



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Lockpicking would also would work for safes and metal doors. But logically speaking, I don't see why we can't just smash down a wooden door.

 

I recall you being able to do that in ES Arena and Daggerfall. I found it silly for my overleveled self to waste my time tinkering with some small chest in Skyrim and Fallout 3.



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Ok i need some help with the Fallout Lore. So Owyn Lyons was sent out from California to Scour the DC ruins, investigate the Super Mutant threat and to find an airship that crashed near Chicago. What happened to the Airship? Seeing as they would have to pass Chicago on their way to DC. Also what happened to the BoS in California?


I would presume Fallout 4 will explain what "actually" happened to the Midwestern Brotherhood, since it's semi-canon now (in the sense that the division did depart, but almost everything else is up in the air at this point in terms of what "really happened").

Given that New Vegas briefly touched on the NCR-BOS War that was originally planned for Van Buren, Obsidian could address it further in a new game; at this point, Bethesda seems to be focused on the west coast.

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I would presume Fallout 4 will explain what "actually" happened to the Midwestern Brotherhood, since it's semi-canon now (in the sense that the division did depart, but almost everything else is up in the air at this point in terms of what "really happened").

Given that New Vegas briefly touched on the NCR-BOS War that was originally planned for Van Buren, Obsidian could address it further in a new game; at this point, Bethesda seems to be focused on the west coast.

 

West Coast? Don't you mean East?



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I doubt the Enclave are going to be in Fallout 4...

 

If somehow they are, I want to be able to side with them. 


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West Coast? Don't you mean East?


Thanks for catching that. Yes, I did. I know some at Obsidian said they could deal with the west coast while Bethesda focused on the east coast, so that might be the case for the Fallout franchise.