In light of Capone666's original interview being locked, I thought I would try making a new one where people could discuss the less controversial topics. Here is the original thread.
http://forum.bioware...patrick-weekes/
Let's try discussing the other parts of the interview.
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So it seems the Architect was supposed to be the Nightmare, basically. He was supposed to be the one sending out the false calling. I'm glad we got what we got though.
Is it possible that the Architect is still alive? Based on the game events, I would say he can be killed by the Hero in Awakening. There is nothing to suggest that he has powers like Corypheus had. But the fact that he can either live or die means he'll probably either be excluded from future titles, or brought back via the resurrection power for storyline purposes.
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Haha. Go ahead. This isn't the same discussion. I'm looking for talk about the Architect, Bull, Solas and Cole. Am I angry? Yeah. But this isn't that discussion. If that was the discussion they wanted closed, they'd have locked the character threads.
So it seems the Architect was supposed to be the Nightmare, basically. He was supposed to be the one sending out the false calling. I'm glad we got what we got though.
Is it possible that the Architect is still alive? Based on the game events, I would say he can be killed by the Hero in Awakening. There is nothing to suggest that he has powers like Corypheus had. But the fact that he can either live or die means he'll probably either be excluded from future titles, or brought back via the resurrection power for storyline purposes.
I would say that all of the Seven most likely have similar powers, and the fact that they wanted to bring him back for a main mission suggests they didn't care if he could die. Hence, body-hopping. Honestly, I think they intended to bring him back since Awakening.
So it seems the Architect was supposed to be the Nightmare, basically. He was supposed to be the one sending out the false calling. I'm glad we got what we got though.
Is it possible that the Architect is still alive? Based on the game events, I would say he can be killed by the Hero in Awakening. There is nothing to suggest that he has powers like Corypheus had. But the fact that he can either live or die means he'll probably either be excluded from future titles, or brought back via the resurrection power for storyline purposes.
Is that what the Interview said?
Haha. Go ahead. This isn't the same discussion. I'm looking for talk about the Architect, Bull, Solas and Cole. Am I angry? Yeah. But this isn't that discussion. If that was the discussion they wanted closed, they'd have locked the character threads.
Then you really should edit that top post .
Is that what the Interview said?
I decided to edit the OP and take out me being angry. Anyway:
As I remember it the interview said that the Architect had been considered for return in Abyss but he was cut. And good riddens to him. Corypheus, I'm willing to forgive because of the tag scene. Architect, not so much.
Leave him dead, and honor the choice the player made.
I find this a curious opinion. I actually think they always intended to bring him back. If I'm right, that means that they never planned to have your choice matter in the sense that you wouldn't see him again, it would matter in the sense that he would react to you differently. If he was never dead, and was never supposed to be, then the choice tricked you, and it's not a question of honouring us.
As I remember it the interview said that the Architect had been considered for return in Abyss but he was cut. And good riddens to him. Corypheus, I'm willing to forgive because of the tag scene. Architect, not so much.
Leave him dead, and honor the choice the player made.
They may have cut him for the mission, but I honestly doubt he's dead
I would actually be fine with the Architect coming back now that we know he's probably one of the original Magisters, and therefore could plausibly have the same powers as Corypheus. But then, Leliana coming back doesn't bother me either. (Given that she can only be 'killed' in the room with magical healing ashes ...)
I would actually be fine with the Architect coming back now that we know he's probably one of the original Magisters, and therefore could plausibly have the same powers as Corypheus. But then, Leliana coming back doesn't bother me either. (Given that she can only be 'killed' in the room with magical healing ashes ...)
Doubt those ashes can put her head back on. They're for healing, not resurrection.
I would actually be fine with the Architect coming back now that we know he's probably one of the original Magisters, and therefore could plausibly have the same powers as Corypheus. But then, Leliana coming back doesn't bother me either. (Given that she can only be 'killed' in the room with magical healing ashes ...)
I thought she could attack you back at camp as well if you didn't take her with you when you dropped blood in the ashes. I may be wrong though.
I would actually be fine with the Architect coming back now that we know he's probably one of the original Magisters, and therefore could plausibly have the same powers as Corypheus. But then, Leliana coming back doesn't bother me either. (Given that she can only be 'killed' in the room with magical healing ashes ...)
Yet, the Ashes are corrupted, and since you grab a pinch for the Arl first before corrupting them, it is implied the Ahses lose their healing abilities. It could have been the Lyrium, but really, you'd think the Dwarves or Tranquil would have discovered some healing properties of Lyrium, and elfroot is the go to healing substance, not lyrium. Unfortunately, even if Leliana's resurrection could make sense, it feels a little "hand of God" style writing, even if it is supposed to possibly be divine intervention, simply because there is little to no evidence to establish a non-divine hypothesis for her healing. If it is the Ashes: how do they work once corrupted? If it is the Lyrium: how have we absolutely no other examples of Lyrium healing?
Anyway. I'm kind of bummed the Architect was not in Here Lies the Abyss, now. I felt that that was one of the best segments for lore developments concerning Corypheus and the Magisters and the Black City, but it was focused on some weird Demon thing and explaining that whole aspect of Corypheus' plan. It became a bit of a diversion that focused on Nightmare as opposed to further developing Cory. If it was the Architect, I feel like more revelations applicable to he and Cory would have been explored, and the weight of Cory in the game by the end might have been more intimidating or at least satisfying.
Well death blow animations aren't canon
Apparently. This reminds me of being in the fade in DA:O and having a conversation with a headless Fake!Flemeth.
I never got the sense that he was more than just an obstacle whereas the Mother was the real threat. The Architect's story was pretty completed in Calling. Plus there was NO Chekov's gun, no indicator.I decided to edit the OP and take out me being angry. Anyway:
I find this a curious opinion. I actually think they always intended to bring him back. If I'm right, that means that they never planned to have your choice matter in the sense that you wouldn't see him again, it would matter in the sense that he would react to you differently. If he was never dead, and was never supposed to be, then the choice tricked you, and it's not a question of honouring us.
I don't really think the Architect was gonna replace the Nightmare Demon, I don't even think he would ally with Cory because he doesn't really care about the things he did
Apparently. This reminds me of being in the fade in DA:O and having a conversation with a headless Fake!Flemeth.
You could also cut off Zev's head and then it appears back on when the cutscene happens lol
Flemeth's reappearance after possibly dying in DAO (beheaded by warden) was actually explained, thank goodness, the necklace she sent with Hawke pretty much allowed her to resurrect. Cory's reappearance was explained after Hawke kills him. I think they could half-ass explain away the return of the Architect if they choose to try bringing him back again but personally I'd prefer to meet the remaining ancient magisters instead of revisiting ones already met. Or better yet cross paths with an awakened, but untainted, Old God or a full strength, and very angry, proper ancient elven god, but not via a host like Flemeth.
I never got the sense that he was more than just an obstacle whereas the Mother was the real threat. The Architect's story was pretty completed in Calling. Plus there was NO Chekov's gun, no indicator.
Then there is the fact of having yet another of the seven pop up just turns them into monster of the week. Corypheus should stay unique. Let the rest rot.
It's true that there is no obvious sign that he's still alive. There was no sign that Leliana was either *shrug* I disagree that they would become the monster of the week though. Corypheus is a pure bad guy, sure, but the Architect wasn't. You could help each other with no subsequent betrayal.
I would find it a lot more bizarre if we didn't find more of the magisters than if we did. They're insanely powerful. They'll turn up. That doesn't mean they have to be handled the same as Corypheus though.
It's true that there is no obvious sign that he's still alive. There was no sign that Leliana was either *shrug* I disagree that they would becomes the monster of the week though. Corypheus is a pure bad guy, sure, but the Architect wasn't. You could help each other with no subsequent betrayal.
I would find it a lot more bizarre if we didn't find more of the magisters than if we did. They're insanely powerful. They'll turn up. That doesn't mean they have to be handled the same as Corypheus though.
Wasn't it said somewhere that some of them are dead?
It's true that there is no obvious sign that he's still alive. There was no sign that Leliana was either *shrug* I disagree that they would becomes the monster of the week though. Corypheus is a pure bad guy, sure, but the Architect wasn't. You could help each other with no subsequent betrayal.
I would find it a lot more bizarre if we didn't find more of the magisters than if we did. They're insanely powerful. They'll turn up. That doesn't mean they have to be handled the same as Corypheus though.
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