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[dreamgazer]

 
 
When Bioware was polling the fans on a default Fem Shep concept for ME3, I was hoping the one at the bottom left would win.

Reminds me a good bit of Zoe Kravitz, whom I wouldn't mind seeing as the face of a female protagonist whatsoever.

[Andrew Lucas]

I voted for the blonde one, yep, my personal preference, gimme me some minutes so that I can hide myself.

On topic, I don't the issue in making two versions of the same trailer for a male and female protagonist, worked for ME3, bring back the switchable covers and there you go.

No point in only focusing on the female one, it's about equality, not superiority.

[MissMayhem96]

I wasn't even around ME when they held that contest, I'm sure I would have picked either the bottom left or the top right, I really like the long dark hair pulled up like that.

[DuskWanderer]

As I understood that contest, it was for hair style and color. I remember a huge stink about FemShep being called "Barbie" 

[Vazgen]

I like the bottom right with the top left hairstyle.

[Xerxes52]

Well, if they do have a default male or female face, who would you want it based on?

 

My choices:

 

Males: Tom Hardy or Oscar Isaac.

 

Females: Gal Gadot or Alona Tal.

[TheJester000]

Well, if they do have a default male or female face, who would you want it based on?

 

No known actors/actresses, it would ruin the immersion.

[Majestic Jazz]

My question is why did people vote for the blonde Shepard and then complain....that she was blonde?

[Xerxes52]

My question is why did people vote for the blonde Shepard and then complain....that she was blonde?

 

I think (not sure, been years) that people wanted that specific hair style and skin complexion, but with red hair and green eyes.

[Han Shot First]

My question is why did people vote for the blonde Shepard and then complain....that she was blonde?

 

They were different people.

 

If I remember correctly the original poll was posted to facebook, and a blonde concept won in a landslide. People who preferred other concepts, particularly the red-haired one, started complaining on the BSN that the blonde concept was boring or cookie-cutter or a barbie, ect., ect and griped that the people voting on facebook were all a bunch of filthy casuals and not true Mass Effect fans. It was ridiculous really, but there ended up being a second poll and the second time around the red-haired concept won.

[KaiserShep]

The whole concept of a beauty contest was wrong in the first place.

 

Lol, I agree. BioWare should have just translated the design they've been using since the beginning to the newest game and just let us deal with it or the CC.

[DuskWanderer]

Lol, I agree. BioWare should have just translated the design they've been using since the beginning to the newest game and just let us deal with it or the CC.

 

Given that the conversations went to the topics that it did, even having a creator engine makes people unhappy. 

[aoibhealfae]

I don't really get the whole point of the beauty popularity contest on a character that a lot of people customize from the start. Instead of that, why didn't they just open a vote for an actual face model and then make a poll on additional hair choices that will be available for CC. 

[DuskWanderer]

I don't really get the whole point of the beauty popularity contest on a character that a lot of people customize from the start. Instead of that, why didn't they just open a vote for an actual face model and then make a poll on additional hair choices that will be available for CC. 

Hindsight would be my guess. Maybe they thought what they did would be a good idea.

[CrazyCatDude]

I think, for the default Female, they should go find a female marine, scan her face, and have the default female have a buzz cut.  But that's just me.

[CrazyCatDude]

Which country? The usmc isn't the best place to look (for now). I doubt you could hire the ones who have passed infantry training anyways. While none pass IOC. Nor are any allowed to serve in the infantry, even if they do pass.

 

Basically, it's still a fantasy. So it wouldn't make much different than getting an actor or model. 

 

I'd be perfectly fine with them using a female US Marine.

[ZoliCs]

This article at Gameinformer might be interesting to a few people here 

 

It was hella interesting:

 

 

[von uber]

The problem is that it would never have crossed their minds in a million years to have a male beauty contest.

[aoibhealfae]

Technically, ShepardLoo is a genuine male supermodel. Hehe

[Altair_ShepardN7]

It was hella interesting:

 

 

It works for me. 

Try this Google link instead. 

[Han Shot First]

The problem is that it would never have crossed their minds in a million years to have a male beauty contest.

 

They did use a male models for default male Shep's appearance however, as well as Kaiden and Jacob.

[Kurt M.]

I would too. I just don't see what's so special about it. It's not like they're real versions of "Femshep" or _insert new protagonist_. You're getting the same thing you'd be getting from many women. Female marines are supplies/logistics/admin/etc ("in the rear with the gear").

 

 

I mean, if this is an attempt at realism, then might as well stay from the Americans. Better go to the Kurdish Peshmerga.

 

I don't understand that way of treating women in the army. But again, I guess the military is kinda the last place on Earth to look for empathy....anyway, if it was for me, I'd remove the lower physical requirements for women both to enter and in the training (if there are any...in my country there are for both), and 100% equiparate them with the male ones.

 

Feminists might complain that it'd be unfair because women are generally weaker than men (YES, they are, it's a natural matter and denying it won't change a thing about that fact), but to that I reply that war is unfair by itself, and that every weak point you show or give to the enemy is something they can exploit. Having that in mind it's normal for anyone not wanting something that might jeopardize their mission, or their lives even. Which leads me to my next point....

 

...."Men-ists?" might complain exactly that: that they don't need a burden in their team/squad/whatever. But to that I ask them that how exactly any woman who passes exactly the same tests as men would be a weak point. They'd be at least no more a "weak point" than any other men out there.

 

The military shouldn't be about having 'diddies' and 'cutties' in your lower parts, it should be about performance. And I don't care if with those changes there would be a 1000:1 women ratio in the top units of the military: those "1" have the same right to fight and to have a soldier's spirit as any man. And for those ones outside of that percentage I say....well, suck it. You can cry like a little girl (literally), aim for a unit with lower requirements, or build yourself some muscle (I've seen some ox-like women in my (younger) gym times, believe me) and try again.

 

It might not be a perfect way, but at least the military would leave their doors open for combat units to those ones who can reach it, instead of just closing them because of how you were born. In essence, it'd be up to you.

[CrazyCatDude]

I don't understand that way of treating women in the army. But again, I guess the military is kinda the last place on Earth to look for empathy....anyway, if it was for me, I'd remove the lower physical requirements for women both to enter and in the training (if there are any...in my country there are for both), and 100% equiparate them with the male ones.

 

Feminists might complain that it'd be unfair because women are generally weaker than men (YES, they are, it's a natural matter and denying it won't change a thing about that fact), but to that I reply that war is unfair by itself, and that every weak point you show or give to the enemy is something they can exploit. Having that in mind it's normal for anyone not wanting something that might jeopardize their mission, or their lives even. Which leads me to my next point....

 

...."Men-ists?" might complain exactly that: that they don't need a burden in their team/squad/whatever. But to that I ask them that how exactly any woman who passes exactly the same tests as men would be a weak point. They'd be at least no more a "weak point" than any other men out there.

 

The military shouldn't be about having 'diddies' and 'cutties' in your lower parts, it should be about performance. And I don't care if with those changes there would be a 1000:1 women ratio in the top units of the military: those "1" have the same right to fight and to have a soldier's spirit as any man. And for those ones outside of that percentage I say....well, suck it. You can cry like a little girl (literally), aim for a unit with lower requirements, or build yourself some muscle (I've seen some ox-like women in my (younger) gym times, believe me) and try again.

 

It might not be a perfect way, but at least the military would leave their doors open for combat units to those ones who can reach it, instead of just closing them because of how you were born. In essence, it'd be up to you.

 

Yeah, you know, now that they've actually started integrating women into combat units, they're discovering a lot of the "women can't do X" stuff is so much BS.  There *are* differences.  They're discovering them.  Things like women need to load their packs differently, and situate the straps differently, because if they do it the same way as men, they'll end up with stress fractures in places you really don't want stress fractures (pelvis and hips are not good places for them).  But as those things settle out, the women are doing just fine.  Which makes sense really, given that women have been actively fighting for the last 14 years in Iraq and Afghanistan without much issue.  (Sure, they aren't *assigned* to combat units, but if you think they aren't seeing combat, you haven't been paying attention.)  Since they've been doing the job anyway, it's about time we started giving them the proper training and gear for it.