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Heh, it would most likely play out like this
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Didn't they do something similar in Origins? In the brothel, one of the surprises was a male dwarf in female clothing or something like that. There were also several women with male voices.
Funny, but no not good enough! I just hope they make all asari futanari. Huge tentacle futanari. This of course means Liara was a futanari too. 
All they got to do is:
You do know using the term SJW just diminishes your argument (such as it is)?
Am I a 'sjw' because I want a better future for my daughter? If so then your statement is patently absurd and idiotic.
Except, statistically speaking, something like 48% of gamers are female, so your argument kind of falls flat. Not sure *why* the "largely male audience" myth is so persistent, given how many times it's debunked.
Except, statistically speaking, something like 48% of gamers are female, so your argument kind of falls flat. Not sure *why* the "largely male audience" myth is so persistent, given how many times it's debunked.
The one that takes in consideration mobile games?
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E3 is a boys club. Always has been, always will be.
In the words of King..."I Have a Dream"...
Edit: I also have money!
E3 is a boys club. Always has been, always will be.
E3 is a marketing event. If women suddenly became the largest group of console gamers then E3 would shift to suit the tastes they express. The video game industry is an industry. They do what they do to make money.
I'd prefer they do both. We got enough of dudeshep and nothing on female Shepard to last a lifetime.
Either slow down the overdone dude marketing or show both, like DAI did. Gameplays, etc.
Edit, if they bothered enough to market the other gender too, then some interest would rise as well. If they're so "scared" to lose customers then they could just show male but also show a little of female. Won't hurt and I don't understand why they don't do it. They don't even try.
Oh and BioWare could you throw us FemProtagonist players a bone and base her on an attractive model like you did with Vanderloo.
Yes. Especially this. It was freaking annoying that my female protagonist had a custom face. At least in ME3 they gave her something that differentiates her from the custom sheps, which is something.
Not to sound sexist but E3 is like Fashion Week for guys. Sure guys also buy clothes, but we aren't exactly their bread and butter.
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Yes. Especially this. It was freaking annoying that my female protagonist had a custom face. At least in ME3 they gave her something that differentiates her from the custom sheps, which is something.
Vanderloo's ex-wife has an exotic look. She is Spanish model Esther Cañadas. She looks like a mixture of many races, but is blonde and we are in desperate need of blondes.
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Should've picked a different industry to compare to make your point, because that's like a parsec from the truth.
True. Very, very true! 
Guys also tend to be some of the best designers of men and women's clothing.
Another option.
marketing like this:
This. I don't get why it's so hard to do it.
They could announce at E3 that you can play both genders if you can, for the newcomers. Good video btw, the face of fShepard from ME1 and 2 still bugs me so hard.
How about they ditch the human thing altogether and just slap a krogan wrestling a varren on the cover? That would certainly catch my eye more than some generic human with gun walking away from an explosion.
Another option.
marketing like this:
I agree, though it may look a little confusing I mean we know who these characters are from playing the games but for a completely new game? Might look somewhat weird.
I agree, though it may look a little confusing
Why it would be confusing? They see them with same clothes, it will be announced that ME4 has gender options. There are plenty of ways to show that they are the same character with different gender.
Why it would be confusing? They see them with same clothes, it will be announced that ME4 has gender options. There are plenty of ways to show that they are the same character with different gender.
That's not what the video shows. It shows Femshep and Broshep as different characters. Note the difference between scenes of "empathetic peacekeeper" and "cold-blooded assassin".
If I saw this video without knowing any of the characters in it, I'd think that female and male protagonists have access to different content.
That's not what the video shows. It shows Femshep and Broshep as different characters. Note the difference between scenes of "empathetic peacekeeper" and "cold-blooded assassin".
If I saw this video without knowing any of the characters in it, I'd think that female and male protagonists have access to different content.
Then maybe they could explain it further? Or do a simple trailer that shows both, without all this "empathetic peacekeeper" and "cold blooded assassin".
Guest_postlapsarian2_*
That's not what the video shows. It shows Femshep and Broshep as different characters. Note the difference between scenes of "empathetic peacekeeper" and "cold-blooded assassin".
If I saw this video without knowing any of the characters in it, I'd think that female and male protagonists have access to different content.
That part didn't confuse me, but I didn't like it. They show Sheploo and JaneShep fading in and out during the suicide mission final shuttle jump. If it showed paragon Sheploo and JaneShep fading in and out during the "empathetic" part and red-eyed, flaming scars renegade Sheploo and JaneShep fading in and out during the "cold-blooded assassin" scene it'd be more understandable, to me at least.
Then maybe they could explain it further? Or do a simple trailer that shows both, without all this "empathetic peacekeeper" and "cold blooded assassin".
Maybe. Personally, I'd prefer a single protagonist of an unidentified sex in the video (unisex armor, face covered by a helmet)
That part didn't confuse me, but I didn't like it. They show Sheploo and JaneShep fading in and out during the suicide mission final shuttle jump. If it showed paragon Sheploo and JaneShep fading in and out during the "empathetic" part and red-eyed, flaming scars renegade Sheploo and JaneShep fading in and out during the "cold-blooded assassin" scene it'd be more understandable, to me at least.
I believe that was the point of the video, to showcase two different characters - an "empathetic peacekeeper" Femshep and the "cold-blooded assassin" Broshep who both "get the job done, one way or the other".
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I believe that was the point of the video, to showcase two different characters - an "empathetic peacekeeper" Femshep and the "cold-blooded assassin" Broshep who both "get the job done, one way or the other".
They do everything exactly the same except for a few seconds at those two parts, which is why I didn't like it. It threw off the video.
I find it so odd how people whine and rail about "womens!" this and that.
They are going to market to the people who make them the most money. This is their job, to make money. If the new hero is a human, they will do a lot of the marketing as a male. Western RPG characters tend to be mimicked around the people who play them.
For the "sjw" folk that are offended, I say "deal with it." Your obsession with sex and race only makes you loud, not worth listening to.
No, being an annoying fuddyduddy who thinks everything needs to have an agenda of "social justice" lest it be anti-minority and pro-patriarchy undermines most arguments that the SJW movement tries to make. Pandering to minorities and the LGBT community just to make people feel good diminishes the medium.
You really do write some bollocks. An annoying fuddyduddy? Get a grip man. The fact that you think that a debate around a medium that has some issues it needs to face when it comes to how it both treats and portrays people who are not either white, male or straight does not make it 'pandering to minorities'. Here's a news flash for you: women are not a ****** minority.
I came across this little gem a while ago when i got SR2 on a steam sale:
http://uk.ign.com/ar...ks-saints-row-2
Features this little gem (along with the charming photoshoot):
IGN: The only thing the readers of our site like as much as videogames are babes, and now they can get two for the price of one. So how did your role in Saints Row 2 come about?
That's just sad. Really sad. It's the sort of thing a 13 year old would write. And you think 'pandering to minorities' is diminishing the medium. I would suggest that this is far, far worse.
Incidentally, SR3 and SR4 are bloody brilliant examples of how they turned around their use of a female protag.
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I find it so odd how people whine and rail about "womens!" this and that.
They are going to market to the people who make them the most money. This is their job, to make money. If the new hero is a human, they will do a lot of the marketing as a male. Western RPG characters tend to be mimicked around the people who play them.
For the "sjw" folk that are offended, I say "deal with it." Your obsession with sex and race only makes you loud, not worth listening to.
Yes. We know! Those of us who want to see more people of color in future human populations in ME (which makes sense if you consider the amount of people of color on planet earth today) are SJWs and our opinions are not valuable enough to listen to. We are not valuing the opinions of heterosexual white men. You told us already. We got it.
http://forum.bioware...ism/?p=19237757
Now back to the O'Reilly show.
FemShep in ME3 looks much better than femshep in ME1 and 2.
How about they ditch the human thing altogether and just slap a krogan wrestling a varren on the cover? That would certainly catch my eye more than some generic human with gun walking away from an explosion.
Unless there are multiple playable races an alien probably wouldn't make sense on the cover. It has to be the protagonist. Almost all game cover art is of the protagonist. There are a couple exceptions (Far Cry 3 has the villain), but they are very rare.
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