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[Cryos_Feron]

I think the main difference between the GI and the others comes from the increased fire rate (not relevant with Javelin, is it?) and the option to use bonus gear which is NOT the Geth Scanner

[Alfonsedode]

On the Merc, I think someone like Slasher could go sub 20 easily on Jade but it's just such a trivializing kit that I doubt anyone is going to do it

I m not sure it s so easy, maybe because i never really tried. I should, could be fun

Anyway there is only 10/12 submissions for him in the hof, fastest one is 20:30 smtg on giant hazard (and is from a console player !). Most are 30 mins long. I ll check for vids

[Indoctornated]

This topic was giving me a headache. Surprised it got this many replies. Almost certain Sinful Force's alt account made this topic.

 

Anyway. Too many posts to catch up on. So who won second best dps? And spare me the science. Just need a name, setup or whatever sounds simple enough for my 6 year old mind. I'll test it for epeen tomorrow morning. Goodnight.

[Paulomedi]

What's TCP?

[Marksmad is waving goodbye]

What's TCP?

It's a brand of antiseptic you put on your wounds after a tough mission.

 

Or it can stand for Thermal Clip Pack

[Indoctornated]

I think the main difference between the GI and the others comes from the increased fire rate (not relevant with Javelin, is it?) and the option to use bonus gear which is NOT the Geth Scanner

 

It's still relevant. As you reload a tad faster.

[Cryos_Feron]

It's still relevant. As you reload a tad faster.

 

I was thinking that, too

 

But has this ever been tested or confirmed?

[Indoctornated]

^ Yes. Because it doesn't affect the reload time, but the fire rate which cuts into reload time.

[Quarian Master Race]

I was thinking that, too

 

But has this ever been tested or confirmed?

yes, you have to wait for the duration of 1 ROF unit after expending the last round to take place before you can start the reload animation. In the Javelin's case, it is 70 ROF or one cycle roughly every .85 of a second, which is how long you must wait after firing to start the reload. ROF bonuses shorten this duration.

The mechanic is easily noticeable by comparing an extremely low ROF weapon like the Wraith or Krysae to pretty much any automatic. Most of the latter can start reloading almost immediately after you fire, but the Wraith or Krysae take well over a full second.

[Indoctornated]

^ And there's the science behind it. Thanks, QMR.

[Heldarion]

Solos are generally done on Glacier for time. That map favors the Trooper a lot. GI is ridiculous in any situation. Trooper loses a little on more open maps whereas the GI is still just as good. I'm mainly going on my personal opinion.

 

On the Merc, I think someone like Slasher could go sub 20 easily on Jade but it's just such a trivializing kit that I doubt anyone is going to do it

 

Glacier is the superior map for solo Gold&Platinum speedrunning by far. Giant also seems highly abusable on Platinum, as well as White (also on Gold).

 

edit: it doesn't seem like there's anything Glacier-specific that would make GT so much better there.

[TheNightSlasher]

On the Merc, I think someone like Slasher could go sub 20 easily on Jade but it's just such a trivializing kit that I doubt anyone is going to do it

I don't think I can sub-20 jade with the merc. If I were to try a speedrun with that character again, I'd prefer glacier, or may be white.

 

Jade has terrible objectives - even the easy ones like pizzas and escorts suck. Plus, enemies flank more on Jade than glacier or white.

[TheNightSlasher]

edit: it doesn't seem like there's anything Glacier-specific that would make GT so much better there.

I think nuke was talking about extreme cases like Rio, Condor, London.

 

GI will still maintain his efficiency on those maps. Given the openness and vastness of these maps, GT flamer might not have the same efficiency as on smaller maps.

[Heldarion]

I think nuke was talking about extreme cases like Rio, Condor, London.

 

GI will still maintain his efficiency on those maps. Given the openness and vastness of these maps, GT flamer might not have the same efficiency as on smaller maps.

 

Even on those maps GT can still go for a sniper build and dish out solid weapon damage. Granted, it won't be the same, but it won't be bad by any means.

 

And besides, nobody is really trying their darnest to speedrun those maps anyway.

[Loufi]

I m not sure it s so easy, maybe because i never really tried. I should, could be fun

Anyway there is only 10/12 submissions for him in the hof, fastest one is 20:30 smtg on giant hazard (and is from a console player !). Most are 30 mins long. I ll check for vids

I got one at 26,31 :

 

 

I think I could go faster but would have to use different weapons (maybe Acolyte and Reegar, or Talon). Also, I remember that Ferocious Panda had a vid of a failed attempt (wave 11 !  ) that was around 20 minutes. Not sure if the vid is still availabe on You Tube.

 

I don't think Jade is sub-20able with the Talon Merc. You need to get enemies into a funnel with him, near an ammo box and with a good cover (one looking for maximal speed with the talon merc is going to use a power amp, not a cyclonic, and possibly with a no fitness build). All those conditions are difficult to get on Jade. Plus, several pizzas suck on this map.

[Alfonsedode]

I got one at 26,31 :

 

http://www.youtube.c...em-upload_owner

 

I think I could go faster but would have to use different weapons (maybe Acolyte and Reegar, or Talon). Also, I remember that Ferocious Panda had a vid of a failed attempt (wave 11 !  ) that was around 20 minutes. Not sure if the vid is still availabe on You Tube.

 

I don't think Jade is sub-20able with the Talon Merc. You need to get enemies into a funnel with him, near an ammo box and with a good cover (one looking for maximal speed with the talon merc is going to use a power amp, not a cyclonic, and possibly with a no fitness build). All those conditions are difficult to get on Jade. Plus, several pizzas suck on this map.

Is it filmed with a digital camera of low capacity ;p ? I geth giant hazard is choosen cause nade and nice funnel

[Loufi]

Is it filmed with a digital camera of low capacity ;p ? I geth giant hazard is choosen cause nade and nice funnel

For Panda's vid ? Yeah, potato quality. 

 

You're right, Giant Hazard combines the best RHA in the game and an ammo box very close to the player and giving 2 nades. 

[Indoctornated]

I don't think I can sub-20 jade with the merc. If I were to try a speedrun with that character again, I'd prefer glacier, or may be white.

 

Jade has terrible objectives - even the easy ones like pizzas and escorts suck. Plus, enemies flank more on Jade than glacier or white.

 

Yes. Jade is a very well designed map.

[Caineghis2500]

GI: Javelin is the first
AIU: Claymore comes in close second