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[The NightMan Cometh]

Got Cerberus problems?   Here...try my "Better Call Saul" Slayer build :  http://kalence.drupa...!24N52364!A0.EG   On-Host only please.  This turns Cerberus into a joke. Only thing to remember is to do a back-dash after charging the Atlas. Phantoms die in about 2 seconds..same with Goonz.

[MaxCrushmore]

^ I like the power amp more than the cyclonic on him, and radius evo in PD, other than that I switch between that build and one with 3 in fitness and 5 in passive to add BS (which I almost never use)

[NuclearTech76]

I like Cerberus. Especially when I'm playing a Fury.

 

Until those ****** tourettes show up.

I hate when those show up as well, I just start spraying profanities at random people over the mic. A common ecksbawks ailment. 

[Indoctornated]

Meh, your problem is in the builds you're trying to run and how you're going about them. Phasic rounds for one thing is just IDK crazy to me if you're playing "close quarters" the enemy will be primed with AF anyways there so I don't understand the phasic over warp rounds which will do more damage versus everything except shields. 

 

The other build with the power mod is kind of IDK crazy as well. I don't understand the purpose there unless you're going to throw once then purge AF because the field explosion is the only thing that's going to get serious benefit from the power mod on the weapon. Melee build on the fury is harder than balls unless you play it several times in a row and get the rhythm of it and it's still one of the harder melee kits in the game, I recommend a Falcon with Cryo rounds or Venom with Cryo if you want to play melee with her and play with friends because you're going to get rekt for the first few games. Completely suboptimal but fun build though. 

 

 

No. I already admitted to a problem with the build. Again, I'm talking about a style of play here.

 

Phasic rounds don't matter, why I even use explosive if I have more of them & without weapon amps, because weapons don't matter that much when you can cause AOE biotic detonations every one second and are practicing a different play style that's also very fun. Been playing the weapons way, way too long. Change is good.

 

Power Mods is for AF. Since you're always within AF range, it helps kill things faster.

 

Melee Fury isn't that hard. LoneEnforcer seen me use it for the first time awhile back and I did well. Basically it's not so much about melee dmg then getting into a spawn with some melee dmg & stagger > boitic detonations extravaganza. Her heavy melee seems to have nice area dmg/stagger too. I just don't remember so well because it's been awhile and barely played this setup. Just remember it being easier then I thought it would. Next respec card I'm going to try her melee again... only problem is this build kinda requires Cyclonic mods for more recklessness. Something I don't have much of on PS3.

 

Also what weapon/consumables/mods you want to use is really up to you as long as you have 1 minute throw cooldown & all bottom AF evolutions. And play with a heavy AF>Throw focus instead of the weapon. Actually, forget you even have a weapon. I do, except when fighting Cerberus.

 

And if anyone wants to start this kit with training wheels stagger weapons, that's fine too. As this build and play style is more for those that have many hours and experience in this game. Otherwise why would you want to play reckless? For me it's perfect because it introduces a new style of play and to work of figuring it out more.

 

And yes, fun the meaning behind all my builds and play styles. If I'm not having fun & trying new things, it's back to retirement again. And we have to many in retirement as is.

[Bud Halen]

^ I like the power amp more than the cyclonic on him, and radius evo in PD, other than that I switch between that build and one with 3 in fitness and 5 in passive to add BS (which I almost never use)

 

I'm a 66455 guy, myself.  Don't feel I need to max fitness/passives, and 4 ranks into BS comes in handy for combos, etc..

[Pint]

I hate when those show up as well, I just start spraying profanities at random people over the mic. A common ecksbawks ailment. 

 

don't think you can spray your profanities faster than they can spray bullets though.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Sinful, you're back to arguing nonsense again. Take a break from the forum, play a few games and then -think-.

[The NightMan Cometh]

^ I like the power amp more than the cyclonic on him, and radius evo in PD, other than that I switch between that build and one with 3 in fitness and 5 in passive to add BS (which I almost never use)

I have tried both power amps and cyclonics  ,,The reason why the cyclonic is I like taking hits from Brutes/ Banshee warp balls/ Ravenger shots/ Atlas rockets and not losing my shields completely ...I dont spec into Slash at all because..I am constantly charging/spamming Phase Disruptor to set off my fire explosions...I really should put those last 6 points from the N7 Slayer passive into the 1st 3 ranks in Slash..cuz with Scanner..wall hax work.. Reason I dont take radius in PD is that when I fire it I am shooting into the ground so say there is a Marauder and 2 cannibals standing pretty close...You are hitting all of them . I only shoot the Disruptor directly into an Atlas or Banshee's/Brutes chest ..since I tend to save them for last..most of the time there is really nothing standing around them for the splash damage to affect.

[Kenny Bania]

Relevant...

 

[The NightMan Cometh]

If you can't Fury against Cerberus.. I can't help you. I love using Throw on a Guardian, not to make his shield flicker so you can get a head shot..But to Arc the throw so it goes around the shield and hits the Guardian directly..Shield stays put..Guardian goes flying.

[xelander]

Cerberus with Geth Scanner are almost tolerable. Cerberus without Geth Scanner are @#%#$^&$*&$^*.

 

 

 

Ceterum censeo Cerberum esse delendum.

[Indoctornated]

Lol. Sinful, it's really hard to say this, given the quality of the entertainment you provide us with, daily, but...

This really has to be the most ridiculous thread you've created here. I mean...

C'mon! XD

 

All I'm asking is folks try Fury without Dark Channel, almost pure AF>Throw CQ focus, and not playing the weapon. I thought you'd get it out of all BSNers, but then I forgot you also like to play the weapon too (lol super heavy Claymore. Nuff said).

 

Once one gets a good enough hang of this build & style, they can spec back into Dark Channel. It's that simple. As folks need to be brought down to basics to see this play style for themselves. As evidenced by Clyde's vid. Great player, who still fell back to the comfort and safety of playing the ranged weapon + ranged Dark Channel more and more as the match progressed.

 

 

And one of the best things about this game is trying new build and new styles. That's why respec cards exist. And why I'm always upset the store don't hand out more to satisfy my need of this. So you all need to put your epeen aside for much greater epeen later on. Though when pugging, it's still very hard to get outscored with this pure power & CQ focus Fury build of mine. Dark Channel into the mix is just free epeen dps on the side when I finally decide to bring it back into the build again. Then I will rule the world! Ah, haha!

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

My Shadow loves Cerberus.

 

 

 

Except when a turret downs her 4 times in a row.

[PresidentVorchaMasterBaits]

Because geth are the most hated faction.

[Pint]

All I'm asking is folks try Fury without Dark Channel, almost pure AF>Throw CQ focus, and not playing the weapon. I thought you'd get it out of all BSNers, but then I forgot you also like to play the weapon too (lol super heavy Claymore. Nuff said).

 

Once one gets a good enough hang of this build & style, they can spec back into Dark Channel. It's that simple. As folks need to be brought down to basics to see this play style for themselves. As evidenced by Clyde's vid. Great player, who still fell back to the comfort and safety of playing the ranged weapon + ranged Dark Channel more and more as the match progressed.

 

 

And one of the best things about this game is trying new build and new styles. That's why respec cards exist. And why I'm always upset the store don't hand out more to satisfy my need of this. So you all need to put your epeen aside for much greater epeen later on. Though when pugging, it's still very hard to get outscored with this pure power & CQ focus Fury build of mine. Dark Channel into the mix is just free epeen dps on the side when I finally decide to bring it back into the build again. Then I will rule the world! Ah, haha!

 

 

so don't use a useful power or good weapons because it's a new playstyle?

I mean, I'm sure limiting yourself is some super exciting prospect but that doesn't mean I'd rather go about my day with mittens on and only walking on my knees.
 

[Indoctornated]

As a terrible fury player myself  I must still decline to agree with you. Here's why.

 

Geth: You can't exactly go bitotic boom boom if you keep getting ***** slapped into stun submission. Sure you can the one's giving you the elbow with AF but there's still the double and triple tap seeker rocket spam, the clusternade plus tazer spam, and the flamethrower that shoots further than it really should cheat. As for primes well have fun getting close enough to do anything without stun spam. Final verdict: Screw you geth cheese

 

Reapers; Wait they're a joke for the fury as the only threats are the generous firing arcs ravagers get, questionable banshee teleports, and the rare wait did that brute just grab me moments. Final Verdict: Meh a few annoyances

 

Collectors; Sure biotics rip them apart but then there's the bee spam, scions given the same spotting generosity as ravagers with a cannon that hits like a freight train, is way too damn accurate, and comes with shield regen delay and stun. Praetorians are a nuisance but manageable so you long as you teleport away from their face and don't hit the bubble of no but I'm sure you already knew that. As for the abombs super fun but hope you get that throw knockback or you can nuke yourself. Final verdict: annoying but doable

 

Cerberus: Atlas can be dealt with by addressing their slow as molasses speed. Teleport behind them hit them with a boom and repeat as they turn to face you. Phantoms: please tell me I misread your post and you aren't complaining about them being OP when you try to Leroy Jenkins charge them- of course they're going to light you up if you do that and it's deserved regardless of the player or kit for doing that. AF+throw+teleport same as the Atlas. For groups try picking them off as sometimes phantoms will break their death squads or just mass AF, fall back, and repeat.

Smoke: Cerberus does blitz so you can wait it out or take advantage of the map to flank around it.

Guardians: See how to deal with phantoms and Atlas. If this takes too long swallow some pride and blast them. I don't think any but the most anal ****** would call carrying one weapon to address the lolshield "playing a weapon"

Nemesis: watch for the red dot and listen for the beep. The red dot betrays the shot location and the beep provides a chance to respond. Save Nemesis for last if they're that big of a deal and play cat and mouse with them.

Turrets: Okay you win this one as it's the one element that depending on placement and number that can be uber bs.

Final verdict: mostly annoying one point of bs

 

So my opinion in summary: Geth>Collector>Cerberus>Reaper for a CQ fury. I know everyone has their own opinions based on experiences but that's why I can't agree with this notion. 

 

That's why you need to be experienced enough and with enough hours under your belt if you want to see the magic of this build sooner enough. If not, bring a stagger weapon. Otherwise, you still have to be experienced enough to spot bad tactical positions and what not. See 4 Phantoms out in the open? Either 1) Rocket them, 2) go find other mooks, 3) see if you can spot them near some RHA, then maybe even jump to another RHA spot as you take them down. But being out in the open of 4 Phantoms is instant death if too much of their aggro is on you.

 

Geth wise, they as the second hardest for this Fury play style. But the only thing that really brings me into stagger heck against them, as with any kit, is really the pugs dragging me into it. Otherwise I know where the stagger danger zones are, and either tread more carefully or avoid these trouble area all together. You should never be in elbow of doom radius, that what radius AF is for + the smoke trails warn you when someone is sneaking up on you too. And if worse comes you worse, OPs pack. - One bad thing about the Geth is AF not staggering them when down to health.

 

Reaper & Collectors are a joke to any biotic kit. They compose mostly of barrier and armour, so just wreak them before the wreak you. Stuff like bee's even help if you have area Throw because there's a very good chance it's next to a Captain for a two biotic explosions at once for more dps. Scions, abuse getting them to melee to stop shooting. Brutes, easiest things to dance around. Banshee's, you did choose speed evolution in AF, right? Ravagers don't shoot when up close, and when at range you're fast enough to sidestep their shots. Yes, make sure that a-bomb gets knocked away from you. Which is usually the case. If not, rage gel. Atlases are more annoying to me then Primes, because they take forever to move out certain key positions and are the ultimate bullet spunges. As focusing on bosses if not exactly Fury style. Plenty of mooks even on Platinum. 

 

 

As for another tip, abuse teleporting through walls. Best get out of jail free card there is. Also use you speed to jump into fresh areas where the agro is focused onto your teammates. Lots more tactics to figure out to turn into second nature. Just have to start somewhere.

[Creator Limbs]

so don't use a useful power or good weapons because it's a new playstyle?

I mean, I'm sure limiting yourself is some super exciting prospect but that doesn't mean I'd rather go about my day with mittens on and only walking on my knees.
 

 

check your privilege, you 4 limbed beast.

[ALTBOULI]

Because Geth exist

[Pint]

check your privilege, you 4 limbed beast.

 

prostheticforce pls
 

[TheTechnoTurian]

I have a hell of a time with my reckless CQC playstyle against Cerberus, when I get in close with that Reegar, the acolyte and my flamer I usually get rekt by that single Atlas that spawns in w9, even though I put full points into fitness and fortification and skip hunter mode for maximum survivability. 

 

Recently though I've changed it up a bit, I've decided to take a more laid back and long-range approach; putting maximum distance between myself and the enemies. 

 

I generally use a build like this, If anyone is getting rekt in CQC versus a comparatively low HP  and easily staggered faction like Cerberus I'd say you need to give this build a try. 

 

My playstyle is basically to stay as far away from anything on the map as possible, I generally tend to cling into hard cover in places like that platform that overlooks Hydra (you've got to kind of jump off the map a bit to get there). Enemies usually won't come within a mile of my location and Goons can't get me. I can shoot through about the whole map. The enemies sometimes spawn too close to ammo boxes, hence the reason for the typhoon; the javelin only has a few shots but the typhoon has a lot of spare ammo for those times when going to an ammo box would put me within 100 meters of something that could potentially kill me 

 

unfortunately sometimes the enemies do close in once my more reckless team mates bleed out, which is where that AF comes into play. If i notice something getting primed by it or see my barrier fill I know instantly that the enemies are too near and I'm in danger. That's the reason for the adrenaline mod, which helps me retreat to safety as swiftly as I can. I take evo 6a for passives for that too, the lighter the weapons are the faster your character can run. 

[Indoctornated]

what playstyles are there on the Furry? There's playing her the optimal way by abusing the AF> throw combo, which can only be done in CQ, and there's tossing DC from miles away like a gimped Huntress. Pretty much everyone who is even half decent with the kit does the former.

I know plenty of players who do what you are describing and annihilate everything with ease, often without getting a single weapon related medal in a full game. Cerberus is generally the faction they cause the most destruction against because nothing is really threatening in close quarters and everything but atlases (slow, stupid, easily avoidable unit that you are supposed to ignore) dies within two seconds. It isn't hard to run up to enemies, look at them and spam the R2 button until they're all dead. L2P

 

I don't think so. Otherwise this topic wouldn't be so misunderstood. Why I see the need to spread it's awareness. And I find it very interesting to the point that it opened my eyes to a very new fresh way of playing & figuring new things out. Especially to a heavy weapons focus player as myself that I was for most of my ME3mp career until new manifest opened my eyes to how more properly play power focus biotics (ie. much faster power recharge rates, less shooting).

 

And again, Cerberus being annoying to this new Fury of mine is based on recent experience. Last match I had, I run into a spawn of 3 Centurian and Dragoon clumped together, only to get the smoke screen hand of denial. Fun. Lucky for OPs pack. It was Rio too, but Fury is fast enough to properly handle such a massive map. Just got to steer clear of turrets and hope my teammates take them out instead. Otherwise I'd have to pull my gun out.

 

 

Firstly, for once I actually agree with you about Cerberus deserving more hate.  I'm firmly in the camp which enjoys decommissioning machines more than trying to get a lock on dancing Nemeses to melee them, amongst all the other Cerberus BS regarding Phantoms, Turrets, Smoke, Goons and Atlas rockets.  The geth are a piece of cake for me by comparison, although that changes depending on using certain characters like the AA or Shadow who absolutely trivialize Cerberus.

 

The thing is, a reckless CQ Fury is one of my favourite characters to use against Cerberus (if I'm hosting), so I'm afraid this sounds like a serious case of L2P.  You have a problem with Guardians?  Seriously?  You do know you can put piercing on your weapon, yeah? 

 

True about the hosting/great connection part when playing a reckless Fury. My day started with a bad connection on PS3 that basically forced me to bail. Hosted the next 3 matches with no problems and full pay day too (really need pay day on PS3).

 

If you too like reckless Fury style, you should practice it together with me every now and the. Add me now (I'm on PS3 today. Check you mail!). You're too hard to find in pug land. Plus you can find out for yourself I know how 2play or not. 

[Olivia Wilde]

Cerberus isn't the most hated because they're the easiest faction off-host

[Creator Limbs]

prostheticforce pls
 

 

quit oppressing me shitlord

[ark]

 *awsome pro tips*

Could you pls record a litle demo video for this, like you did for the cqc justicar acolyte thing?

I have read this post several times now, but I`m worried I don`t understand the subtle finesse that goes into this playstyle.

[Emissary of the Collectors]

All my melee-kits do better against Cerby than any other factions. Geth stunlock you, Collectors explode on you, and Reaper tie you down and ooze on you.... Cerberus just kind of go toe-to-toe with you which im cool with