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[AnakinSkywalker2]

Just heard the new story DLC will not feature our Wardens either. What's up with not bringing these characters back for more? Is it a money voice actor thing or strictly story based? You can always make up some reason for a character or characters to return, Tali and Garrus come to mind (fan service), but that's ok. I would just like a concrete answer why not?

[phyreblade74]

Shrug, I took it to mean our Warden is getting an all-new bright and shiny story all their own.  Not be some minor NPC in my Inquisitor's story.  Because while I adore the heck out of my Lavellan, my Cousland deserves the chance to come riding in on her own steed and steal back the limelight, muahahaha!

 

And I'm fairly sure everyone who's Leliana remained eternally faithful to her Warden lover will be grateful in that shiny bright story, too, lol.

[AresKeith]

Hard to make a DLC for a character who can be dead

[AtreiyaN7]

Because it's the Inquisitor's story, not the Warden's. Given that your Warden sends your Inquisitor a lovely letter explaining what he/she is currently doing (if he/she is alive), it doesn't make sense for the HoF to pop up right now. And frankly, that whole quest to save Wardens from the Calling seems kind of important in and of itself.

 

That being said, the loss of communication with Hawke and Weisshaupt might be a legit reason for some sort of Grey Warden-related DLC that takes place after the main game is over, and maybe then you could hypothetically see the HoF charge back in in some capacity. Otherwise, it doesn't really make any kind of narrative sense to me at this time.

[dgcatanisiri]

The Hero of Ferelden could easily be dead, the Hero of Ferelden didn't have a specific VA, the Hero of Ferelden could be of three different races... There are a LOT of programming reasons for the Hero of Ferelden to never appear again, because they have WAY too many variables to deal with in changing them from a player controlled character to an NPC. Because Inquisition's story is about the INQUISITOR. I mean, give them five years and infinite resources, MAYBE they could put together a DLC that features the Hero of Ferelden. But that would mean they'd STOP work regarding the Inquisitor, the current PC, and, as a result, the current focus for any and all DLC.

 

Hasn't Patrick Weekes said he considered the Hero of Ferelden's story effectively finished? The absolute most we're probably ever going to get on the matter, at the very least in Inquisition, is POSSIBLY, in a future DLC, teaming up with the Awakening Wardens to follow on their leads. But I wouldn't hold your breath on that one, since half of them don't even appear in the Keep, Nathaniel is possibly dead, and so too is the Hero of Ferelden.

[S.W.]

Because the Hero of Ferelden has so many variables that it'd be impossible to write them properly as an NPC. They were originally unvoiced, from an array of different backgrounds, and could make dozens of different choices from which really it's difficult to discern a personality or a set of ethics/politics from.

 

It's not like with Hawke, where your story is designed for you, and you can clearly choose 'diplomatic', 'sarcastic', 'aggressive', etc. and where your choices tend to be either/or decisions - templars or mages, for instance. Less variables, more clearly defined, and thus more feasible to write. And even then, people complained about the portrayal of Hawke in DA:I - myself included - because it was absolutely nothing like the Hawke I'd played through.

 

Besides, Dragon Age has been from the getgo a franchise for which BioWare are trying to explore different heros and different stories in one setting - it's not like ME, where you follow the one hero. I imagine it's a creative deicision as much as a practical one. If the Warden would come back, they'd be a PC, and BW have already stated that's not the case.

 

I don't get why you're complaining though because DA:I was brimming with ex-companions and people we'd seen before - Leliana, Morrigan, Alistair/Loghain, Varric, Cullen etc. And their returns were done, in my opinion, really well - not pointless, one-minute cameos, but concrete roles in the plot which have developed their characters into more interesting people. What's the problem?

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Because new instalment = different protagonist.

Gee, after three games you'd think people would get it by now.

[Master Warder Z_]

Because new instalment = different protagonist.

Gee, after three games you'd think people would get it by now.

Heh oh boom

[Face of Evil]

Seriously, you know they would kill him, right? I know you have this fantasy of the HoF swooping in to beat a horde of darkspawn to death with their bare hands, but that cameo would end with them being a corpse. The Warden would be worm food.

[Nehn]

I have a feeling the only way we're going to see the HoF again is if/when they're succumbing to the taint. We'll see some tragic blight infected person. 

This is based on some quote I read where one of the writers  (Gaider? Weekes?) said something like 'do you really want to see the HoF again, look what happened when Hawke was brought back.' 

 

If someone could find that quote that'd be awesome!

 

I personally would at least like some updates as to how my Warden is doing if I can't get a cameo. I also want to know how exactly my Queen Warden is supposed to produce an heir with King Alistair (If they tried enough it has to be possible!). They should really address Ferelden's heir problem that everyone should have (even if you chose Anora as queen I hear she might be infertile...) 

[Nehn]

Because new instalment = different protagonist.

Gee, after three games you'd think people would get it by now.

 

Okay, seriously there's like 3 legendary people in Thedas so far. Don't you think that's a bit ridiculous?

I wouldn't mind seeing a new story with a repeating protagonist, however, I would require the LI to return as well. I guess it would be similar to ME. Different story same MC wouldn't be bad. 

[Face of Evil]

Okay, seriously there's like 3 legendary people in Thedas so far. Don't you think that's a bit ridiculous?

 

Why? Is it any more ridiculous than the same person saving the world three times in different areas of the continent?

 

(Granted, Hawke didn't save the world, but he did save Kirkwall.)

[Serza]

Yes! Such a good day!

 

I didn't get to use this in a loooong time!

 

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Okay, seriously there's like 3 legendary people in Thedas so far. Don't you think that's a bit ridiculous?
I wouldn't mind seeing a new story with a repeating protagonist, however, I would require the LI to return as well. I guess it would be similar to ME. Different story same MC wouldn't be bad.

Eh, not really. It is a fantasy game after all.

Honestly, I would't have minded if they had Hawke instead of the Inquisitor and cut out all the other races but when it comes to the Warden, considering they can be dead, it would kind of be annoying if they made a new game/DLC that revolved solely around them.

Had enough of that with Leliana.

[Boomshakalakalakaboom]

Heh oh boom

What?

Wishful thinking on my part?

[Broganisity]

Hard to make a DLC for a character who can be dead

I think you're forgetting about the Orlesian Warden-Commander, my good man. Easy swap in for the Hero. You naturally don't get the same experience with the Blight, but the events of Awakening still happen without the Hero of Fereldan.

[AresKeith]

I think you're forgetting about the Orlesian Warden-Commander, my good man. Easy swap in for the Hero. You naturally don't get the same experience with the Blight, but the events of Awakening still happen without the Hero of Fereldan.

 

Yea, but Bioware already knows majority of the fanbase doesn't really care about that one

[Broganisity]

Yea, but Bioware already knows majority of the fanbase doesn't really care about that one

And yet, it remains as a tool to be used to further the events that occurred in that expansion.

[YourFunnyUncle]

Given how excruciating it was to see my canon Hawke say lines that I would never have had her say, I have no wish to see the hero of Ferelden as an NPC, and they're really unlikely to have him/her as protagonist again.

As to a Leliana romance, I've seen that. Don't need to see it again. I'd like more content related to the main characters from this game, please.

[Little Princess Peach]

Hard to make a DLC for a character who can be dead

-coughs- Fake Frenchy warden -coughs-

[Little Princess Peach]

The Hero of Ferelden could easily be dead, the Hero of Ferelden didn't have a specific VA, the Hero of Ferelden could be of three different races... There are a LOT of programming reasons for the Hero of Ferelden to never appear again, because they have WAY too many variables to deal with in changing them from a player controlled character to an NPC. Because Inquisition's story is about the INQUISITOR. I mean, give them five years and infinite resources, MAYBE they could put together a DLC that features the Hero of Ferelden. But that would mean they'd STOP work regarding the Inquisitor, the current PC, and, as a result, the current focus for any and all DLC.

 

Hasn't Patrick Weekes said he considered the Hero of Ferelden's story effectively finished? The absolute most we're probably ever going to get on the matter, at the very least in Inquisition, is POSSIBLY, in a future DLC, teaming up with the Awakening Wardens to follow on their leads. But I wouldn't hold your breath on that one, since half of them don't even appear in the Keep, Nathaniel is possibly dead, and so too is the Hero of Ferelden.

I would love to see the wardens dog come back maybe with the Li and they could give regular updates on the wardens progress with the taint cure quest

[LightningPoodle]

[Sifr]

Because new instalment = different protagonist.

Gee, after three games you'd think people would get it by now.

 

That's because a scary amount of people in our fandom are the Overly Attached Girlfriend when it comes to the Warden...

 

 

(Why did you really  think the Warden has been hiding for the last few games? There's no epic quest for the cure, only witness protection.)

 

[AlexiaRevan]

That's because a scary amount of people in our fandom are the Overly Attached Girlfriend when it comes to the Warden...

 

 

(Why did you really  think the Warden has been hiding for the last few games? There's no epic quest for the cure, only witness protection.)

 

XD That remind me of my Hawke..thats the face I use going Blood Mage and freeing every loonie I find 

[Illyria]

I promised myself I wouldn't get involved with one of these threads but, oh well...

 

Because:

 

1) This is the Inquisitor's game.  Dragon Age 2 was Hawke's game, and Dragon Age Origins was the Warden's.  Want more Warden?  Go and play DAO.

 

2) The Hero of Ferelden could be dead.  That would be a very dull DLC or would involve using the Warden Commander instead, since there's no option in the Keep to let us import the Warden Commander we're probably never going to see them again.

 

3) The Warden is very much a blank slate character.  There's no way of tracking what sort of personality they had, their voice or anything about them.  It was annoying enough for some getting OOC stuff in the short letter they wrote.  For one of my Wardens (atheist mage) mentioning Andraste and the faith in her letter was completely OOC, but it happened because she'd romanced Leliana.

 

4) 'No previous companions'?  What's Varric, then?  Or Morrigan?  Or Leliana?  True, only one of them joins the party but they're all important members of the Inquisition.  This is not Mass Effect (and even if it was this is not the final game of the serise).  We're not going to get a Citadel-style DLC with every companion from every game.  The player might have a reason to care, but the PC wouldn't.

 

5) There's no Leliana romance because i) Leliana is in a relationship with her true love

                                                                ii) She lost her true love ten years ago and has no interest in finding another (that happens.  Not everyone with a dead wife is willing to leap into the protag's bed)

                                                                 iii) She 's at a point in her life where she is not intested in romance at all.  Her mentor/best friend is dead, her faith is shaken, she's coming to some very unpleasant realisations about the similarities of Justina and Marjolaine, and the world is falling apart.  She's not the same woman she was 10 years ago.

                                                                iv) She's already been a romance option.  Bioware aren't going to spend the money on making a character re-romanceable.  There's nothing new in that story to tell.  It would be taking budget and time away from new characters with new stories to enjoy.

 

EDIT:  Look at the reaction that Hawke had when they were brought back.  Anti-blood magic with no reference to a friendship with Merrill (fine for my Hawke, not fine for many, many others), very little sarcasm from purple!Hawke (which caused me to think that the Keep had imported her with the wrong personality), leaving their LI behind which makes sense for no-one except Anders, being in an open relationship with Bela.  I could keep listing all the stuff people complained about but I'd be here all day.