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[Captain Wiseass]

I must have missed the Saturday morning cartoons with people's mothers getting carved up by serial killers. Was that on Get-Along Gang? Because I never watched that one.

[Texhnolyze101]

You do realize that the only one who mentioned The Witcher was you.

 

Actually MarchWaltz mention TW but in a more insulting manner because "I canz make mah ownz characturz derp".

[Texhnolyze101]

I must have missed the Saturday morning cartoons with people's mothers getting carved up by serial killers. Was that on Get-Along Gang? Because I never watched that one.

That one questline is the only time DA has ever had something that didn't feel really cartoonish and the way it was handled.

[AllThatJazz]

Actually MarchWaltz mention TW but in a more insulting manner because "I canz make mah ownz characturz derp".

Why is it so bothersome that some people prefer character creation to preset protagonist? Yeah sure, some people have that as their reason to dislike Witcher. So what? Different people have different priorities. And there are plenty on this forum and elsewhere using aspects of Dragon Age they personally dislike as a reason to rip into the games, even to the point of saying they shouldn't exist anymore, because 'now we have the Witcher', as though the one precludes the other.

OT the Fade thing could be interesting, having to play as .. Er, whoever had that thing happen to them ...

[Lazarillo]

I don't see any reason for this rumor to have any basis in fact, but approached solely as a "what if" scenario, what I would like to see if they were to change the spotlight is the chance to play out some part of relevant history.  Maybe make it a nested story like DA2 was, where the Inquisitor is "investigating" some tome of history relevant to the Elder One or the elves, that we get a chance to play through (or heck, just use Breach-y time magic to have two on-going plots that interact with each other at two different time periods, because Breach-y time magic).  Either way, a chance to shed some light on actual events, for once.

[Felya87]

Doesn't change the fact that TW2 and 3 make me feel certain things compared to the saturday moring cartoonish-ness level of DA:I and 2.

 

Your opinion. And if TW is "oh, so much better", why are you here? go play TW. If people are here, is because they like DA. If you don't stop wasting time stayng in a forum where a lot of people obviously may prefer much more DAI with character personalization and choice of roleplay vs adventure game with RPG elements.

[Shechinah]

Doesn't change the fact that TW2 and 3 make me feel certain things compared to the saturday moring cartoonish-ness level of DA:I and 2.

 

I've started to wonder if I should consider asking everyone who posts this comparison to elaborate in which sort of saturday morning cartoon they mean and if it is a specific one they have in mind since cartoons are of a huge variety with different themes and elements to them.

 

As an example; Star Wars: The Clone Wars had themes of war and the side the protagonists were on had no qualms about using an cloned army of essentially indoctrinated slaves who were made to be disposable. It featured quite often and even had a close-up of a dead body's face at least once. Some of the deaths that happened were children's. Star Wars: Rebels was lighter in comparison but has dark tones as well with the lastest episode featuring someone commiting suicide and a previous episode that two characters being executed with no attempts made to hide that fact from younger viewers beyond cutting to a reaction shot.

 

This is not a recent thing either since Exosquad, a cartoon show from '93, featured war between humanity and Neosapiens, the latter a race that humanity had created to function basically as work slaves. It featured starvation with on-screen appearances of bony adults and children, deaths and so forth.

 

TL:DR - There is a habit that has persisted to this day of generalising animated series without taking into consideration the sheer variety there is of them.

 

I believe it might be prudent that when people attempt to draw a comparison between morning cartoons and Dragon Age: Inquisition that they also provide details or examples to give credence to this comparison because otherwise, other people are perhaps inclined to believe it is this habit of generalising that is in play and their comparison rings hollow as a result.   
 

[thats1evildude]

That one questline is the only time DA has ever had something that didn't feel really cartoonish and the way it was handled.

What about the other questline where a mentally ill man was killing elves because he believed that demons were forcing him too? That was very well-done, even more so than the Quentin storyline.

[Texhnolyze101]

What about the other questline where a mentally ill man was killing elves because he believed that demons were forcing him too? That was very well-done, even more so than the Quentin storyline.

 

I completely forgot about that one, well make that two questlines that didn't feel cartoonish.

[KaiserShep]

Creating your own character is overrated and I'm getting sick and tired of fools using it as a defence against The Witcher which in my opinion is a much better series then DA and the writing puts DA2 and 3 to shame.

 

Yeah, well, get used to it. Character creation ain't going away. Nor should it. 

[Texhnolyze101]

Yeah, well, get used to it. Character creation ain't going away. Nor should it. 

 

I don't want it to go anyware I'm just saying its overrated.

[dreamgazer]

I completely forgot about that one, well make that two questlines that didn't feel cartoonish.

LOL.

Numerous questlines later ...

[Texhnolyze101]

LOL.

Numerous questlines later ...

 

You disagree?

[TheChris92]

I don't care for playing pre-defined characters so I'm not really big on this.

[dreamgazer]

You disagree?

I think there's a much more diverse mix of "cartoonish" and "non-cartoonish" quests than you're suggesting, yes.

[Texhnolyze101]

I think there's a much more diverse mix of "cartoonish" and "non-cartoonish" quests than you're suggesting, yes.

 

Maybe so, but it couldn't hurt if Bioware tried to make more quest similar to the bloody baron quest or the ladies of the woods quest.

[AllThatJazz]

Maybe so, but it couldn't hurt if Bioware tried to make more quest similar to the bloody baron quest or the ladies of the woods quest.

Why? Don't get me wrong those were very good, setting appropriate quests. But not everything has to be shades of grimdark. I enjoyed Here lies the abyss, in your heart shall burn and in hushed whispers/champions of the just.

[Shechinah]

*snip*

 

Perhaps if you kindly would, you could elaborate with some examples of what you consider a "saturday morning cartoonish-mess"?
 

[Captain Wiseass]

What about the other questline where a mentally ill man was killing elves because he believed that demons were forcing him too? That was very well-done, even more so than the Quentin storyline.

Or the one where a small child was possessed by a demon and the conventional, societally accepted option was to kill him?

 

Or the one where, at the end, the hero was asked to decide whether a whole tower full of people who had just survived an attempted rebellion should be slaughtered like pigs?

 

Or the one where the hero could either die to save the world, have their best friend die to save the world, recruit an enemy so they could die to save the world, or have somebody knock up a witch so the fetus could absorb a monster's soul and that way nobody had to die saving the world?

 

And then there's the one where, once again, the hero has to decide between keeping the social order and the wholesale slaughter of innocents. Or the one where a woman gives her entire family and household staff over to monsters to be either killed and eaten or transformed into grotesque, ticklike monster factories, and maybe you end up siding with her so she can boil people alive in Iron Maidens to turn them into indestructible statues. Ooh, that reminds me of the one where your brother kills your other brother and frames you for it! Unless you really did kill the brother yourself!

 

Hey, don't forget the one that STARTS with rape and murder, continues into a curse that lasts centuries, and maybe ends in genocide!

 

Such whimsical spirits, those Bioware writers.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Honestly the only person I'd be interested in playing other than my Inquisitor would be Hawke. So I'm not sure I like this news.

[Shechinah]

Hey, don't forget the one that STARTS with rape and murder, continues into a curse that lasts centuries, and maybe ends in genocide!

You missed the "pregnancy-by-rape resulting in mother-unborn-child suicide" bit!

 

[Captain Wiseass]

You missed the "pregnancy-by-rape resulting in mother-unborn-child suicide" bit!

 

I am ashamed of myself.

[Texhnolyze101]

Why? Don't get me wrong those were very good, setting appropriate quests. But not everything has to be shades of grimdark. I enjoyed Here lies the abyss, in your heart shall burn and in hushed whispers/champions of the just.

 

My personal reason is because I enjoy quest like that more then the ones like Here lies the abyss  or in hushed whispers because I actually feel sorry for all parties involed in the bloody baron questline, but in quest like Champions of the just and In your heart shall burn I just simply do not care about whats happening to the people in those quest because they don't give me a reason to.

[BioFan (Official)]

FALSE ALARM! 

 

 

BioFan ‏@BioFanOfficial 

Hey @lucyjamesgames, can you elaborate more on what you meant by "we may not necessarily be playing as the Inquisitor" in regards to DLC?

 

Lucy James ‏@lucyjamesgames

@BioFanOfficial I genuinely know nothing, just going off this: 

http://www.vinerepor...pearing/733.htm

 

Lucy James ‏@lucyjamesgames  

@BioFanOfficial I done mixed up Inquisitor and Grey Warden sorry for any confusion!