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[KocicaK]

I have been thinking about mixing races. could anyone please tell me what are the results of mixed race parents?

 

First, we have elven mother and a human, which gives us a human.(Alistair)

Then we know, that it works also the another way around(also dwarf), we have a human again (Morrigan´s and Warden´s son Kieran)

there is Also Sandal. we know that he has one dwarven parent and he is a dwarf, but he has some non dwarf abilities.

 

So it seems that humans are dominant race and with at least one human parent the child will be aslo human.(does it mean that Sandal´s another parent was an elf? even mage?)

 

But we don´t know what happens when one of the parents is Qunari(at least I don´t know)

For human and Qunari, will it be a human? or not?

 

and what another combinations like Qunari - elf, elf - dwarf, qunari - dwarf, ...?

 

What do you know about this? plese tell me everything. about appearance, what race are the children considered and also what abilities they have from what parent.(one day I want to see dwarven mage - which is unlikely, very unlikely)

 

[KocicaK]

so, nobody knows anything? there are no information on this? ..............ok then. but I hoped to learn something

[X Equestris]

The Qunari don't mix races, and there likely aren't enough Tal-Vashoth for much interracial mixing to go on. So we don't know if it's possible or not.

Human-dwarf pairings result in half-dwarves, taller than dwarves but shorter than humans. Nothing is really known about any special abilities. Elf-dwarf pairings result in what is basically a dwarf, just like how elf-human pairings produce human children.

[KocicaK]

The Qunari don't mix races, and there likely aren't enough Tal-Vashoth for much interracial mixing to go on. So we don't know if it's possible or not.

Human-dwarf pairings result in half-dwarves, taller than dwarves but shorter than humans. Nothing is really known about any special abilities. Elf-dwarf pairings result in what is basically a dwarf, just like how elf-human pairings produce human children.

Thank you for this.

 

And what about dwarven Warden and Morrigan? Will be Kieran, having dwarven father, something between human and dwarf when he grow up? and is it correct for him to look like normal human during Inquisition?

[X Equestris]

Thank you for this.
 
And what about dwarven Warden and Morrigan? Will be Kieran, having dwarven father, something between human and dwarf when he grow up? and is it correct for him to look like normal human during Inquisition?

Kieran's model appears the same no matter what, so it's hard to say right now. I would think he might, but we simply don't have enough info. We've never seen dwarf-human hybrids before, so whether they resemble a human's build or a dwarf's is up in the air.

[andy6915]

Thank you for this.

 

And what about dwarven Warden and Morrigan? Will be Kieran, having dwarven father, something between human and dwarf when he grow up? and is it correct for him to look like normal human during Inquisition?

 

He'll probably be like me. Seriously. I'm a male, fully grown and have been for several years... But I'm only about 5 feet tall exactly, maybe 5'1. I have normal proportions (no dwarfism or midget anything), but I am very short in a country where the average height is over 6 feet tall for my sex and age. I think Kieran will have my build when he's an adult, normal human proportions but quite a lot shorter than just about anyone else he'll meet who's human.

 

Summed up: normal proportions for a human, but well below the average height. He'll probably only grow another 7 inches to a foot, tops.

[RatusMachina]

But in the second DA game, there was this guy Feynriel, have you forgotten about him? He is a human-elf mix and looks like it, some human and some elven features, I think that with Kieran, Bioware was just too lazy to implement the features of the Warden's race, so they just made him human by default. They don't have this aspect thought out very well, considering you literally only meet one hybrid in the whole franchise, which surely is unrealistic. Or maybe, different races trying to conceive a child have a lower birth rate? Who knows... Or maybe like with horses and donkeys, their offspring aka mules are sterile and that's why we don't see any elven-dwarven-qunari mix persons unfortunately. 

[Pugnator]

http://forum.bioware...ration-hybrids/

Here all the information you need. Anyway Human + dwarf should look like an half dwarf but Morrigan's son has always the same skin, I think it's because Bioware employees was lazy. Anyway we know then half dwarf should be taller then dwarf and shorter then human.

[X Equestris]

But in the second DA game, there was this guy Feynriel, have you forgotten about him? He is a human-elf mix and looks like it, some human and some elven features, I think that with Kieran, Bioware was just too lazy to implement the features of the Warden's race, so they just made him human by default. They don't have this aspect thought out very well, considering you literally only meet one hybrid in the whole franchise, which surely is unrealistic. Or maybe, different races trying to conceive a child have a lower birth rate? Who knows... Or maybe like with horses and donkeys, their offspring aka mules are sterile and that's why we don't see any elven-dwarven-qunari mix persons unfortunately.

Actually, you meet another elf-human hybrid: Alistair. You don't know that at the time, though. Michel is also a hybrid, but he never talks about it in the short time the Inquisitor speaks to him.

[Youknow]

There's also the conversation with Vivienne and Iron Bull. Iron Bull comments that Vivienne might be part Qunari because she's so tall-- of course Vivi says it's because of her heels, but the fact that this was even a conversation means that it should be possible. 

 

I sort of remember a codex entry on this in the first one as well. 

[Fylimar]

Did I miss something? Alistairs mother was elven? How comes, that his half sister Goldanna (from his mothers side) is human?

 

The only half elf, I remember, is Feynriel. And he has the typical half elf features: a little more slim, pointy ears, but not so pronounced as a full elf, but otherwise, he looks pretty much human. I think  if Alistair's mother would have been a half elf, we shoulde see some elven features on him. In the DA Wiki, Goldanna is describes as human btw.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Did I miss something? Alistairs mother was elven? How comes, that his half sister Goldanna (from his mothers side) is human?

Because she is not actually his half sister.

[Andraste_Reborn]

We've met at least four people with one human parent and one elf parent across the course of the series - Alistair, Michel de Chevin and Feynriel as already mentioned, plus Slim Couldry from Origins. Feynriel is the only one that looks remotely 'elfy'.

[Aeratus]

We've met at least four people with one human parent and one elf parent across the course of the series - Alistair, Michel de Chevin and Feynriel as already mentioned, plus Slim Couldry from Origins. Feynriel is the only one that looks remotely 'elfy'.

 

They all either have red or blonde hair. This could be coincidental, but we have not seen an elf-blooded human with dark hair.  

[Illegitimus]

They all either have red or blonde hair. This could be coincidental, but we have not seen an elf-blooded human with dark hair.  

 

Save possibly Kieran.   

[Tidus]

Save possibly Kieran.   

 

In  90% of my games Kieran has a Elf father.. A child born of a elf and human will lose its Elven features.. This is why marriages between a elf and human is frown upon.

 

You get to see Alistair's real Mother in DA:I.

[ComedicSociopathy]

No Half-Elves or Half-Dwarves in this universe. 

[Evil Asch]

We've met at least four people with one human parent and one elf parent across the course of the series - Alistair, Michel de Chevin and Feynriel as already mentioned, plus Slim Couldry from Origins. Feynriel is the only one that looks remotely 'elfy'.

 

Maybe Feynriel is a genetic 'sport', in addition to actually looking fairly elfy he's also a Dreamer. Which are basically so rare as to be de facto extinct.

Modifié par Evil Asch, 14 décembre 2015 - 09:33 .

[Patchwork]

Or his father has an elven parent too so Feynriel is 3/4 elven so the elf part is more noticeable. 

[vertigomez]

No Half-Elves or Half-Dwarves in this universe.

No half-elves (as such), but there are half-dwarves.

We just haven't seen one, save possibly Kieran if the Warden was a dwarf.

[MKDAWUSS]

Chances are we'll never see Kieran again so he might be a moot point.

[Catilina]

No Half-Elves or Half-Dwarves in this universe. 

Feynriel?

[Evil Asch]

No half-elves (as such), but there are half-dwarves.

 

Uhm, yeah we do. Several.

[Ghost Gal]

Thank you for this.

 

And what about dwarven Warden and Morrigan? Will be Kieran, having dwarven father, something between human and dwarf when he grow up? and is it correct for him to look like normal human during Inquisition?

 

Kieran looks the same no matter what. The characters' comments about him will just differ depending on who the father is (Male Warden, Alistair, or Loghain), and possibly how he was conceived (Dark Ritual, or Male Warden and Morrigan's pre-DR romance).

 

I really hate making this argument, but realistically I don't think the devs wanted to put too much effort into Kieran since only a percentage of players even romanced Morrigan / agreed to the Dark Ritual, and of those less than 20% of DAO players even played non-humans, and of those less than 5% of DAO players played dwarves. Of those 5% of dwarven players, how many realistically romanced Morrigan and/or agreed to the Dark Ritual? If only a percentage of a percentage of players had a dwarf/human hybrid baby with Morrigan, I don't think the devs would consider it... economic to design a whole new half-dwarf child body model for Kieran.

 

I guess you could headcanon that if your Dwarven Warden performed the Dark Ritual with Morrigan, part of the magic of the ritual made it so the child looked more human like his mother. (It's "canon" that Alistair never has a child outside the DR--if you chose to have him do it--and the only reason he successfully got Morrigan pregnant there was the magical nature of the ritual.) If you didn't perform the Dark Ritual but Morrigan had Kieran anyway (thus he's a normal boy), you can headcanon that he's just tall for a half-dwarf and/or maybe this is as tall as he's gonna get.

 

(What's funny though is that if he's a normal boy and meets a Dwarven Inquisitor, if you choose the humorous option, "Darn, and here I was trying to look taller!" he says rather sadly, "I know how you feel." If his father is a dwarf and thus he's a dwarf hybrid, it makes that line that much funnier.)

[darlarosa]

It's not Dungeons and Dragons OR Evernight.

 

Half-Elves are just Elf-blooded and from what I can read they don't usually have abilities. They may be more magic sensitive, but there is no conclusive mention of this in lore.

I remember reading that a dwarf-human hybrid wasn't ever discussed...and unless I'm getting my lore confused the only example may be Kieran. You have to consider that dwarves are very different from humans and may not come from the same origin. For instance Dwarves do not dream and cannot perform magic. I'd honestly suspect that there, and correct me if I'm wrong, zero hybrids because it's no biologically possible...and I'd suspect most dwarves even on the surface would preferably kill the dwarven mother, the half-dward child, or abandon the human mother in most cases.

 

Kieran has a default appearence regardless, which is probably because of engine limitations and the fact that you don't actually import your origins game. Has nothing to do with Dev's being lazy. That's a tall order for a minor point that may not be brought up.